Herc vs Bosses
slimmaster
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I was wondering what lvl a herc has to be to take on bosses.
I am mainly talking about quest bosses but also TT ones.
A list of all the quest bosses and the herc lvl needed would be nice. Im looking to help out my fellow faction people.
Thanks
I am mainly talking about quest bosses but also TT ones.
A list of all the quest bosses and the herc lvl needed would be nice. Im looking to help out my fellow faction people.
Thanks
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slimmaster wrote: »I was wondering what lvl a herc has to be to take on bosses.
I am mainly talking about quest bosses but also TT ones.
A list of all the quest bosses and the herc lvl needed would be nice. Im looking to help out my fellow faction people.
Thanks
It's not dependant on the Herc's level really...it's your level. Herc will always ( or should be ) your level. Then it depends on how high your pet heal is. There are certain Bosses that are impossible ( at 80th at least ) even with a second Veno helping to heal.
All that to say it's very subjective.
A better question to ask is when can a Veno solo the TT's, which ones, and at about what level. That will give you a better idea of what is possible.Mark 12:29-37
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slimmaster wrote: »I was wondering what lvl a herc has to be to take on bosses.
I am mainly talking about quest bosses but also TT ones.
A list of all the quest bosses and the herc lvl needed would be nice. Im looking to help out my fellow faction people.
Thanks
Just a list of what I can remember.
@70
You can do all quest bosses expected eyes and kong.
you can tank all bosses in TT1-1
@75
you can tank kong.
you can tank 3 of 5 bosses in TT1-2
@80
you can tank all bosses in TT1-2, 3 of 5 in TT1-3 and 4 of 5 in TT2-1
@85
you can tank 4 of 6 in TT2-2
I think you may need to wait until 90+ to tank drum in 1-3 and Ape in 2-2. I do not know if wurlord in 2-2/2-3 and ape in 2-3 can ever be tanked by a herc.0 -
Herc is pretty monstrous even in low levels too, I has pics of him doing quillhog @ 40, and silverfrost @ 68. O: Just make sure you know your limitations lol... i wanna get mine to tank a wb sometime -.-;0
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Thanks for all the replies i tested quillhog yesterday and the herc did well eventhough i dont have lvl 63 heal yet and he was 56.
I think when i get lvl 63 and the herc is 60 i will go test some more.0 -
At least one boss in FB it is unable to tank at 94 : Cennequus (FB69)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh0 -
Just a list of what I can remember.
@70
You can do all quest bosses expected eyes and kong.
you can tank all bosses in TT1-1
@75
you can tank kong.
you can tank 3 of 5 bosses in TT1-2
@80
you can tank all bosses in TT1-2, 3 of 5 in TT1-3 and 4 of 5 in TT2-1
@85
you can tank 4 of 6 in TT2-2
I think you may need to wait until 90+ to tank drum in 1-3 and Ape in 2-2. I do not know if wurlord in 2-2/2-3 and ape in 2-3 can ever be tanked by a herc.
I've seen ape in 2-3 done by an 8x herc, you need 2 other venos there with maxed purge who know what they're doing.
Wurlord is pretty much not doable by a herc, you can do it with 3 venos if their heal timing is perfect, but if it gets one-shot you're in trouble.
Pretty much all of 3-1 is cake, though you need DD help for one boss.
BTW, found out yesterday mantavip is easy with a herc, who woulda known.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
wow how do you do mantavip?0
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Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »I've seen ape in 2-3 done by an 8x herc, you need 2 other venos there with maxed purge who know what they're doing.
Wurlord is pretty much not doable by a herc, you can do it with 3 venos if their heal timing is perfect, but if it gets one-shot you're in trouble.
Pretty much all of 3-1 is cake, though you need DD help for one boss.
BTW, found out yesterday mantavip is easy with a herc, who woulda known.
I want to know how to do mantivip please.0 -
Temptress_Fi - Heavens Tear wrote: »wow how do you do mantavip?
Lure him to one of the islands, the herc can stand on shore and tank him.
Cosmo 2-2 is able to be solo healed at 83 I have recently discovered. There's probably a decent amount of luck in not getting back to back max hits, but with a bit of -% channeling from gear and RB you can heal between every swing and keep him up.0 -
Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »Lure him to one of the islands, the herc can stand on shore and tank him.
Any tips on how to lure him? And is any island preferable? He loses aggro so easily when lured. Might ask one of the venos in my guild for help.0 -
Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »Lure him to one of the islands, the herc can stand on shore and tank him.
Cosmo 2-2 is able to be solo healed at 83 I have recently discovered. There's probably a decent amount of luck in not getting back to back max hits, but with a bit of -% channeling from gear and RB you can heal between every swing and keep him up.
Yes cosmo is 2-2 can be tanked by a herc, but at least at my level, I still can not solo him. I have -15% channeling gears, comso killed my herc twice even I have another level 81 (LA) veno help me heal the pet when I was at level 84. But a level 84 herc with 3 venos should do it. I guess you were really lucky.0 -
Yes cosmo is 2-2 can be tanked by a herc, but at least at my level, I still can not solo him. I have -15% channeling gears, comso killed my herc twice even I have another level 81 (LA) veno help me heal the pet when I was at level 84. But a level 84 herc with 3 venos should do it. I guess you were really lucky.
If you're good, you can watch for this starting to happen and manually insert a small pause in your heals to prevent it. The goal is for both of you to alternate heals - so one veno's heal lands right in the middle of the other veno's cast. The single veno with lots of channeling is easier because once you get enough channeling, you can just hold down the heal button. No need to pay attention to what's going on.0 -
My herc has tanked cosmo in 2-2. We had no barb so I tanked the entire run. Much of the time I was just using my fox debuffs like amp and purge while another veno spammed pet heal, I just needed to toss in a few heals from time to time.Main characters
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Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »My herc has tanked cosmo in 2-2. We had no barb so I tanked the entire run. Much of the time I was just using my fox debuffs like amp and purge while another veno spammed pet heal, I just needed to toss in a few heals from time to time.
If the veno who owns the pet spam heals it, and starts falling behind on heals, she has to tell the other veno that she needs help healing.
If the veno who owns the pet is attacking while the other veno is spam healing, the owner can constantly monitor the pet's hp status and toss in an extra heal as needed. No need to even change target from the mob.0 -
Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »Lure him to one of the islands, the herc can stand on shore and tank him. QUOTE]
What lvl should the Herc/veno be to try this & be sucessful b:question?"I'm bi-curious! And even that's okay, becase if I'm bi-curious and I'm somehow made from God, then I figure God might be a little bi-curious himself!" Words of wisdom from South Park. Letting everyone know its okay to be 'A Little Bi-Curious' b:mischievous
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Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »The problem with having 2 venos healing on very tough bosses is that unless you have the same channeling and network lag, the timing of your heals will eventually synchronize. When that happens, both your heals land simultaneously (probably wasting one), then the boss gets 2 free hits in before either of your next heals finish. This can also happen with 3 venos healing, but is rarer (I'd explain it more, but it gets into all sorts of math about rational and irrational numbers).
If you're good, you can watch for this starting to happen and manually insert a small pause in your heals to prevent it. The goal is for both of you to alternate heals - so one veno's heal lands right in the middle of the other veno's cast. The single veno with lots of channeling is easier because once you get enough channeling, you can just hold down the heal button. No need to pay attention to what's going on.
It is difficult you adjust timing because of graphical lag and network lag. animation dose not usually sync with the heal applied to the pet. so there is no guarantee the adjustment will work, I personally think it is best to have two venos with a big channeling gap to heal pet, like 1 veno with -30% another veno with no channeling. but no mater what there still a chance heal from both venos will land on pet together.0 -
Just a list of what I can remember.
@70
You can do all quest bosses expected eyes and kong.
you can tank all bosses in TT1-1
@75
you can tank kong.
you can tank 3 of 5 bosses in TT1-2
@80
you can tank all bosses in TT1-2, 3 of 5 in TT1-3 and 4 of 5 in TT2-1
@85
you can tank 4 of 6 in TT2-2
I think you may need to wait until 90+ to tank drum in 1-3 and Ape in 2-2. I do not know if wurlord in 2-2/2-3 and ape in 2-3 can ever be tanked by a herc.
This list is pretty good. But I'd like to add that at level 70, I had no trouble tanking all of the bosses in TT1-2 except Soul and Drummer.0 -
Oh btw i was about to do all of TT 1-1 including the drummer at lvl 64 with the help of a lvl 58 veno
Can someone plz explain to me how you can do mantavip? i tried the other day at 2 different islands with no luck he just doesnt get close enough.0 -
all i know is that my brother was tanking DoD another day after i killed mantavip for him
we lured DoD on island and herc got him easly
and he was lvl 60 onlyb:victory0 -
ill go record it for you kiddies0
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yeah if you would that would be great and maybe DoD if you could plz0
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