Make a place to Level the Phoenix
Arielan - Heavens Tear
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We have the cube for all the Land pets, but could we get somewhere to level the phoenix? I have just gotten my phoenix at lvl 80, and would really like to get something like room 4 in the cube please!! Hope to hear what all you guys have to say about this. b:laugh
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Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »We have the cube for all the Land pets, but could we get somewhere to level the phoenix? I have just gotten my phoenix at lvl 80, and would really like to get something like room 4 in the cube please!! Hope to hear what all you guys have to say about this. b:laugh
There are lots of area to level your phoenix. You can start at noob area around each major town, than move along chasing mobs that are same level as your pet or a little higher.
So I am sure we do not need an area specialy made for phoenix leveling.Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.0 -
IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »There are lots of area to level your phoenix. You can start at noob area around each major town, than move along chasing mobs that are same level as your pet or a little higher.
So I am sure we do not need an area specialy made for phoenix leveling.
Not necessarily a "specialty area" but somewhere we can lvl him "actually all air pets" like we can the other land pets in the cube. or even just make nix able to come out "mabey only in room 4 of the cube" When you get to high lvls like I am, a lvl 1 pet "that you just paid over $100 cash for" should be easier to lvl than just going from mob to mob, or it should just start at the lvl "with the lvl stats" that the buy is at rather than lvl 1.0 -
Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Not necessarily a "specialty area" but somewhere we can lvl him "actually all air pets" like we can the other land pets in the cube. or even just make nix able to come out "mabey only in room 4 of the cube" When you get to high lvls like I am, a lvl 1 pet "that you just paid over $100 cash for" should be easier to lvl than just going from mob to mob, or it should just start at the lvl "with the lvl stats" that the buy is at rather than lvl 1.
What? Your too lazy to level your pet normally like all the other venomancers and you want more special treatment?
O please.... girl (or G.I.R.L.), you should work out and not be too lazy to level up a pet. Besides, your Phoenix gets sad if you don't play with it too much...
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Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »We have the cube for all the Land pets, but could we get somewhere to level the phoenix? I have just gotten my phoenix at lvl 80, and would really like to get something like room 4 in the cube please!! Hope to hear what all you guys have to say about this. b:laugh
The Nix levels fast, and kills even faster. Just fight things around it's level and watch it zoom. There should be NO trouble leveling the thing.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear wrote: »The Nix levels fast, and kills even faster. Just fight things around it's level and watch it zoom. There should be NO trouble leveling the thing.
Lol, yeah, you don't get pet exp reduction on mobs lower than yourself, only if the mobs are lower than your pet. Just go to a low lvl but high aggro area and set nix to defend mode, then watch it go.b:victory0 -
Zephyrx - Lost City wrote: »What? Your too lazy to level your pet normally like all the other venomancers and you want more special treatment?
O please.... girl (or G.I.R.L.), you should work out and not be too lazy to level up a pet. Besides, your Phoenix gets sad if you don't play with it too much...
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Wow do you have Veno envy or something? I notice you QQ about all the veno post. I don't know what the "rich" veno's do to get their money, but I will tell you now, I have not figured out how the heck they get a load of money! Between buying pet food, and all the other expenses I stay broke. Seems like you need to make a veno and lvl it to see how we have "no advantage" over other players, most of our attacks don't do as much damage as other classes so quit complaining on all the veno's post nobody cares about your wining. Your parents ever teach you if you have nothing nice to say hen don't say anything at all? If not, well, just please don't whine to me about your prob's with veno's, noone cares I promise. b:cry0 -
As far as the other posts go, the nix gets no more exp from killing mobs than any other pet, at low lvls it kills no faster, so it lvls no faster. It does go pretty well, till I get it to about lvl 50, then it slows to next to nothing "mainly because that is when it starts taking me longer to kill, I cannot aoe cause I pull aggro and die", till lvl 50 I just go aggro a bunch of mobs and kill them. Pets will get 15 exp for each mob killed "if it is the same lvl or higher" once you get to the lvl's where you need 1000 to lvl "which goes up more with every lvl" it takes more than 66 mobs for 1 lvl, I don't know about you but , I don't have that much time to spend just lvling a pet, we have fb's, bosses, and everything else we do for our faction, and that is time consuming, I spend 4-6 hours a day doing bosses, fb's, etc helping with other faction members stuff, so i don't really have 5 more hours a day to get a couple lvl's for a pet that is for sure. I would like to hear some veno opions on this to please.
thank you for any sugggestions that are helpful, but please if you just wanna QQ about veno's go to another post to do so.0 -
PET EXP SCROLL..yep thats what they should make for players like you.0
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Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Wow do you have Veno envy or something? I notice you QQ about all the veno post. I don't know what the "rich" veno's do to get their money, but I will tell you now, I have not figured out how the heck they get a load of money! Between buying pet food, and all the other expenses I stay broke. Seems like you need to make a veno and lvl it to see how we have "no advantage" over other players, most of our attacks don't do as much damage as other classes so quit complaining on all the veno's post nobody cares about your wining. Your parents ever teach you if you have nothing nice to say hen don't say anything at all? If not, well, just please don't whine to me about your prob's with veno's, noone cares I promise. b:cry
Oh ****...Your the best dam solo class and can make the MOST MONEY?
Pet food = Pure Water for you or is it like Ginseng? Because unless you have no ways to farm money. I doubt Pure Water is a huge expense.
You don't do damage? Hi, I meet the Phoenix....? Oh yea, being the best solo class doesn't mean a thing to you huh? Of course, You have two things attacking and I only have one. Do you suck so much in dps that you can't Out-dps a level 51 Cleric?
Yea my parents taught me that. But they taught me something more important. Like actually attempt to help people who are apparently **** instead of leaving them alone in the dust to rot. Of course I can be mean and don't give a dam about you.
Apparently you care...
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Zephyrx - Lost City wrote: »Oh ****...Your the best dam solo class and can make the MOST MONEY?
Pet food = Pure Water for you or is it like Ginseng? Because unless you have no ways to farm money. I doubt Pure Water is a huge expense.
You don't do damage? Hi, I meet the Phoenix....? Oh yea, being the best solo class doesn't mean a thing to you huh? Of course, You have two things attacking and I only have one. Do you suck so much in dps that you can't Out-dps a level 51 Cleric?
Yea my parents taught me that. But they taught me something more important. Like actually attempt to help people who are apparently **** instead of leaving them alone in the dust to rot. Of course I can be mean and don't give a dam about you.
Apparently you care...
P.S. I'm also the right butt cheek of god sent from heaven to pwn everyone beyond belief
kk, Herc and phoenix don't eat water, and since I am busy doin stuff all the time, I don't have time to farm for a 6% drop rate item.
Phoenix" right now phoenix sux because it is a low lvl" & Herc Damage "not all veno's have both, or either" up until now, I have not, and I am a lvl 80, so without them, no I have not done a bunch of damage, a "same lvl as myself" cleric can easily pull aggro off me if they attack. But if course I can out damage a 51 cleric "I am a lvl 80 duh". Ppl think these pets are hatched awesome, but they are not, when they are hatched both had only like 480 health to start with, and low attack/defence it is only with higher lvl's that you get decent defence and attacks. "Soloing things" I still can't solo alot of stuff, drum boss, decent lvl world bosses, fb69, so yes we can solo some things, but as far as I am concernered it isn't anything worth doing, unless you are just helpin a lower lvl player with a quest.
You do not try to help anyone that I have seen, you only critisize everyone you speak to so far. I have not seen you post a helpful comment on anyones post so far, you are only sarcastic and rude to most of them.
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Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »kk, Herc and phoenix don't eat water, and since I am busy doin stuff all the time, I don't have time to farm for a 6% drop rate item.
Phoenix" right now phoenix sux because it is a low lvl" & Herc Damage "not all veno's have both, or either" up until now, I have not, and I am a lvl 80, so without them, no I have not done a bunch of damage, a "same lvl as myself" cleric can easily pull aggro off me if they attack. But if course I can out damage a 51 cleric "I am a lvl 80 duh". Ppl think these pets are hatched awesome, but they are not, when they are hatched both had only like 480 health to start with, and low attack/defence it is only with higher lvl's that you get decent defence and attacks. "Soloing things" I still can't solo alot of stuff, drum boss, decent lvl world bosses, fb69, so yes we can solo some things, but as far as I am concernered it isn't anything worth doing, unless you are just helpin a lower lvl player with a quest.
You do not try to help anyone that I have seen, you only critisize everyone you speak to so far. I have not seen you post a helpful comment on anyones post so far, you are only sarcastic and rude to most of them.
Ha Ha, you having any power would be sad.
It is a choice to have a Hercules or Phoenix pet, no one has forced it on you. Obviously if they are the best pets to have, they are going to have major drawbacks to them to give some negative sanction to not get them. They have to be balanced somehow.
Sometimes, the best way to help someone is to criticize them, and so if it must be done in a rude manner, then it should be. Personally, I have read many of his posts, and though some of them he could be a bit kinder with, he is usually right with the points he makes.
And yes, Venomancers, having one myself, are the best solo class. While many classes have to squad up to prevent spending too much money while grinding by using pots and repairs, we can go almost nonstop with very little problem if we are careful. Does solo class mean you should be able to solo everything? Of course not, otherwise there would be no other classes.
So, yes you pay a penalty by taking a Hercules or Phoenix pet, that being you are probably going to have to put out extra money for them. As for leveling, you have to take that time to level them properly, that is one of the drawbacks to being a great solo class. If you don't want to have to level a pet though, it is your choice to get a different pet that you won't have to level. Cube of Fate I'm sure was not intended for being able to level land-based pets so easily, someone just happened to find it, and since there is no harm being done, game developers probably just let it go.0 -
FangJingShan - Lost City wrote: »
It is a choice to have a Hercules or Phoenix pet, no one has forced it on you. Obviously if they are the best pets to have, they are going to have major drawbacks to them to give some negative sanction to not get them. They have to be balanced somehow.
Sometimes, the best way to help someone is to criticize them, and so if it must be done in a rude manner, then it should be. Personally, I have read many of his posts, and though some of them he could be a bit kinder with, he is usually right with the points he makes.
And yes, Venomancers, having one myself, are the best solo class. While many classes have to squad up to prevent spending too much money while grinding by using pots and repairs, we can go almost nonstop with very little problem if we are careful. Does solo class mean you should be able to solo everything? Of course not, otherwise there would be no other classes.
So, yes you pay a penalty by taking a Hercules or Phoenix pet, that being you are probably going to have to put out extra money for them. As for leveling, you have to take that time to level them properly, that is one of the drawbacks to being a great solo class. If you don't want to have to level a pet though, it is your choice to get a different pet that you won't have to level. Cube of Fate I'm sure was not intended for being able to level land-based pets so easily, someone just happened to find it, and since there is no harm being done, game developers probably just let it go.
Well, obviously, the major draw back to getting the herc or phoenix would be having to pay over $100 cash for it, "I personally would say that is a huge drawback, not sure if you are rich enough to not consider it a drawback, but I do not usually have that kind of spare cash", I had to save up for quite a while for it.
Not sure exactly how you come up with you info, but actually "constructive criticism" is the best way to help a person, which you should have learned in school, but I am assuming you did not from this response. I would assume the person we are talking about is between 12-17 yrs of age, because of the way he speaks to, and about other ppl. Most adults would have the common sense not to act like a little snot when they respond to other ppl problems, questions, and info, however he/she just makes snide, smartalec comments and helps in no way "as far as I have seen in his posts" I have not actually seen he attempt to help anyone in any of his post, I just see him put his "opinions" on everyone else's posts, and general QQ about whatever they are talking about, usually nothing relevant to what the question or comment was, just his opinion on things, which helps no one.
As far as the soloing thing goes, yes we can solo alot of stuff, my response about that was because "certain ppl" said we can solo anything, which I know to be completely false and wanted to point that out.0 -
Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well, obviously, the major draw back to getting the herc or phoenix would be having to pay over $100 cash for it, "I personally would say that is a huge drawback, not sure if you are rich enough to not consider it a drawback, but I do not usually have that kind of spare cash", I had to save up for quite a while for it.
Not sure exactly how you come up with you info, but actually "constructive criticism" is the best way to help a person, which you should have learned in school, but I am assuming you did not from this response. I would assume the person we are talking about is between 12-17 yrs of age, because of the way he speaks to, and about other ppl. Most adults would have the common sense not to act like a little snot when they respond to other ppl problems, questions, and info, however he/she just makes snide, smartalec comments and helps in no way "as far as I have seen in his posts" I have not actually seen he attempt to help anyone in any of his post, I just see him put his "opinions" on everyone else's posts, and general QQ about whatever they are talking about, usually nothing relevant to what the question or comment was, just his opinion on things, which helps no one.
As far as the soloing thing goes, yes we can solo alot of stuff, my response about that was because "certain ppl" said we can solo anything, which I know to be completely false and wanted to point that out.
I believe the statement you made is it's own counter-argument b:chuckle
In regards to the whole "Room 4" power-leveling business, I'm sure the developers didn't intend to make it for that. It's just a little extra bonus that comes with the cube :P
So be glad you at least have that room to level up your land pets. A bit of grinding never hurt anyone :P (yes, I realize this is an understatement when it comes to leveling pets).0 -
Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well, obviously, the major draw back to getting the herc or phoenix would be having to pay over $100 cash for it, "I personally would say that is a huge drawback, not sure if you are rich enough to not consider it a drawback, but I do not usually have that kind of spare cash", I had to save up for quite a while for it.
Not sure exactly how you come up with you info, but actually "constructive criticism" is the best way to help a person, which you should have learned in school, but I am assuming you did not from this response. I would assume the person we are talking about is between 12-17 yrs of age, because of the way he speaks to, and about other ppl. Most adults would have the common sense not to act like a little snot when they respond to other ppl problems, questions, and info, however he/she just makes snide, smartalec comments and helps in no way "as far as I have seen in his posts" I have not actually seen he attempt to help anyone in any of his post, I just see him put his "opinions" on everyone else's posts, and general QQ about whatever they are talking about, usually nothing relevant to what the question or comment was, just his opinion on things, which helps no one.
As far as the soloing thing goes, yes we can solo alot of stuff, my response about that was because "certain ppl" said we can solo anything, which I know to be completely false and wanted to point that out.
For one, you chose to pay real money for the Phoenix rather than saving your in-game money for it. You chose to pay for it yourself, as anyone does when they buy gold for something they want from the boutique. It is not necessary, nor is anyone forced to do so. Are venomancers foced to have pets? No, but they will find it to be very pressuring to get one. Must they pay real money for it? No, they will feel no pressure to do so either.
You paid for an advantage, that is the difference. However, the drawback to getting that advantage is that you have to have special requirements for it. Same as with mounts. You can buy a mount at level 1, but you don't get to use it till level 40. If you want to use it at level 20, you have to pay additional money to. Again, you are paying for an advantage which comes with additional responsibilities. Just the same for a computer, you can buy the cheaper one that doesn't have the extra bells and whistles, but if you need repairs or anything special done to it, it doesn't cost as much as if you get that brand new top of the line computer with the same problems.
Also, sometimes people will not listen to constructive criticism alone. If you were in the military (not modern, as they have gotten too light on their recruits), you would not be told "it will be easier for you to run if you swing your arms in pace with your run." You will be yelled at and very rudely. They would not be kind and sincere with their men, they would be very harsh because this is the best way to get them to do better, by proving the sergeants wrong.
Just because they say it in school doesn't necessarily make it true. Schools used to say the earth was flat. Schools used to say the earth was six thousand years old. Schools used to say Greeks were the superior race. Being nice to others though is an ethical belief, so until someone can prove one ethical theory to be correct and every other one false, ethics cannot be judged as fact. This includes the question of whether to use constructive criticism or a harsh criticism.
I personally prefer constructive criticism, but that is because I find it very difficult to allow myself to be intentionally rude to others. He simply has a different way to try to help others, though it seems to be ego-centric when he does, he is not wrong in doing it and I will not say it is wrong because I can't prove it so. Yes, he does tend to be very opinionated and he puts his opinions on others. He also has a point to the reason he includes his opinion. As he has made it clear in this, we have many advantages that other classes don't have, and very few disadvantages.
In case you didn't think about this, the Hercules and Phoenix are both specifically designed for venomancers, yet the barbarian doesn't have a special tanking item that can only be used by it, nor the cleric a special healing item specific to it.
So, as I said, there are times that he could be much kinder, but his general point seems to be on target. the Cube room was simply an unexpected glitch, one which was found to not be harmful to general gameplay in any way, so it was kept. Again, part of being a venomancer is that we must take the time needed to level up our pets. If we get a new one that is low level, then that is our choice. No one forced you to get a Phoenix, you chose that, so you must take whatever time is necessary to level it.
Sorry for the long post by the way, every time I finished putting something in, saw a new area that needed improvement. As my teacher told me once though, "an essay is never finished, simply dealt with."0 -
FangJingShan - Lost City wrote: »For one, you chose to pay real money for the Phoenix rather than saving your in-game money for it. You chose to pay for it yourself, as anyone does when they buy gold for something they want from the boutique. It is not necessary, nor is anyone forced to do so. Are venomancers foced to have pets? No, but they will find it to be very pressuring to get one. Must they pay real money for it? No, they will feel no pressure to do so either.
You paid for an advantage, that is the difference. However, the drawback to getting that advantage is that you have to have special requirements for it. Same as with mounts. You can buy a mount at level 1, but you don't get to use it till level 40. If you want to use it at level 20, you have to pay additional money to. Again, you are paying for an advantage which comes with additional responsibilities. Just the same for a computer, you can buy the cheaper one that doesn't have the extra bells and whistles, but if you need repairs or anything special done to it, it doesn't cost as much as if you get that brand new top of the line computer with the same problems.
Also, sometimes people will not listen to constructive criticism alone. If you were in the military (not modern, as they have gotten too light on their recruits), you would not be told "it will be easier for you to run if you swing your arms in pace with your run." You will be yelled at and very rudely. They would not be kind and sincere with their men, they would be very harsh because this is the best way to get them to do better, by proving the sergeants wrong.
Just because they say it in school doesn't necessarily make it true. Schools used to say the earth was flat. Schools used to say the earth was six thousand years old. Schools used to say Greeks were the superior race. Being nice to others though is an ethical belief, so until someone can prove one ethical theory to be correct and every other one false, ethics cannot be judged as fact. This includes the question of whether to use constructive criticism or a harsh criticism.
I personally prefer constructive criticism, but that is because I find it very difficult to allow myself to be intentionally rude to others. He simply has a different way to try to help others, though it seems to be ego-centric when he does, he is not wrong in doing it and I will not say it is wrong because I can't prove it so. Yes, he does tend to be very opinionated and he puts his opinions on others. He also has a point to the reason he includes his opinion. As he has made it clear in this, we have many advantages that other classes don't have, and very few disadvantages.
In case you didn't think about this, the Hercules and Phoenix are both specifically designed for venomancers, yet the barbarian doesn't have a special tanking item that can only be used by it, nor the cleric a special healing item specific to it.
So, as I said, there are times that he could be much kinder, but his general point seems to be on target. the Cube room was simply an unexpected glitch, one which was found to not be harmful to general gameplay in any way, so it was kept. Again, part of being a venomancer is that we must take the time needed to level up our pets. If we get a new one that is low level, then that is our choice. No one forced you to get a Phoenix, you chose that, so you must take whatever time is necessary to level it.
Sorry for the long post by the way, every time I finished putting something in, saw a new area that needed improvement. As my teacher told me once though, "an essay is never finished, simply dealt with."
I just wanted to say thank you for your post. It was a refreshing change from what I usually see on these forums! I appreciate the respect in which you answer things, and I did not find it to long, it was just right for the point you were trying to make! Kudo's to you! b:thanks0 -
Thanks, I was hoping it wouldn't come off as being too rugged.0
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FangJingShan - Lost City wrote: »Thanks, I was hoping it wouldn't come off as being too rugged.
Not to rugged at all! Still want somewhere to power lvl my nix though. b:chuckle But I did appreciate it.0 -
Arielan - Heavens Tear wrote: »We have the cube for all the Land pets, but could we get somewhere to level the phoenix? I have just gotten my phoenix at lvl 80, and would really like to get something like room 4 in the cube please!! Hope to hear what all you guys have to say about this. b:laugh
I agree, lvling nix suck ^_^
Got my nix 4 days ago and it just hit lvl 80
Killing low lvl mobs for 0.1-0.5% per hour for 4 days is prolly the most boring thing i ever done since i started playing PW.
Hercules i got up to my own lvl in 1 day. Just put up reflect and aoe mobs and than lvl in cube. But the damn nix is a pain to lvl. Lucky venos that got nix during snowmen event b:cry
Have to add that i dont think cube room was a glitch. Developers have made it pretty obvious that they favor the class veno since we get so many benefits compared to other classes. Im pretty sure cube room 4 was intended for venos to lvl pets in lol. I mean why else would cube suddenly have a easy room where u can 1 shoot mobs using bare hands.0 -
Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »But the damn nix is a pain to lvl. Lucky venos that got nix during snowmen event b:cry
Dunno if those venos got a better deal. I mean, getting 4 of 5 snowmans ks'd by archers can be frustrating too :P0
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