Herc vs Bosses

slimmaster wrote: »

I was wondering what lvl a herc has to be to take on bosses.
I am mainly talking about quest bosses but also TT ones.
A list of all the quest bosses and the herc lvl needed would be nice. Im looking to help out my fellow faction people.

Thanks

Just a list of what I can remember.

@70
You can do all quest bosses expected eyes and kong.
you can tank all bosses in TT1-1

@75
you can tank kong.
you can tank 3 of 5 bosses in TT1-2

@80
you can tank all bosses in TT1-2, 3 of 5 in TT1-3 and 4 of 5 in TT2-1

@85

you can tank 4 of 6 in TT2-2


I think you may need to wait until 90+ to tank drum in 1-3 and Ape in 2-2. I do not know if wurlord in 2-2/2-3 and ape in 2-3 can ever be tanked by a herc.

swgs wrote: »

Just a list of what I can remember.

@70
You can do all quest bosses expected eyes and kong.
you can tank all bosses in TT1-1

@75
you can tank kong.
you can tank 3 of 5 bosses in TT1-2

@80
you can tank all bosses in TT1-2, 3 of 5 in TT1-3 and 4 of 5 in TT2-1

@85

you can tank 4 of 6 in TT2-2


I think you may need to wait until 90+ to tank drum in 1-3 and Ape in 2-2. I do not know if wurlord in 2-2/2-3 and ape in 2-3 can ever be tanked by a herc.

I've seen ape in 2-3 done by an 8x herc, you need 2 other venos there with maxed purge who know what they're doing.

Wurlord is pretty much not doable by a herc, you can do it with 3 venos if their heal timing is perfect, but if it gets one-shot you're in trouble.

Pretty much all of 3-1 is cake, though you need DD help for one boss.


BTW, found out yesterday mantavip is easy with a herc, who woulda known.

Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

I've seen ape in 2-3 done by an 8x herc, you need 2 other venos there with maxed purge who know what they're doing.

Wurlord is pretty much not doable by a herc, you can do it with 3 venos if their heal timing is perfect, but if it gets one-shot you're in trouble.

Pretty much all of 3-1 is cake, though you need DD help for one boss.


BTW, found out yesterday mantavip is easy with a herc, who woulda known.

I want to know how to do mantivip please.

Daerys - Sanctuary wrote: »

Lure him to one of the islands, the herc can stand on shore and tank him.

Any tips on how to lure him? And is any island preferable? He loses aggro so easily when lured. Might ask one of the venos in my guild for help.

swgs wrote: »

Yes cosmo is 2-2 can be tanked by a herc, but at least at my level, I still can not solo him. I have -15% channeling gears, comso killed my herc twice even I have another level 81 (LA) veno help me heal the pet when I was at level 84. But a level 84 herc with 3 venos should do it. I guess you were really lucky.

The problem with having 2 venos healing on very tough bosses is that unless you have the same channeling and network lag, the timing of your heals will eventually synchronize. When that happens, both your heals land simultaneously (probably wasting one), then the boss gets 2 free hits in before either of your next heals finish. This can also happen with 3 venos healing, but is rarer (I'd explain it more, but it gets into all sorts of math about rational and irrational numbers).

If you're good, you can watch for this starting to happen and manually insert a small pause in your heals to prevent it. The goal is for both of you to alternate heals - so one veno's heal lands right in the middle of the other veno's cast. The single veno with lots of channeling is easier because once you get enough channeling, you can just hold down the heal button. No need to pay attention to what's going on.

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

My herc has tanked cosmo in 2-2. We had no barb so I tanked the entire run. Much of the time I was just using my fox debuffs like amp and purge while another veno spammed pet heal, I just needed to toss in a few heals from time to time.

Not sure if this was intentional, but tactically this is probably the better way to spam-heal a pet if you have 2+ venos.

If the veno who owns the pet spam heals it, and starts falling behind on heals, she has to tell the other veno that she needs help healing.

If the veno who owns the pet is attacking while the other veno is spam healing, the owner can constantly monitor the pet's hp status and toss in an extra heal as needed. No need to even change target from the mob.

Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »

The problem with having 2 venos healing on very tough bosses is that unless you have the same channeling and network lag, the timing of your heals will eventually synchronize. When that happens, both your heals land simultaneously (probably wasting one), then the boss gets 2 free hits in before either of your next heals finish. This can also happen with 3 venos healing, but is rarer (I'd explain it more, but it gets into all sorts of math about rational and irrational numbers).

If you're good, you can watch for this starting to happen and manually insert a small pause in your heals to prevent it. The goal is for both of you to alternate heals - so one veno's heal lands right in the middle of the other veno's cast. The single veno with lots of channeling is easier because once you get enough channeling, you can just hold down the heal button. No need to pay attention to what's going on.

It is difficult you adjust timing because of graphical lag and network lag. animation dose not usually sync with the heal applied to the pet. so there is no guarantee the adjustment will work, I personally think it is best to have two venos with a big channeling gap to heal pet, like 1 veno with -30% another veno with no channeling. but no mater what there still a chance heal from both venos will land on pet together.

Oh btw i was about to do all of TT 1-1 including the drummer at lvl 64 with the help of a lvl 58 veno

Can someone plz explain to me how you can do mantavip? i tried the other day at 2 different islands with no luck he just doesnt get close enough.