Sage or Demon???

Oromis - Harshlands
Oromis - Harshlands Posts: 41 Arc User
edited May 2009 in Archer
when I get to 89 i have decided I will take the sage pathb:shocked
apparently almost every archer has taken the demon path and people are telling me the sage path sucks for archers, but I looked at the effects on skills for both paths and sage looks better to me. It has longer stuns a stronger feather shield a 90% increase in damage an extra 4 meters of range and other nice things.

any opinions on this?
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  • BloodCountes - Heavens Tear
    BloodCountes - Heavens Tear Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=263481
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  • revoker
    revoker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    You're Lv65 and already deciding, expecting to just casually walk up the ladder. Do you have any idea how long it will take to get to Lv89?? Without breaking the bank account that is.
  • Oromis - Harshlands
    Oromis - Harshlands Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    oh yea i know it will take forever but I like to plan ahead
  • Seveneyes - Harshlands
    Seveneyes - Harshlands Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Oromis - Harshlands wrote: »
    when I get to 89 i have decided I will take the sage pathb:shocked
    apparently almost every archer has taken the demon path and people are telling me the sage path sucks for archers, but I looked at the effects on skills for both paths and sage looks better to me. It has longer stuns a stronger feather shield a 90% increase in damage an extra 4 meters of range and other nice things.

    any opinions on this?

    This first mistake low levelled people make is that they don't look at the skills for demon properly.

    You specifically mentioned the +4 meters. This is incorrect, if you look at the demon range for the skill winged blessing it's range is +12 meters. So the comparison is +2 meters for heaven vs +1% crit and +10% accuracy for hell.

    This is quite apparent through many of the skills, so make sure you check for this before you decide.
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Oromis - Harshlands wrote: »
    when I get to 89 i have decided I will take the sage pathb:shocked
    apparently almost every archer has taken the demon path and people are telling me the sage path sucks for archers, but I looked at the effects on skills for both paths and sage looks better to me. It has longer stuns a stronger feather shield a 90% increase in damage an extra 4 meters of range and other nice things.

    any opinions on this?

    The bowmasterys with 90% dmg is very nice for sage, but sadly the only sageskill thats better than demon. There is not a single skill for sage thats better than the demon pvp-wise, pretty much all skills are pve-based and few usefull for TW.
    Yes the stun lasts slightly longer for sage, but demon gets add on critical.
    Pretty much all skills for sage gives chi while they give crit or speed for demon....
    You want chi or crit/speed for an archer, kinda stupid question. There is a reason the majority of archers go demon basically.

    Only nice thing with sage is that you can solo aoe lol. Always have chi for bombard, wingspan gives chi, thunder blaster has less casting time and with the 33% dmg reduction with barrage you can tank alot of mobs without blue bubble. But thats also pve-skills lol. Sage really sucks pvp wise, its kinda gimped compared to demon. Maybe demon/sage gets more equal when genies come out, since they also gives attack and crit.
  • The_Forgoten - Lost City
    The_Forgoten - Lost City Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    OMG PLEASE Don't start this again.
    I do admit that its not so bad now as it was 5 months ago lmao.
  • Suiryujin - Sanctuary
    Suiryujin - Sanctuary Posts: 449 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    hey! i decided i was going demon when i was like...50+>.>
    for me the decision was simple, demon eruption gives more atk speed, 2 skills provide crit boost, quick shot provides even more speed boost, interval between barrage hits are decreased, passive provides crit bonus. never miss lightning, extra dmg on lightning, chance to paralyze on lightning.
    i start archer as my 1st char because i want to deal damage, not because i want to disable/survive. my job is to deal the highest dmg possible, and well demon seems to do the job better.
    as for surviviablity. winged shell says absorb max is x10, well i dont know if thats true or i just read it wrong, but thats just plain godly. wing of protection gives even mroe evasion, better, wingspan autocast lvl 5 winged shell well hey... i like dmg absorbtions...
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  • Agentzero - Lost City
    Agentzero - Lost City Posts: 199 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    critital hits r based on chance. i dont like chance. so i am sage.

    so far so good
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  • Mephistic - Dreamweaver
    Mephistic - Dreamweaver Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Agentzero - Lost City wrote: »
    critital hits r based on chance. i dont like chance. so i am sage.

    so far so good

    Couldn't have put it better myself :3
  • arvizu
    arvizu Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    PVP -> Demon path
    PVE -> Sage path
    Zhen, team play etc. Sage is better IMO

    p.s. but i'll choose Demon ofc b:dirty
  • Masodaf - Sanctuary
    Masodaf - Sanctuary Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I'm gearing towards PVE, hence why I chose a PVE server, thus, I decided long ago to go Sage when the time comes. Had heard everywhere that sage=pve demon = pvp, so that pretty much made my choice for me.
  • Hsuzumiya - Sanctuary
    Hsuzumiya - Sanctuary Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    I dont think demon is only pvp. Sure it helps more in TW and such, but the Archer is a 1v1 attacker. It doesnt aoe pve mobs by itself. Demon = faster killing vs anything it attacks. Demon is the better choice imo,

    Less damage but longer stuns just means taking (wasting) more time to kill mobs,

    Just my opinion tho,
  • Gerrat - Sanctuary
    Gerrat - Sanctuary Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    arvizu wrote: »
    PVP -> Demon path
    PVE -> Sage path
    Zhen, team play etc. Sage is better IMO

    p.s. but i'll choose Demon ofc b:dirty

    hmhm you cant say that sage = pve
    cause I'm fast at kiling monster cause I crit much and in the Demon path you'll get many skills that increases your crit rate ^^

    and maybe you guys should read this ^^ http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=263481
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  • Annor - Heavens Tear
    Annor - Heavens Tear Posts: 330 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    In PVE... whether you crit or not on an individual attack is generally not a big deal, more relevant is your damage over a period of 15 seconds.. or 15 minutes in some cases. In PVP though... crits are your lifeblood -- whether you are a gambler or not, crits are a chance you have to embrace.

    I'm demon ';..;'
    But I don't think the decision is quite as easy as often implied..

    Sage's 50 chi per minute, and Sage:Thunderous Blast both make me drool a little (TB happens to be my favourite skill). If I had any doubts, I'm definately reassured when I pop that blood red cone (demonspark) and things fall to their knees.
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  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Annor - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    But I don't think the decision is quite as easy as often implied..

    I so very much agree with you here.

    In my opinion, Sage and Demon archers should wear different gear, and should be using different tactics, and comparisons like this thread offers really only give vague hints.

    And, even focusing on some of the simplest issues... in my opinion, once they have bought their skills, sages get spike damage (they have high, unreliable critical hits) and demons get reliable damage (they get reliable critical hits and have higher accuracy and can speed up their attack rate)... but really, I think they will just play differently. But, in contrast,... er.. anyways, this gets really complicated so we pretty much have to pick based on superficial comparisons. Of course, this thread does have some decent superficial comparisons but I will be choosing based on my own criteria so I am happy -- I am not playing so someone on lost city can be happy.
  • Leaderalan - Lost City
    Leaderalan - Lost City Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Good info on here.


    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=247521
    &
    The other link on that page as way more info, on this topic.
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  • CRYSTY - Sanctuary
    CRYSTY - Sanctuary Posts: 68 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Agentzero - Lost City wrote: »
    critital hits r based on chance. i dont like chance. so i am sage.

    so far so good

    Well,u got right !! I meet many cases when i shot 10 hits on each mob and just 1 was crit.Id like to be a sage for: 1.- for tanking higher mobs with not a very powerful equipment 2.- i dont want to play in PvP mode 3.- i dont like the dark side lol .Both paths have some nice boosts skills...Sage=more defence ...Demon=more attack...I didnt read carefuly all skills for sage/demon to compare :D but im sure i wanna be Sage ;) b:victory
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