One for the books (under "I have a million ideas...."

shockblock · April 2009

(Quoted by "Anothersucker" in a previous thread)...Where to begin? I've been playing a certain game for 5 years ( I won't mention it's name but it's initials are W.O.W) and that is 1 good game. $15 a month and the world they created is yours, there are no restrictions, you can go out and buy like 200 flying mounts that go 280% faster than walking, the starter/ riding mount go's %60 faster, epic riding %100. And you can become fully epiced out, pwn the server with skill, not Cash/Money. ohh and LOTS of bag space not this 6 slot bank ****. So you can actually get somewhere in that game and it's satisfying. And the quest are usually within the area (Not 1000 miles away) Like you all PURPOSELY DESIGNED PW so the slow **** mount will force people to upgrade with a big chuck of $. The quests are original and "occasionaly" monotonuos but very rarely, with escort, rescue, find, kill, dungeons. But they keep it fun for the customer. They don't take advantage of their customers, they like them.
Your games on the other hand are designed to draw people in, get them hooked and make them fork over thier pay checks just to be able to get anywhere faster than a snails pace. A FLYING MOUNT I CAN RUN FASTER THAN? WTF is that? Then I spent $100 to make it go faster and it turned into a pain in the **** quest and I can't even see the difference in the flight speed. Guess I'll spend $100 more to go 5.5 mph.
And what's with the if you die you lose Exp ****?? Seriously.. Is that to keep people from trying something a little challenging? I actually lose EXP if I want to have fun and enjoy the f'ing game, a game that you can't zoom the camera out far enough to see the mobs that randomly path to **** you. Not to mention the half second delay on every spell. That cast should cast the second I hit the button. I kill 40 mobs, die, lose ALLL I worked for. If I dare **** up and die again, I loSe like 2 hours of grinding the same trash earlier!!. That is rediculously stupid.
You guys are trying to breed crack addicts and it's discusting. Have alittle morality. It took me FOREVER to make it to lvl 38 by your boring **** HELL monotonous-Kill 10000000 of this then 1000000 of tht system that I quit for a long time. I came back hoping you might have tweeked the system and made it feel more like a game than a drug but nope, same thing. I litterally get a dirty feeling like I shouldnt be playing this game when I do play it because I see every exploit you put in the game to make people pay more $. No joke, I feel sick from playing, kinda like I just killed a puppy kinda sick..
The ONLY reason I chose to right this letter was not to throw stones,(Well maybe cuz I don't like cussing at my toon to move faster or cussing at a vendor cuz it costs more to to teleport to quests than fly 2 MPH- Hence the "CHARGE MORE ZEN MY LITTLE PW FIEND JUNKIES".... I do like this game. This game has SOOO much potential, like #1 potential, but you can't be so greedy, let the people enjoy it, You've designed it to be a cult, an addiction. If you're gonna take time out of peoples lifes then make it fun not a f'ing grind fest, and if you're gonna take thier money, make it worth it, and in moderation. Not everyone can afford $500 a month to be the uberest. Then alll those people that say "F this game" might actually stay and you wind up making more money instead of losing customers. I SPENT $100 in 1 day ON A MOUNT THAT GOES 5 MILES AN HOUR!. NOW IT GOES LIKE 5.5 MPR. See what I'm saying. Why don't you get some of your developers and money grubbers to go play WoW, then you might learn what real game mechanics and buisiness ethics are so you can be on that road to #1. Like I said, I do like this game, but only for about 5 minutes a month then it makes me sick again..That freaking Flying Stingray is slow as f!@##. WAY to slow and WAY to monotontous. Ty for taking about 3 month off of my life. I spent like $300 on your game in a week. And it really didn't get me anywhere and was restricted to one character. A character I might not even like anymore... "Scam Artists" is what your next game should be called

"Lots of rabble rabble".. then ..

Ok. How does that guy calculate $900 a month from $15 a month??? Thats $180 a year. Yeah you have to buy 2 expansions. only ONCE each.. $45 for BC + $45 for WotLK. But you still pay $15 a month..
Is this the same kind of mathmatics that keep people playing this game?? I'm talking U.S. Dollars not Yen as over seas they laugh at you as fill thier pockets and take a year to get to your destination to grind 10000 mobs.
Hey guess what? You do have to grind in that game, But THAT game takes skill. Not mindless clicking, because you actually Have to move in a split second out of spells, you have trap, freeze, fear, banish, stun, turn them into sheep, frogs. curse, silence, buff people. ect...
Everything has a purpose in that game. And the controls and gameplay... You can actually move and do all this! Actually, you have to move to survive! That is a true game that requires actual teamwork and friendship.
His points are VERY valid.. PW is just good graphics with very bad mechanics..
Like it or not, defend it or try from experience. it's the truth. You can trust the U.S. dollar for quality or you can look at EVERY SINGLE free to play game out there and see they are all designed to **** you off and frustrate you to the point of giving in and spending a fortune to make it somewhere in the game.
Go ahead and support the Yen though as they call you a stupid westerner.. And those of you speaking up and defending this with your Moms credit card in the basement.... Save your mom some money and take this advice. You with thank me and whoever Anothersucker is. LOL. In that game, you cannot set up a shop and lag out the entire server, HELL NO. Dont you all see something wrong where EVERY SINGLE ITEM in the game has an important use?? Yet you are given such a SMALL AS HELL means to carry it? There's no trash in this game..And the only way to make REAL money in the game is to SET UP A SHOP WITH THE OTHER MILLION PLAYERS?? Completely, totally lagging out the server. And you know why they haven't come up with a better system?? BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE A RATS **** ABOUT YOU AS A PAYING CUSTOMER. They don't care how well their game is running. That's why the only way to actually talk to a GM is to say "IM STUCK" so they eventually hit a button as they say, "DAMNIT, UGHHH I HAVE TO GO CLICK A DAMN BUTTON FOR THIS A-HOLE. YOU ARE JUST "Anothersucker" and leave your computer on ALL NIGHT AND DAY to maybe make a little money to buy a piece of gear out of 100,000 other people trying to do the same thing in 1 little sector..
Do you all REALLY not see the flaws in this system??? If you're to young to understand or own a credit card, and never tryed anything outside the box,, your answer does not apply. But I have to agree, It is very sickening.. Communism is suppose to be dead. yet everyone at a certain level and class has no options about the gear they wear... The other game.. Take your pick, you decide what's best for you.

Arravis - Lost City · April 2009

If you don't like the game, then go play something else. Very simple.

The other game you refer to is a SUBSCRIPTION based game. In Perfect World, you don't have to pay anything to keep your account open. Spend some $ to get you started, and you can keep going from there forever. You can quit for a few months, and then come back at no charge - it's very simple.

The way this game is works is this: You can be poor in real life but work hard in the game, or you can be rich in life and not have to work much in the game. If you are BOTH poor in real life and lazy...Well, it should be time to change yourself a bit. Either get a job, or start giving some effort into the game. Or put some more effort into getting a better job.

Or, again, very simply switch to another game. No sense in making such a long rant complaining how flawed Perfect World is. There are many, MANY other players that enjoy and love this game. b:bye

shockblock · April 2009

Did you just refer to not wanting to grind the same mobs for 5 hours then grinding more cuz there's no more quests at your level as "lazy"? When's the last time you went outside and planted a tree or build something with your own 2 hands or took time away from the screen? You have a very skewed definition of "lazy". You don't have to tell me what this game is about. It's very obvious to me.

stormhydra · April 2009

Well Written... I think my eyes kinda hurt now; ITS CALLED PARAGRAPHS =/

But seriously, its true. Anyone ever heard of a game called "Gunbound"? Was one of the best games Ive played. Now all the players are corrupt, now there aren't any people who dont pay RL money in that game. The people who made the game are basically blinded by money. Might be what PW becomes.
Dont just say "Play another game". This isnt a a full complaint, its a complaint AND A SUGGESTION. CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

But seriously, if you believe that the PW devs are this corrupt, try out Gunbound.

shockblock · April 2009

lol, you can't write paragraphs. It all gets pushed to the left. I tryed, sorry

Arravis - Lost City · April 2009

stormhydra wrote: »

This isnt a a full complaint, its a complaint AND A SUGGESTION. CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.

shockblock wrote: »

(Quoted by "Anothersucker" in a previous thread)...Where to begin? I've been playing a certain game for 5 years ( I won't mention it's name but it's initials are W.O.W) and that is 1 good game. $15 a month and the world they created is yours, there are no restrictions, you can go out and buy like 200 flying mounts that go 280% faster than walking, the starter/ riding mount go's %60 faster, epic riding %100. And you can become fully epiced out, pwn the server with skill, not Cash/Money. ohh and LOTS of bag space not this 6 slot bank ****. So you can actually get somewhere in that game and it's satisfying. And the quest are usually within the area (Not 1000 miles away) Like you all PURPOSELY DESIGNED PW so the slow **** mount will force people to upgrade with a big chuck of $. The quests are original and "occasionaly" monotonuos but very rarely, with escort, rescue, find, kill, dungeons. But they keep it fun for the customer. They don't take advantage of their customers, they like them.
Your games on the other hand are designed to draw people in, get them hooked and make them fork over thier pay checks just to be able to get anywhere faster than a snails pace. A FLYING MOUNT I CAN RUN FASTER THAN? WTF is that? Then I spent $100 to make it go faster and it turned into a pain in the **** quest and I can't even see the difference in the flight speed. Guess I'll spend $100 more to go 5.5 mph.
And what's with the if you die you lose Exp ****?? Seriously.. Is that to keep people from trying something a little challenging? I actually lose EXP if I want to have fun and enjoy the f'ing game, a game that you can't zoom the camera out far enough to see the mobs that randomly path to **** you. Not to mention the half second delay on every spell. That cast should cast the second I hit the button. I kill 40 mobs, die, lose ALLL I worked for. If I dare **** up and die again, I loSe like 2 hours of grinding the same trash earlier!!. That is rediculously stupid.
You guys are trying to breed crack addicts and it's discusting. Have alittle morality. It took me FOREVER to make it to lvl 38 by your boring **** HELL monotonous-Kill 10000000 of this then 1000000 of tht system that I quit for a long time. I came back hoping you might have tweeked the system and made it feel more like a game than a drug but nope, same thing. I litterally get a dirty feeling like I shouldnt be playing this game when I do play it because I see every exploit you put in the game to make people pay more $. No joke, I feel sick from playing, kinda like I just killed a puppy kinda sick..
The ONLY reason I chose to right this letter was not to throw stones,(Well maybe cuz I don't like cussing at my toon to move faster or cussing at a vendor cuz it costs more to to teleport to quests than fly 2 MPH- Hence the "CHARGE MORE ZEN MY LITTLE PW FIEND JUNKIES".... I do like this game. This game has SOOO much potential, like #1 potential, but you can't be so greedy, let the people enjoy it, You've designed it to be a cult, an addiction. If you're gonna take time out of peoples lifes then make it fun not a f'ing grind fest, and if you're gonna take thier money, make it worth it, and in moderation. Not everyone can afford $500 a month to be the uberest. Then alll those people that say "F this game" might actually stay and you wind up making more money instead of losing customers. I SPENT $100 in 1 day ON A MOUNT THAT GOES 5 MILES AN HOUR!. NOW IT GOES LIKE 5.5 MPR. See what I'm saying. Why don't you get some of your developers and money grubbers to go play WoW, then you might learn what real game mechanics and buisiness ethics are so you can be on that road to #1. Like I said, I do like this game, but only for about 5 minutes a month then it makes me sick again..That freaking Flying Stingray is slow as f!@##. WAY to slow and WAY to monotontous. Ty for taking about 3 month off of my life. I spent like $300 on your game in a week. And it really didn't get me anywhere and was restricted to one character. A character I might not even like anymore... "Scam Artists" is what your next game should be called

"Lots of rabble rabble".. then ..

Ok. How does that guy calculate $900 a month from $15 a month??? Thats $180 a year. Yeah you have to buy 2 expansions. only ONCE each.. $45 for BC + $45 for WotLK. But you still pay $15 a month..
Is this the same kind of mathmatics that keep people playing this game?? I'm talking U.S. Dollars not Yen as over seas they laugh at you as fill thier pockets and take a year to get to your destination to grind 10000 mobs.
Hey guess what? You do have to grind in that game, But THAT game takes skill. Not mindless clicking, because you actually Have to move in a split second out of spells, you have trap, freeze, fear, banish, stun, turn them into sheep, frogs. curse, silence, buff people. ect...
Everything has a purpose in that game. And the controls and gameplay... You can actually move and do all this! Actually, you have to move to survive! That is a true game that requires actual teamwork and friendship.
His points are VERY valid.. PW is just good graphics with very bad mechanics..
Like it or not, defend it or try from experience. it's the truth. You can trust the U.S. dollar for quality or you can look at EVERY SINGLE free to play game out there and see they are all designed to **** you off and frustrate you to the point of giving in and spending a fortune to make it somewhere in the game.
Go ahead and support the Yen though as they call you a stupid westerner.. And those of you speaking up and defending this with your Moms credit card in the basement.... Save your mom some money and take this advice. You with thank me and whoever Anothersucker is. LOL. In that game, you cannot set up a shop and lag out the entire server, HELL NO. Dont you all see something wrong where EVERY SINGLE ITEM in the game has an important use?? Yet you are given such a SMALL AS HELL means to carry it? There's no trash in this game..And the only way to make REAL money in the game is to SET UP A SHOP WITH THE OTHER MILLION PLAYERS?? Completely, totally lagging out the server. And you know why they haven't come up with a better system?? BECAUSE THEY DONT GIVE A RATS **** ABOUT YOU AS A PAYING CUSTOMER. They don't care how well their game is running. That's why the only way to actually talk to a GM is to say "IM STUCK" so they eventually hit a button as they say, "DAMNIT, UGHHH I HAVE TO GO CLICK A DAMN BUTTON FOR THIS A-HOLE. YOU ARE JUST "Anothersucker" and leave your computer on ALL NIGHT AND DAY to maybe make a little money to buy a piece of gear out of 100,000 other people trying to do the same thing in 1 little sector..
Do you all REALLY not see the flaws in this system??? If you're to young to understand or own a credit card, and never tryed anything outside the box,, your answer does not apply. But I have to agree, It is very sickening.. Communism is suppose to be dead. yet everyone at a certain level and class has no options about the gear they wear... The other game.. Take your pick, you decide what's best for you.

This is "CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM?" Right. The language is vulgar enough to make it more like flaming than anything else.

And yes, he should go play another game. He is telling me to go out and plant a tree. But at least I don't write (incoherent) novels about how bad a game sucks.

shockblock · April 2009

I said nothing about that being constructive critism, the guy after me did. I know it's not constructive critism because the devs don't care. I bet IF they read this they're cracking up laughing at the truth of it all. And I was backing another quote I read in a previous thread. CHARGE YOUR ZEN!!!!!!

Arravis - Lost City · April 2009

shockblock wrote: »

I said nothing about that being constructive critism, the guy after me did.

Which is I referred to you as "he" in my posts. I was posting it to "the guy after" you. Read carefully.

I know it's not constructive critism because the devs don't care. I bet IF they read this they're cracking up laughing at the truth of it all. And I was backing another quote I read in a previous thread. CHARGE YOUR ZEN!!!!!

Let's see you design a game. Yes, every game has a lot of potential. Of course, PW would become the #1 game ever if it was free. But have you ever considered the devs? This game is their market, to make money in real life just like you and me. Who knows. Maybe some of them are still young and have to pay for tuition. Maybe some of them have children to feed and families to support.

shockblock · April 2009

I have actually considered that. I know they don't have the #'s of players that the other game has. But I do believe in everything in moderation, I do believe the consumer comes first. And I believe the way to make something #1 is word of mouth. And.. Judging by how much it costs for bag space and mount speed increases and all the little kitty shops in Arch, I'm pretty sure the Devs are rolling in $$$. Now if I went around trying to convince my friends to play PW with me. It would kinda be like, "Hey! I know this awesome game you can like fly at lvl 1 as a winged elf. The graphics are awesome, (until you go to a city and have to turn them down to super low) you can make your toons look exactly how you want them bla bla" They might say cool I want to try it. Then we start characters together and they're going to say.. " This is the same thing over and over and over again".. No doubt it is a good game if you have the patients or don't mind the feeling of your brain leaking out of your ear in a comatose state. But very few people do.

Arravis - Lost City · April 2009

shockblock wrote: »

No doubt it is a good game if you have the patients or don't mind the feeling of your brain leaking out of your ear in a comatose state. But very few people do.

Then? Leave the game for the "very few people."

To be honest, there are only a small number of people that spend gazillions of $$$ on this game. All others, myself included, have only spent very little to get us started. Everything from then on is GAMEPLAY SKILL. Law from LC acquired +10 level 90 Gold GX, and he only ever paid $20 for a few charms and a panther mount.

Personally, I also spent a small sum at the beginning, but that was all it took to get started; after that, making coins in the game was easy.

Due keep in mind, you are discussing with a humble level 86 barbarian. There is still all this: http://pwi.perfectworld.com/rank

shockblock · April 2009

But I really hope what I said goes in the other ear that's not leaking, and rattles around in there, as well for the devs and staff and whoever decided that making people leave their PC's running 24/7 like a lifeless vendor/zombie to have a 1/1000% chance to maybe sell something and make enough money to fly to the next city was a good idea... I'm not ragging on the players, this isn't an insult to you, to an extent I like the game too. I'm just trying to bring something to someones attention. So it'll be more fun to play for everyone.

Sylvini - Heavens Tear · April 2009

Shockblock, your posts have done nothing more than to tell me that you know nothing about the game. I leveled past 39 in 3 days on my first character. 3 days, when I didn't even know what I was doing! My archer got there in about 2 days. As for killing things over and over again, 20 mobs isn't much. Hell, the quests for 60+ mobs I'm getting now go by in a breeze. That's about 20 minutes for me. Where are these nameless 'go kill 100000000 mobs' quests that are 'all the same'? I haven't seen any.

And as for spending money, I have yet to spend a penny on this game. I have enjoyed killing things, I have enjoyed soloing, I have enjoyed party and faction banter, I have enjoyed dungeons, I have enjoyed the beautiful scenery.

Oh, and you do realize there are 2 in-game quests to expand your bank box, don't you? And you do realize that inventory and safe stones can be bought from PCs for very little coin (~1 hour grind for me), don't you?

If you enjoyed WoW so much, then go back to it. That's not an insult, it's serious advice. If you were happy and you made a change and now you aren't happy any more, go back to what you were doing. If for whatever reason you can't afford that $15/month any more, there are plenty of other F2P games out there. Will any of them compare to WoW? Probably not. Will they all have some kind of Cash Shop to generate revenue? Probably (you could always try a UO shard). Will those Cash Shop items be 'required' to play the game? On most F2P MMOs, probably about 100X moreso than on PWI.

Aliceskywing - Heavens Tear · April 2009

well at least pwi didn't waste their game world wow has such an enormous world and they hardly use any of it

ill agree with you one one thing quicker and cheep transportation would be a nice improvement

Antelope - Lost City · April 2009

Thank you so much... I love you for this thread, I agree to everything you say.

Pimpineasy - Sanctuary · April 2009

i just cant stand the invtory space never in any game have i felt so limited they need to add like at least 1 or 2 more rows in for free since they keep giving me these **** items i cant even get rid of wtf is that now i cant even keep some items i want because there is lvl 20 gear i cant use that i cant destroy

Agravain - Heavens Tear · May 2009

This reads like a the tirade of a paranoid, disgruntled high schooler just before he saws the ends off his shotguns. The world isn't out to get you. Silent black helicopter aren't circling over head. There are no great conspiracies or plots to addict you or rob you. Take your medication and shut up... please.

CatShadow - Lost City · May 2009

Pimpineasy - Sanctuary wrote: »

i just cant stand the invtory space never in any game have i felt so limited they need to add like at least 1 or 2 more rows in for free since they keep giving me these **** items i cant even get rid of wtf is that now i cant even keep some items i want because there is lvl 20 gear i cant use that i cant destroy

It would be nice to have some more inventory space. But if you have level 20 gear you want to use, keep it in the safe at the Banker in any city. Also, items that drop from mobs(like Limestone or Element Powder) can be sold to the NPCs such as Blacksmiths or Tailors in the "See Trade List" tab, which will give you more coin to use on things you can use.

Or you can go on the manufacturing quest and get a manufacture skill. Then, you can use those "useless" items to make armor or weapons.

AzuraFireGod - Heavens Tear · May 2009

This game is damn amazing. I dont have to pay every month, i didnt have to pay to start, and if i leave my account doesnt get deleted. While PW may be money grubbing (dont get me wrong) no one told anybody to spend their money. OK SO STOP BAD TALKING THIS GAME b:angry. But i do understand that money may be the objective in this game. But let me ask you a question do you know one perso in this world who DOESNT WANT MONEY OR ISNT MONEY GRUBBING. HELLOOOOOOO MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND JACKASS. And if you like wow so much GO THE HELL BACK TO IT.

Himntor - Lost City · May 2009

I am at level 23 and i dnt spend 1 buck on this Game....shockblock what class are you? get a cleric..or archer..idk, but complaining like this ain't gunna help you. Oh and for everybody else the reason Antelope agree's with him is cuz she another low level empty minded nub.

Wrathfulsynn - Heavens Tear · May 2009

Actually, I can see what Shock is saying. Yes, Free to Play games are meant to make money. Why else charge for clothes that come in random colors, but not allow specific pigments to be bought directly? Why charge for a mystery box of battle pet items, when the quantities and objects are random?

Sure, you can buy everything in-game, from other players. However, they are still paying the game. You can't get everything, from other players. Even now, you have to get a "Perfect Iron Hammer" to open the new Supply Stash. The hammer costs $5. You have to buy 2. One at level 50 and one at level 80. This means that, for each character that you want to use the stash on, and lvl over 80, someone is going to pay $10. You want a herc or nix? Someone is going to have to pay, at least, $100. That's assuming they get the 50 Source of Force boxes on every attempt. Planning on dying your dress a specific color? You know, the one that requires 12 pigments? That's $6, assuming your color comes up every time. Free to Play doesn't really mean completely free. Someone's paying, somewhere. Keep that in mind.

As for the increasingly lengthy killing quests, and the amazing distances you have to travel to complete them, that's part of any game. Ever tried completing the quests in Act 3 of Diablo 2? That's a nice little walk. No mounts at all, in that game. Putting a reward at the end of a quest is a way to make grinding a little more pleasurable. It's like getting paid for something you would have to do anyway. You try killing 60 Foxwing Supremes, for no reason at all, and tell me it was completely enjoyable.

I play the game, I love the game, but I am not blind about it. This is free to play, some of the time, but not as mindless as it seems. Think about it the next time you compare games.

Black_Ghost - Heavens Tear · May 2009

1: i'm lvl 74 and i haven't spent a cent on this game. EVERY SINGLE ITEM CAN BE BOUGHT IN GAME. in either a catshop or in auction house. there are ALOTTA game that don't sell cashshop item in game. if u spent 100 dollars on this game it was by ur own choice not the fault of PWI

2: i got to lvl 38 in 2 days my first time. if u cant get to lvl 38 in less than a week u suck at mmo's the quest are way easy for the exp.

3:if u hate the game so much stop bi@%*ing about it and stop playing. and let others enjoy the game

b:bye

Buffer - Dreamweaver · May 2009

Wrathfulsynn - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Actually, I can see what Shock is saying. Yes, Free to Play games are meant to make money. Why else charge for clothes that come in random colors, but not allow specific pigments to be bought directly? Why charge for a mystery box of battle pet items, when the quantities and objects are random?

Sure, you can buy everything in-game, from other players. However, they are still paying the game. You can't get everything, from other players. Even now, you have to get a "Perfect Iron Hammer" to open the new Supply Stash. The hammer costs $5. You have to buy 2. One at level 50 and one at level 80. This means that, for each character that you want to use the stash on, and lvl over 80, someone is going to pay $10. You want a herc or nix? Someone is going to have to pay, at least, $100. That's assuming they get the 50 Source of Force boxes on every attempt. Planning on dying your dress a specific color? You know, the one that requires 12 pigments? That's $6, assuming your color comes up every time. Free to Play doesn't really mean completely free. Someone's paying, somewhere. Keep that in mind.

As for the increasingly lengthy killing quests, and the amazing distances you have to travel to complete them, that's part of any game. Ever tried completing the quests in Act 3 of Diablo 2? That's a nice little walk. No mounts at all, in that game. Putting a reward at the end of a quest is a way to make grinding a little more pleasurable. It's like getting paid for something you would have to do anyway. You try killing 60 Foxwing Supremes, for no reason at all, and tell me it was completely enjoyable.

I play the game, I love the game, but I am not blind about it. This is free to play, some of the time, but not as mindless as it seems. Think about it the next time you compare games.

Of course someone pays, someone would have to right? Or else there wouldn't be a game period.
When you get to the core, yes, its free to play. Even if you want to experience EVERYTHING in the game, yes, its still free to play. If you want to become rich and get what you want, when you want it (quickly I add), then you'll end up spending some cash, which is fine because it means they can keep the server up and running.

Now to the OP.

This seems to be nothing more than a giant rant. There aren't any suggestions there. It looks, more or less, someone promoting another game.

If you like the way they did it and hate how PW is doing it, then why the hell are you still here?

Maddrox - Harshlands · May 2009

No way in hell im reading this.. Scanning through the first bit I saw something of the WOW sort so I say you go die >_>

/Bad Suggestion

Chaotiic - Lost City · May 2009

Cash shop on this game DOES NOT give anything that is vital to playing the game it gives LUXURIES which are not necessary and can even be bought from other players with in-game coin. You dont like having a choice to pay for luxuries or play completely free then gtfo

CatShadow - Lost City · May 2009

Just because no one has mentioned this...

"It took me FOREVER to make it to lvl 38 by your boring **** HELL monotonous-Kill 10000000 of this then 1000000 of tht system that I quit for a long time."

What kind of quests have you been going on? I've yet to see a quest where you have to kill 10000000 mobs. And even if it did exist, I get the feeling there would be a significant amount of exp/sp/coin to gain from it. Hell, I've got a level 84 friend in CQ and he kills 70-80 mobs per quest, not 10000000.

Stop badmouthing the game. Don't play if you're going to rant on the forums. Go outside. Play a different game. Go on a godda.mn killing spree if you want to, just stop putting empty arguments on this forum.

Kieirranna - Lost City · July 2009

ok, that was alot to read...and i know what game ur talking about cuz i play it too...and what the barb says is kinda true as well...stop complainin so much...but i do agree with the whole speed/$$$ thing...it does get annoying...and im not even allowed to spend money on this game (mom wont let me) so i have to get over it...it would be nice if i could get an outfit that i wanted as a quest bonus or something...but the game is free...im allowed to patch and play at no charge...all the things that are unimportant and stuff that i WANT, not NEED, cost me something...big deal! i enjoy PW alot, even if the stuff i want costs me...oh well! its nothing to whine over! if u want to SUGGEST something, dont bash the entire thing...say something a little nicer maybe! i find it cool that i can turn my skin purple and what not instead of having, what, 6 diff colors and thats it? the game is awesome, whilst i would tweak a few things, but all in all, its worth my time...really, if you dislike the game so much, follow the barb's advice and find another game to play...okies im done b:victory

Eunuch - Dreamweaver · July 2009

Hey OP, writing a wall of text is cool if you wanna blow some steam. However, if you actually have something worth saying and there's a alot of it, try bullet points and sticking to the absolute necesary.

I didn't read a single word of that mother****ing bull**** your ***** **** vomited on the forum.

abcyang · July 2009

We all choose ways to spend time. We also waste time. Reading fictional books, watching mind-numbing (relaxing) stuff on t.v, or playing games like this, etc, etc. My choise is not to spend a cent. Which has occurred so far. I tried that with Pangya for a while, but ended up forking out $20 for good golf clubs which was heaps better, so maybe I'll buy something in this game eventually. I don't care how much better WOW might be, I don't planning on spending the money, and I thank the developers of all free MMOG's as the give people like me the chance to play. Back to my first sentence, I find this game mind-numbingly relaxing and so I play it for that reason. If I wanted in depth brain development I'd start an on-line university course. Good health all, and has been stated before, if you don't like it, simple, don't play it. Adios.

Lady_Satsue - Lost City · July 2009

Something I have noticed from WoW players is that they all seam convinced that a lot of the MMO's I play have stolen from them when they are too incompetant to realize that ALL the MMO's I play are older than WoW. If anything WoW has "stolen" and then enhanced ideas from every other MMO.

I have seen what that game does to people. (Seriously, it is like meth, it changes people!) Now the nice thing is that you don't have to spend cash to get any of the items from the boutique. They can ALL be purchased w/ in game money. I don't believe any game is worth 15$ a month because for that you could get a brand new game every other month and get a lifetime of use out of them. It is a joke; much like your opinion. Now to those that do enjoy it enough to blow 15$ on it a month (which is mandatory) as well as paying for all the updates good for them! The idea that PWI is doing stuff just for cash could be said ten fold for WoW because it requires money spending. That is very sad but I know that you play way more than enough to get your moneys worth (which is all the more pathetic BTW) FOR THE LOVE OF GOD GET SOME SUN!!!!

StormHydra - Sanctuary · July 2009

WHo the hell necroed this?

One for the books (under "I have a million ideas...."

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