Archer weapons from supply box
TaRo - Dreamweaver
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Not sure if this was purposely done, but the bows from suppy boxes do not glow as does the other class weapons
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i dont know either, but it kinda stinks that my bow doesnt glow
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not 2 sound like a noob or sumthin becuz im new, but wat is a supply box?0
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they just impletmented it into the game this week, but u get free stuff pretty much
u get the supply box at one of the starting places of each class
or....theres info here:
http://pwi.perfectworld.com/news/newsubpage/expansion-preview-2661
list of items are.....
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=265191
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Metholos - Sanctuary wrote: »not 2 sound like a noob or sumthin becuz im new, but wat is a supply box?
You're mistaking being new to the game (or a newb) with being a noob. A noob is the sort of person that wouldn't know to try the search function before posting a question, for instance.0 -
I noticed it wasnt fixed yet.. I hope this thread was noticed by a GM. Tho its a lower level weapon its still nice to hav a shiny one just like everyother class. I have a character of almost everyclass and i only think its very unfair to the archers..I believe the shiny weapon was imbedded for one to feel good with their weapon , so GMs please fix the archer bug from the supply box if it wasnt intentionally done.. Thank You0
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TaRo - Dreamweaver wrote: »I noticed it wasnt fixed yet.. I hope this thread was noticed by a GM. Tho its a lower level weapon its still nice to hav a shiny one just like everyother class. I have a character of almost everyclass and i only think its very unfair to the archers..I believe the shiny weapon was imbedded for one to feel good with their weapon , so GMs please fix the archer bug from the supply box if it wasnt intentionally done.. Thank You
Yes, let's make everyone look the same and make it "fair".
Want fair? Go get your HH weapon.0 -
a glow would be nice, though it doesnt actually do anything for you. what does bother me is that the first bow available is nowhere near as good as any of the other weapons i had gotten from NPCs, so to use it would have been a considerable step down in all respects. this was not the case for all the other characters i have- the box weapons were all very good, and even if my character was a higher level than the weapon, it was worth using the new item, because they all seem to have such good stats, despite level.
why the bow is such a bummer, is a mystery to meb:sadTaRo - Dreamweaver wrote: »Not sure if this was purposely done, but the bows from suppy boxes do not glow as does the other class weapons[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Actually, I was very disappointed with my Veno weapon from the box (level 20). It required the same attrib stats as my FB19 weapon but had conciderably less attack points. What's the purpose of even using it? I hope the supplies at future levels are better than that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Actually, I was very disappointed with my Veno weapon from the box (level 20). It required the same attrib stats as my FB19 weapon but had conciderably less attack points. What's the purpose of even using it? I hope the supplies at future levels are better than that.
The Perfect Officer's Magicsword is actually comparable to the Trial Pataka.
For nothing more than openning a box.
No clearing an instance, no killing Rend Razorjaw.
Just open a box, and get the sword.
On the stats.
The magic range on the sword is shorter, and the average should come out to just about the same average as the Trial Pataka.
The pataka has higher high end damage, but it also has much lower low end damage. The pataka, while getting two sockets, is only a level four weapon, while the sword is a level 5 weapon, only having 1 socket. This means you can gain +24 magic attack on the pataka as opposed to only +16 with the sword, a difference of 8 magic attack which is extremely minor.
Oh, and the magic sword has nearly identical stats to a two star Taoist Master's Sword meaning either weapon will get you into the mid-30s before needing to be replaced.Crucifix - Harshlands wrote: »Yes, let's make everyone look the same and make it "fair".
Want fair? Go get your HH weapon.
Considering the weapons are for level 20 characters, your comment is uncalled for.
Also, considering the other weapons do have a bluish glow, then the bow should as well if only for consistency.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Actually, I was very disappointed with my Veno weapon from the box (level 20). It required the same attrib stats as my FB19 weapon but had conciderably less attack points. What's the purpose of even using it? I hope the supplies at future levels are better than that.
Umm... obviously you didn't notice the attack rate...
Your FB19 weapon has an attack rate of 1/s, the attack rate of the Supply Box weapon is 1.25/s.0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Umm... obviously you didn't notice the attack rate...
Your FB19 weapon has an attack rate of 1/s, the attack rate of the Supply Box weapon is 1.25/s.
I'm pretty sure attack rate doesn't matter with magic weapons.Signatures are for fat, weak, obnoxious little doodyheads who sit on forums all day and think that the collection of pixels at the bottom of their typed idiocies properly perpetuates the minute details of their personalities to fellow forum-ers.
That being said, this is my signature.0 -
nocturnalbastard wrote: »Umm... obviously you didn't notice the attack rate...
Your FB19 weapon has an attack rate of 1/s, the attack rate of the Supply Box weapon is 1.25/s.
b:chuckle
maybe if you're foxform0 -
MetallicFoo - Sanctuary wrote: »I'm pretty sure attack rate doesn't matter with magic weapons.
mbrunestud is right. I always make sure that mine has the 1.25/s speed on it. Makes things so much easier.0 -
I gotta LOL at the serious responses to my post. No real answers were given at all. That takes talent, guys. Wow.
I was thinking about this. The only realistic use for this specific weapon at that specific level is for people who haven't done FB19 even at level 20. The only useful reason why that would matter is if a server is totally new and no high-level players are available for FB19. So... they put that weapon in the game simply for that one very rare reason. Nice job, devs. You know, it would have been much more useful if the requirements had been lower (for those people who don't quite have their stats high enough for the FB19 weapon).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »I gotta LOL at the serious responses to my post. No real answers were given at all. That takes talent, guys. Wow.
I was thinking about this. The only realistic use for this specific weapon at that specific level is for people who haven't done FB19 even at level 20. The only useful reason why that would matter is if a server is totally new and no high-level players are available for FB19. So... they put that weapon in the game simply for that one very rare reason. Nice job, devs. You know, it would have been much more useful if the requirements had been lower (for those people who don't quite have their stats high enough for the FB19 weapon).
Well, in all fairness, some people don't have high levels bash through their FB's for them. I helped a friend do his FB19 at 23 while I was 25, with a 21 Veno. Having those weapons for our FB? That would have been a great thing to have. Sure would have kept us from running around like scared children after Rend ate our pets due to lack of healing... But then again... That's the reason I remember that run... *shrugs*0 -
only 3 star weapons or any star armour with 2+ g5+ stones and green weps +gold weps or orange weps are the only items in game that glowb:surrender0
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To further the discussion on the Supply vs Trial weapons, I'm pretty sure that the Supply weapon is better than the Wizard/Cleric Trial wand. It's been a long time since I've been a level 20 Wiz, but I don't recall it being that good. I KNOW the Veno pataka is considerably better, since it reduces phys. damage by 1%. Trial wand doesn't get anything like that.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Well, you made a good point. I still don't see why they made the requirements just as high as the FB19 weapon when it doesn't do nearly as much. That's just silly.Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »Well, in all fairness, some people don't have high levels bash through their FB's for them. I helped a friend do his FB19 at 23 while I was 25, with a 21 Veno. Having those weapons for our FB? That would have been a great thing to have. Sure would have kept us from running around like scared children after Rend ate our pets due to lack of healing... But then again... That's the reason I remember that run... *shrugs*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Well, you made a good point. I still don't see why they made the requirements just as high as the FB19 weapon when it doesn't do nearly as much. That's just silly.Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »I gotta LOL at the serious responses to my post. No real answers were given at all. That takes talent, guys. Wow
What takes talent is to say that when that's actually not true.
2-star Taoist Master's Sword, level 24 Magic Weapon
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/4851
2-star Bloodcursed Wand, level 27 Magic Weapon
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/4867
If you only simply skim the stats of those two weapons you should be able to figure out what weapons were based on them.
As to the stat requirements on the sword from the box and the trial pataka, which I'm surprised you're even complaining about, are nearly identical. The sword requires 60 Int and 14 Str, while the pataka requires 59 Int and 15 Str. Your complaint is about 1 point being shifted from str to int on a Caster Weapon probably aimed at wizards?
All three magic weapons have very similar magic damage ranges. I would go so far as to say that the magic sword from the supply box would last well into the 30s before needing to be replaced. I will go further and say a 2-star Bloodcursed Wand is better than the Trial Pataka.
Let me put it another way:
The magic range on the Trial Pataka has the lowest potential damage, the highest potential damage, and the largest damage damage range.
The magic range on the Perfect Officers Sword has the second lowest potential damage, the second highest damage, and the second largest damage range.
The magic range on the Trial Wand has the highest low end damage, the lowest high end damage, and the smallest damage range.
The average magic damage on all three should be very similar with the Trial Wand having the stablest damage, and the pataka having the most erratic damage while having the highest potential damage. I refer you to the difference between Dual Hammers and Dual Axes and the dilemma it causes: what do you want? Higher spike damage with more low end attacks, or more stable damage with fewer low end attacks, and lower spike damage?
As far as physical damage goes, the Perfect Officer's Sword will outperform both the Trial Pataka by a wide margin when simply melee attacking; however, the Trial Pataka will outperform the Sword when using Fox Form Skills due to it's shorter damage range, and higher average per attack.
By the way, I'm simply elaborating on what I posted earlier.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Uhh... that doesn't even look like the same sword. Do you have screenies of the actual supply box sword's stats? I no longer have mine, so I can't provide that. However, I do have the FB19 weapon.OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »2-star Taoist Master's Sword, level 24 Magic Weapon
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/4851
2-star Bloodcursed Wand, level 27 Magic Weapon
http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/4867
If you only simply skim the stats of those two weapons you should be able to figure out what weapons were based on them.
Honestly, I just don't care anymore since I've moved on. I'm just sick of the lame problems designed into PW by the devs. This is just my most recent complaint. They give us something new and cool and I find a problem. Big surprise.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
FoxRunning - Heavens Tear wrote: »a glow would be nice, though it doesnt actually do anything for you. what does bother me is that the first bow available is nowhere near as good as any of the other weapons i had gotten from NPCs, so to use it would have been a considerable step down in all respects. this was not the case for all the other characters i have- the box weapons were all very good, and even if my character was a higher level than the weapon, it was worth using the new item, because they all seem to have such good stats, despite level.
why the bow is such a bummer, is a mystery to meb:sad
the thing i hate even more is i went our and bought myself a very nice Wheel of Fate about a week or so ago. . and well honestly. . I'm a little mad because this new weapon you get is a good million dollars less and basically has equal stats
im already noticing its driving down the prices of wheels big time. . b:cry0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Uhh... that doesn't even look like the same sword. Do you have screenies of the actual supply box sword's stats? I no longer have mine, so I can't provide that. However, I do have the FB19 weapon.
Honestly, I just don't care anymore since I've moved on. I'm just sick of the lame problems designed into PW by the devs. This is just my most recent complaint. They give us something new and cool and I find a problem. Big surprise.
it's a free game kiddo, quit complaining, seriously
from what i have seen they have been more then grateful to all of us, with the amount of contact and yet still the genie system and an expansion next fall/winter coming out
im more then happy with this gameb:victory0 -
Another question; why the **** does the first ax/hr wep have a GREEN NAME? Has honestly noone but me noticed?
and what the hell happened to this topic? were talking about MGAIC SWORDS when the topic is about archers, anyways, I have another complaint bout the archer ones. The 50 one looks the exact same as the 42 bow, while the mage looks like hh80, and the hammers are completely new, like wtf? It's great and all but it would be 10x better if it looked half decent..Wonhalt0 -
Sure, it's a free game that has made a lot of money off of over-priced cash shop items and publishing liscenses with unhappy companies that got swindled. Don't get me started on this issue. I was around when PW-MY launched its open beta. I've heard that whole free game defense way too much. (BTW, I'm not a kid.)ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary wrote: »it's a free game kiddo, quit complaining, seriously
from what i have seen they have been more then grateful to all of us, with the amount of contact and yet still the genie system and an expansion next fall/winter coming out
im more then happy with this gameb:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Sure, it's a free game that has made a lot of money off of over-priced cash shop items and publishing liscenses with unhappy companies that got swindled. Don't get me started on this issue. I was around when PW-MY launched. I've heard that whole free game defense way too much. (BTW, I'm not a kid.)
alright, you have been there since the begging, you should be even more grateful. Just think about the money you have saved playing over this, then let's say, WOW for instance
I choose to not pay attention to boutique item costs because i normally don't by them, I don't pay attention to what the company as a whole is doing, I don't care
I just play the game and have fun, It's what everyone should do
I'm very grateful for all the people who put money into the game, too show my support someday I will as well0 -
I'll end the debate here. If you opened your eyes to their BS you'd be shocked and not so grateful. Such naive views usually lead to trouble.ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary wrote: »alright, you have been there since the begging, you should be even more grateful. Just think about the money you have saved playing over this, then let's say, WOW for instance
I choose to not pay attention to boutique item costs because i normally don't by them, I don't pay attention to what the company as a whole is doing, I don't care
I just play the game and have fun, It's what everyone should do
I'm very grateful for all the people who put money into the game, too show my support someday I will as well[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »Uhh... that doesn't even look like the same sword. Do you have screenies of the actual supply box sword's stats? I no longer have mine, so I can't provide that. However, I do have the FB19 weapon.
Honestly, I just don't care anymore since I've moved on. I'm just sick of the lame problems designed into PW by the devs. This is just my most recent complaint. They give us something new and cool and I find a problem. Big surprise.
It doesn't have to look like the same sword to have the same stats, and I'm telling you that aside from the one from the supply box being a level 5 sword, that stat wise (attack rate, m. attack, p. attack) they are identical, and in keeping with the other level 20 weapons, the stat reqs were dropped.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »I gotta LOL at the serious responses to my post. No real answers were given at all. That takes talent, guys. Wow.
I was thinking about this. The only realistic use for this specific weapon at that specific level is for people who haven't done FB19 even at level 20. The only useful reason why that would matter is if a server is totally new and no high-level players are available for FB19. So... they put that weapon in the game simply for that one very rare reason. Nice job, devs. You know, it would have been much more useful if the requirements had been lower (for those people who don't quite have their stats high enough for the FB19 weapon).
read the post after yours where lazers told you how the average damage of trial pataka and the officer's sword ends up being the same and its just that the pataka has a greater damage range. the whole point of making it available is to give players choice. maybe players are bored of seeing trial patakas everywhere at lvl 20-30. that should have answered your question right there.0 -
I'm sorry for the ridiculous trouble I caused. I've just had a bad day. I was too frustrated with real life to pay close attention to Lazerz' post. You do have a good point, but I think the much higher max attack makes the FB19 weapon worth more than the sword. That's why I think the sword should have a lower requirement. It could help out those people who don't have their stats up high enough for the FB19 weapon during those few levels after 19. BTW, being a level 5 weapon only helps those people who have rich alt chars and can afford level 5 stones. How does it help the newbies? PW-CN is always falling short of doing good stuff whether its game content, events, or updates for their other publishers (Cubinet & GamesMasters).[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Baraya - Dreamweaver wrote: »I'm sorry for the ridiculous trouble I caused. I've just had a bad day. I was too frustrated with real life to pay close attention to Lazerz' post. You do have a good point, but I think the much higher max attack makes the FB19 weapon worth more than the sword. That's why I think the sword should have a lower requirement. It could help out those people who don't have their stats up high enough for the FB19 weapon during those few levels after 19. BTW, being a level 5 weapon only helps those people who have rich alt chars and can afford level 5 stones. How does it help the newbies? PW-CN is always falling short of doing good stuff whether its game content, events, or updates for their other publishers (Cubinet & GamesMasters).
They cannot lower them further since they already lowered the Int reqs by 6%/17%/24% from 64/72/79 to 60.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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