pole or sword
RyuGem - Sanctuary
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which do u reccomend pole or sword build? dnt say cuz i dnt wana be axe
also do duel and single sword put same stats?
also do duel and single sword put same stats?
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IMHO i say pole...why pole? well for one pole skills do more damage,as does the pole itself.
they are also fast too(i think a bit faster than swords also). they have some cool range on them too(really good for hitting those kiters). They also have a pretty good AOE im told. so yea, i say poles, but wat ever floats ur boat captain skipper....you decide for ur self.ATTENTION ALL: I would just like you to know....I has fleas.0 -
RyuGem - Sanctuary wrote: »which do u reccomend pole or sword build? dnt say cuz i dnt wana be axe
also do duel and single sword put same stats?
^ I dont need to explain Pole weapons.
But, as a counter-arguement, If u want to have the biggest raw damage output for a single enemy, go with sword.0 -
Okay, personally I am a sword BM. As what Dunergo say, Pole for bleeding and sometimes a little AOE dmging too. Swords for single mobs damage.
For blades, no matter what you use, the stats added are the same. However, vit would require you to cap it around 50. I cap it at 50 but I have friends who cap it at 40. So is up to you. I dont know about polearm but for blades, Dual swords/Blade are more for skilling which means you spam skills. For single sword/blade, is more for normal attacks due to the fast attacks. However, I use dual blades and only use my skills occasionally( am a poor person cant afford pots or anything lol) So is up to you to decide.
Although many people would suggest you go with polearm cause axes and polearms lvl faster at later lvls but is really depending on what you like to play. If you ask for my opinion, I would suggest swords cause I am one myself and I rarely see them around. Lol
OTHER BMS DONT FLAME ME( I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT TO BUT DONT) MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, I LOVE BLADES!!!0 -
Nope no flaming from my side since I'm Sword path myself. i don't know does the path itself rule but it's adequate and after I got a hold of Legendary Lunar Cutlass that some good fellow have upgraded to +5 and it hits really good... well looks like I'm gonna continue the path.0
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Guys, dont waste your time recomending any weapon other than Axes or pole.
Aparently, we all have to play with those. Otherwise we suck.
I will continue with sword and fists.0 -
hehe well no harm trying you know? Many people feel that sword sucks and all but well is them. I can try to make people go with sword and still feel it is fun?0
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Let me put it this way... If you want to **** a SINGLE target, go with sword.0
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even if you like blade(-s) youll have to use both.0
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I prefer running a dual build with axes, and swords the axes do very well for leveling with AoE's and the sword allows me good single target damage for pvp.
balancing the stats for axes and swords in a dual build is interesting (I still have the standard 50 vit but will probably get more as I level to become harder to kill in pvp).
There are skills in every tree which are useful so dont feel you have to limit yourself to just one path, branch out and try out the whole blademaster experience.0 -
My suggestion is this.
Stat yourself to use swords, and poles. IF your die hard against the axe tree then don't stat the extra strength for it. But if you want to leave your options open for down the road you might want to think about stating for it eventually down the road. Plan your build.
If you want to start the stating now:
6str 3dex 1 ???/vit maybe, this build will allow you to use the best axes and swords for your level. (leaving you the option to change your mind at anytime. Options are good.)
If there is one thing I am learning about BM's is that we have some really good skills. They are just broken up. I already see so many combo possibilities down the road. If your plan on taking your BM to the end game levels. You will want most of your options open.
I have specialized in the axe path skills. And started using a Sword every now and then. Funny thing is I will have my TT70 sword before my axes. So I will be using it more for awhile(until i get my axes..then I will see where I am at after that) especially for taking on mobs 1v1 and my axes for for grinding and ultimate effect.
Eventually I will get a spear for meteor rush and farstrike, I see the spear as a great weapon against pesky air mobs, and perhaps a combo combining spear path ultimate and axe path ultimate in some way, 3rd spark FTW.
Right now the only skill I am going to buy up in Sword path is mastery and perhaps getting the hard hitting push back skill(Atmos Strike). First though I will get mastery. And see where I am at after that. I open with Aelion Blade as it is, the push back from atmos is what I will be looking at. And the spear has a mass push back skill....so I am really trying to figure out how to get a good spear in my inventory. Right now I use stuns to protect party members from mobs. But a mass push back skill could give me another edge. As well as the single...argh..the decisions......Anyways, priority will always be my Axe skills and my stuns until they are maxed.Retired
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Yeah I do not want to limit myself to only one path and I know right now that I cannot go with fist path anymore cause my str is pretty high. So, I was thinking of going with axes but I only like a couple of their skills and so my main weapon is still going to be sword. I am going to restat my vit which is cap at 50 to a much lower vitality just like a clan member. He has a pretty weird build cause he is a axe/sword BM and he has his vit at 15 and although many say he cant tank really well but he is doing fine. I am thinking of going axe cause of the sweet skill effects lol and I love the looks of dual axe. I love the look of the Dual blades too but I just dont like the pole lol. So yeah is up to you to decide cause when I lvl, currently axe build is just too costly for me according to what the others say( spamming aoe skills to grind faster) yeah.0
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I have to agree with most of the posters here. As a BM's you can open up a lot of skills for a lot of different purposes. Sword, I agree rocks for 1v1, skills are a little lacking, but the ultimate(myriad sword) FTW. Axes are great for multiple mobs and Fb runs. Spears give you range that you lack with all the other branches and give you bleeds, which are way underated as far as I am concerned.
Even though I never used Fists so much, Shadowless kick cancels spells, and that can be used just by un-equiping your weapon.
So, best bet is to keep your options open and really read all the possible skills available to you. As you play and begin to learn how your gonna play, there is a good chance you will not keep yourself locked into one path.
Good luckDon't let my level confuse you. I've done this before.
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AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear wrote: »My suggestion is this.
perhaps getting the hard hitting push back skill(Atmos Strike). First though I will get mastery. And see where I am at after that. I open with Aelion Blade as it is, the push back from atmos is what I will be looking at. .
I'm playing a new trick with Atmos.
I knock back the mob, switch to bow and when the mob is back at me I repeat the process. Really fun.
You can use the other range skills rather than the bow (spirit chaser or drake ray)0 -
build with 3 str 2 dex on evens and 2 str 2 vit 1 dex on odds and you can use both spear and sword...0
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Polearm.
You are able to damage a single target as much (and even better) than Sword, but you are not limited to only this kind of attacks, since you are able to AoE grind like Axes (not as good though) making your life much easier and efficient with a faster grinding.0 -
Lyndura - Lost City wrote: »Polearm.
You are able to damage a single target as much (and even better) than Sword, but you are not limited to only this kind of attacks, since you are able to AoE grind like Axes (not as good though) making your life much easier and efficient with a faster grinding.
I agree with that, although I do have a question, how do I AoE grind with my pole against (partially) magical mobs?0 -
I agree with that, although I do have a question, how do I AoE grind with my pole against (partially) magical mobs?
Don't do it you will die. It will be insane charm/pot burn and you're pretty much done for after the 5th one. The death knights may be an exception to this, but you don't want to try grinding on mixed mag/melee mobs.0 -
Everyone should listen to Lyndura. Drop those damn blades. Get axes as its your best choice or pole if you wanna sort of stand out of the crowd. Blades are for fail noob BMs. b:bye0
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Axioma - Harshlands wrote: »Everyone should listen to Lyndura.
I know Lyndura is your god. I'm a infidelb:angry0 -
With the build: 5str, 4dex, 1vit per two levels, I use both. I'm focusing swords for low levels but when I get higher I'm planning on having both skill trees leveled and swapping out weapons for the situations that arise.0
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Axioma - Harshlands wrote: »Everyone should listen to Lyndura. Drop those damn blades. Get axes as its your best choice or pole if you wanna sort of stand out of the crowd. Blades are for fail noob BMs. b:bye
uhoh the level 12 hath spoken b:surrender
Sword/blades ****, I'm about to be 61 and have a +5 illusive lunar cutlass, w/ 2 immaculate garnets. I think Swords just might take a little more skill and understanding the class a lil more ;D0 -
Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »Guys, dont waste your time recomending any weapon other than Axes or pole.
Aparently, we all have to play with those. Otherwise we suck.
I will continue with sword and fists.
lol duel axe vs. fist = fists won
from experience anyhow I dont know how many people make their conclusions based on experience and not just mathematical calculation but it has been said " when someone who knows everything about something will get a different experience when it happens to them " so basically you can have all the mathematics and all the assumed statistics but once you go in and do it yourself your outcome is sure to be different.
for me personally axes are nothing compared to fists/claws.
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im a blade BM well grinding is hard for us but we rule in duel's
i went dex build more evasion and accuracy rarely miss aginst archer with dex build is 50% to 50% win lose crit will own for both aginst BM or barb dex BM always win aginst arcane if u know how to use ur skill's u can kill well last thing is a veno in pvp veno die easly like TW or w/e in dule hmm hard have to figure a way to win aginst them cuz dex BM lack vit im lvl90 and have only 4800 HP well Blades r way faster accurate deal damage way faster and stronger so Blade is my choise+fist as a 2ed wep XD[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]THE BIRD OF THE HERMES IS MY NAME EATING MY WINGS TO MAKE ME TAME0 -
dont use swords. no aoe grinding with swords and no pvp with swords. go spear or axe0
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DEATHJOKER - Heavens Tear wrote: »im a blade BM well grinding is hard for us but we rule in duel's
i went dex build more evasion and accuracy rarely miss aginst archer with dex build is 50% to 50% win lose crit will own for both aginst BM or barb dex BM always win aginst arcane if u know how to use ur skill's u can kill well last thing is a veno in pvp veno die easly like TW or w/e in dule hmm hard have to figure a way to win aginst them cuz dex BM lack vit im lvl90 and have only 4800 HP well Blades r way faster accurate deal damage way faster and stronger so Blade is my choise+fist as a 2ed wep XD
Wow.
You are pretty much a one-shot.
Anyways, people:
1.- Who are low level.
2.- Who have never played a Heaven/Hell Blademaster.
3.- Who have never used all the weapons in equal conditions (meaning maxed skills, berserker weapon, same refinement shards).
Just have a biased perspective and opinion about things.0 -
Okay I am a pure sword BM all the way to lvl 45 and thats when my vit was capped at 50 and from there, When I feel like it, I add 4 str and 1 dex or I would add 3 str 2 dex. Well, I wouldnt doubt lyndura but I really like blades. Yeah you might think I am stupid or something cause I play it cause I like it. Well I do this moron thing unlike other gamers which is called... THINKING. I dont just lie down and roll over when I am told to. Personally, I finding that axes at the lower lvls are FUGLY. Yeah and spear, dont get me started, they look like some guard running around like an idiot. Anyway, I play it for fun. If you guys just follow the crowd and go axe,pole,axe,pole just cause almost everyone say they are better, then you are no different from dogs. Roll over boy... Anyway, I am a sword BM and you guys are going to FLAME ME( I know once this is out all other BMs would flame me...) However, I like axes at the later lvls and I intend on branching out and meeting the axe minimum requirement for str by giving up on vit.
Do you guys know why I post this kind of comments, cause I am tired of reading all this meaningless post of people arguing who is the better BM. It is never ending cause everyone has different views. Dont you idiots get it? DIFFERENT VIEWS. They read lyndura's guide, she/he adviced on pole or axe. If they dont want to listen to the advice, you guys argue about how fist sucks or axe rocks and **** and try to convince someone to go axe or fist... Guys, I know you feel insecure about your positions and want to get more BMs to your side so you can **** the other BMs up but man get a life. This topic is never-ending. It is just like religion. Christians, Buddhist, Muslims or Catholics are the real gods. NO ONE KNOWS. Even when you say that you proved it with statistics and ****, okay lets take this as a you jerking yourself off... Guys like jerking themselves when they are watching naked females... then the ****? They jerk off while watching guys naked... Is just an analogy(no offence,had to say it or these morons wont get it) So take the minority as people who want it this way and stop commenting. What you want to do? Make the **** become straight? He might just end up jerking you off. Sheesh so stick to posting constructive comments like telling about the good points(unique to your weapon) about your weapon like axe 360 aoe and others dont have that and dont put other weapons down. Is their choice. Dont **** with them.
Lyndura is a believer of contructive comments I believe but recently his/her post have been aiming to put fist and sword BMs down. Well, I cant blame him/her since there are so many morons arguing about the weapon choice... Is just like saying hey christians or buddhist are bull ****... If you are a believer of these religions, is obvious you have to protect your own religion cause you freaking believe in it. Guys, I cant make this any clearer. Just stop the debate and post comments that are more useful to the person looking for the answer....0 -
you guys should relise this game is X-years old so some of the ppl on this forum know what they are talking about when it comes to the diferent wepon path. also a few point id like to make a bout pvp
1. evasion doesnt mean s**t in mass pvp because magic doesn't miss and if you are targeting someone in heavy armor in mass pvp or TW , you fail, aslo most bms past 77 wil have accuracy rings so they won't miss you if the atack you
2. im tired of hearing about how much crit fist have >_>. crit + low dmg = low dmg crit
3. accuracy is dependant on your amount of dex , not your wepon . you guys act like all axe and spear bms miss like a barb.
4. spear pvp build is the same as a sword build and very similar skills so as i see it spears>swords in 1vs1
5.how many of you sword/fist bms have tried axes /spears? ive seen sword bms try axes , then end up becomening axe bms (i did at lv 67 :P)
now i do believe it is up to you what you choose but i had to post this because i felt it was needed0 -
Well, I dont deny that axe and spear BMs are good weapon paths. But dont you guys realise you cant convince all??? YOU CANT CONVINCE EVERYONE!!! Which part of this sentence do you not understand? And those who become axe BMs like I am sword and gonna go both axe and swords later on cause axes deal more dmg and they look good later on the dual axes. I mean you guys read Lyndura's guide,right? So is up to you guys to choose. Lyndura has given almost all the paths of the sword. He gave you the advice and whether you want it depends on you. Other people just stop giving comments on all these. Is useless to comment. I am tired of people going up arguing about oh,axe is better,fist is stupid or sword stinks and pole are better in 1v1. Those who have tested it like past 80 or 90 or whatever, they have given their advice. Want to follow, up to you. Like me, I dont follow any of it and decide to build my own build which is a hybrid. Hybrids usually decide what vit to add. Well, you guys would start flaming saying it is no good but well, it kinda works so I am gonna ignore you guys. The worst part of all these arguments is that sometimes you will see some lvl 10 - 20 noobs giving dumb comments like OMG sword sucks,axe rocks... WTF, serious? They are newbies. And I am tired of people saying that those who give statistics and blah blah blah... LYNDURA ALREADY DID EVERYTHING!!! THE ARGUMENTS ARE ALL THE SAME AS HIS/HER...
I mean it is really useless pointing out the same thing over and over and over and over again when you know that it is not going to work... PISSES ME OFF MAN. Dont post anymore comments on who is better cause Lyndura's guide is already the best around and you guys dont need to comment. The only thing you guys should do is when people ask for advice, advice them on what paths you recommend them to take and why? Meaning like take the axe path cause they are high dmg dealers and also they AOE a lot and grinding is easy. Or sword path cause you like 1v1 and sword is good for 1v1 or fist is fast attkers and the best at 1v1. Something like that. NOT:
Axe is the best cause of AOE and they grind much faster than the OTHER WEAPONS!!! THEY OTHER WEAPONS SUCK YOUR A S S ROAR!!! (This is a little exaggerated but this is what I see when I read the comments) <<< immature and unenlighten.
I gave a really good analogy up there. I am not saying axe sucks and sword rocks or something. My analogy was... imagine this... axe= christians and sword= buddhist( just an analogy,gotta use religion or as i said MORONS wont get it so no offence) Like you dont see anyone NORMAL going around saying BUDDHIST ARE FRAUDS AND CHRISTIANS IS THE TRUTH( something of that sort) cause it would show that you are discriminating and the argument never ends. One last sentence:
STOP THE COMMENTS TO PUT OTHER WEAPONS DOWN CAUSE YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO SUCCEED CAUSE YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYONE <<<< enlightening words. I am just trying to get people to stop this kind of comments!!! ( So dont flame me, I am sick of this kind of ****)...0 -
Edited: must use ten characters. Blah.Retired
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