How do i AoE grind well with a Spear dex BM thx ?

foodlover
foodlover Posts: 5 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Blademaster
Hi Guys, i am a spear dex bm =)

Jus need some and tips help from experience players ^^

Err How do i AoE grind well and efficiently with a Spear BM ? Such wat combo of skills should i use eg. wat skill should i use 1st and wat to follow on next.

I am lev 51 btw, i have capped my Vit at 50 and been adding for every 2 levels 5 Str and 5 Dex, is this dex spear build bad for AoE grinding ?

Wat Build should i go for spear AoE grinding ? Should i add more Vit instead of capping it at 50 ?

Wat gears do u guys recomand oso like eg more Hp stats or Evasion vs PhyDef ?

Wat type of mobs should i grind on cause so far magic magic mobs r too hard as when i lure them they will cast magic att from far which hits HARD lol.

Do u guys use Gold HP and MP chamrs when u AoE grind or jus pots ? They r kinda expensive ^^

Okies guys thanks alot for yr tips and info in advance =D

*Cheers*
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  • Akiratojo - Heavens Tear
    Akiratojo - Heavens Tear Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Okay, I will start with the skills. You shoould have the level 39 AOE, this is what you are going to use (well until you get glacial spike at 59).
    The 39 skill is not the best, but it works somewaht, don't really bother with farstrike, because it attacks in a straight line, you can use it if you havetime to spare, but it's not ideal.
    I don't have too much experiance as a Pole BM, but I can tell you about the charms and such.

    I do use charms always, 450k , as an axe BM I rely hevely on HP charms, and MP charms as well. I use berserk axes, and they take off 5% HT per each berserker activate, and getting hit by mobs, MP charms help a lot as well, due to the fast recharge time of BM skills, This allows me to spam them indefiitely without consuming a single MP pot. Basically charms allow you to keep going without stopping.

    About HP cap, there are a lot of topics asking this question, but as a quick recap, HP is not worth the points that go into it. At 15/HP per vit, you are not gaining much, especialy if you want to keep up with requirements and be good at PVP. If you are on a PVP server, you should not focus on VIT, due to the reduced damage, your damage output is what matters, the ammount of criticals you can do is essentical, since most likely your oppinent will have charms. If you are on a PVE server, it's all about surviving, and HP helps out, so you shouldnt cap your vit at 50 IMO, you should keep going.
    But these are only suggestions, YMWV, Hope that helps
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  • AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear
    AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,413 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The best thing to do is ready Lyns guide. Or ask her for help about aoe'ing with spears. She is a spear user. But you would have to line up your mobs in front of you so you can use your linear aoe's you'll need them in order to keep aoe'ing. Anyways take a look at the stickied guide. It should help you out.

    And to correct above poster. A BM gets 15HP per point of vit. Just so everyone has the correct information.
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  • Nevlik - Heavens Tear
    Nevlik - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    farstrike is not an aoe, piercing winds, and meteor rush are.

    Piercing winds is not too useful in aoe, but meteor rush is definately teh key to spear bm aoe
  • xerom
    xerom Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I'm a lvl 83 spear user.

    2 ways to AOE grind

    1 is with a cleric, cleric hovers and you lure and then AOE this is the cheapest and best way to aoe grind
    2. is without a cleric but still the same thing

    Lure 1: throw up altar marrow phyiscal then lure mobs with drake sweep when you've got what you wanted for mobs normally with a spear user/cleric combo you can lure up to about 40-50 mobs without about 20 mobs. start with spike which drops thier def, drake sweep, move 3 steps in 1 direction fan, then meteor rush. by the time all the mobs walk back to you your drake sweep should of cooled down then fan, and then meteor rush again since meteor rush has a fast cool down and repeat for as long as you need to.

    Lure 2: when your doing it single. altar marrow physical, lure mobs with sweep then meteor rush drake sweep then move then fan then meteor rush

    I personally think Spear BMs can AOE grind more mobs then Axe since meteor rush push mobs back giving your charm time to tick or a cleric to heal you. I think Axe might kill mobs faster though. Not an Axe user so not sure how fast they kill mobs. Kill rate for me takes 2 mins to lure 40 mobs and to about 2-3 rounds of meteor rush/drake sweep/fan to kill them and thats lvl 80 pirates thats with a cleric following me and when I'm solo it takes me about 30 seconds to lure about 15-20 and and the same 2-3 rounds of AOE to kill them

    Hope this helps
  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    About HP cap, there are a lot of topics asking this question, but as a quick recap, HP is not worth the points that go into it. At 15/HP per vit, you are not gaining much, especialy if you want to keep up with requirements and be good at PVP. If you are on a PVP server, you should not focus on VIT, due to the reduced damage, your damage output is what matters, the ammount of criticals you can do is essentical, since most likely your oppinent will have charms. If you are on a PVE server, it's all about surviving, and HP helps out, so you shouldnt cap your vit at 50 IMO, you should keep going.
    But these are only suggestions, YMWV, Hope that helps

    Wait, what? You honestly saying; having low HP, and being 1 shotted by the lv95+ wiz/clerics/archers is the way to go?
  • unoxx
    unoxx Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    xerom wrote: »
    I'm a lvl 83 spear user.

    2 ways to AOE grind

    1 is with a cleric, cleric hovers and you lure and then AOE this is the cheapest and best way to aoe grind
    2. is without a cleric but still the same thing

    Lure 1: throw up altar marrow phyiscal then lure mobs with drake sweep when you've got what you wanted for mobs normally with a spear user/cleric combo you can lure up to about 40-50 mobs without about 20 mobs. start with spike which drops thier def, drake sweep, move 3 steps in 1 direction fan, then meteor rush. by the time all the mobs walk back to you your drake sweep should of cooled down then fan, and then meteor rush again since meteor rush has a fast cool down and repeat for as long as you need to.

    Lure 2: when your doing it single. altar marrow physical, lure mobs with sweep then meteor rush drake sweep then move then fan then meteor rush

    I personally think Spear BMs can AOE grind more mobs then Axe since meteor rush push mobs back giving your charm time to tick or a cleric to heal you. I think Axe might kill mobs faster though. Not an Axe user so not sure how fast they kill mobs. Kill rate for me takes 2 mins to lure 40 mobs and to about 2-3 rounds of meteor rush/drake sweep/fan to kill them and thats lvl 80 pirates thats with a cleric following me and when I'm solo it takes me about 30 seconds to lure about 15-20 and and the same 2-3 rounds of AOE to kill them

    Hope this helps

    Ok, this sounds rly great, but just HOW do I gather 40 mobs? And what mobs? They cant be magic, cause using meteor rush will basically kill you then.... Im lvl 65 btw
  • AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear
    AdvanceZero - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,413 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    unoxx wrote: »
    Ok, this sounds rly great, but just HOW do I gather 40 mobs? And what mobs? They cant be magic, cause using meteor rush will basically kill you then.... Im lvl 65 btw

    At your level thieves east of Sanctuary are your best bet. (level 72 pure physical mobs) And experiment with how many mobs you can take on. Start with 5 and move up if you are solo. If you're with a cleric start with like 10 and move up...you will figure out how many you can take.
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  • Uiztrollin - Harshlands
    Uiztrollin - Harshlands Posts: 358 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Wait, what? You honestly saying; having low HP, and being 1 shotted by the lv95+ wiz/clerics/archers is the way to go?

    Wiz/Clerics start owning at pvp after 90+ I wouldn't be surprised if they 1shot a BM even with vit.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/Potamic/PerfectWorld/morepew.jpg

    that screen shows a 8x mage 2 shotting a 8x barb. a BM would have less HP than that. If the BM gets hit from behind like that it would be dead no matter what his build is. No time to even cast marrow.

    I rather put my points into dex to actually have a chance to hit archers, and get the most from misties.
  • Alahandra - Harshlands
    Alahandra - Harshlands Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Alter Marrow Magic. +120% MDef goes a long way.

    Then, most Blademasters I see are too stupid to use it, so never mind.
  • Nevlik - Heavens Tear
    Nevlik - Heavens Tear Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    lvl 10 magic marrow is not great, it gives great magical def, but you will be a sitting duck. in fact I wouldn't even use it near cleric or wizard either. if they learn you have a lvl 10 magic marrow , it's plume shot, razor feathers, or blade tempest, and death.

    which is why I have lvl 4 (60%), which only cancels out my golden bell buff.