Tired of all the Wizards Suck Threads

No flames. Wizzy's are the most fun. Most of the wizzy whines are cause they have a tough time pre-6x and then are substandard PvP until 8x. Don't tell anyone though! Wizzy propaganda machine wants us to be the heroic underdogs!

Arteg - Sanctuary wrote: »

For the "Wizard challenge", play your cleric/veno and just don't buff,heal or call your pet for a week, then you can go back to playing the game afterwards.

cleric and veno do not have WoP, FoW, blink, sutra and undine strike, so it'll be a bit... masohistic making wannabe-wiz of them

Yeah, wizard sucks, it's fact.

Arteg - Sanctuary wrote: »

Maybe there's so many "Wizards suck" threads because (get this...) they suck!

And I've never understood the challenging/fun argument. Is it denial? You can still have fun playing an un-gimped class. For a challenge, play a barb -- it's tough, costs are high, you're slow to kill enemies without help...but you're very useful and good at what you do: tank. For the "Wizard challenge", play your cleric/veno and just don't buff,heal or call your pet for a week, then you can go back to playing the game afterwards. For the full wizard experience, tell your buddies you're not gonna use a pet or heal and try to get in a TT run.

Fun times...

So why are you playing a wiz? What are your personal motivations?

To the wizard haters, stfu.
I primarily play my BM and Veno characters, but also have a cleric, barb, and archer. I just started a wizard character recently, and although still low level, I have to say, it is a very cool class. I love it!

Yeah, it has its challenges, but if you take the time to look around, there are some very successful, and very powerful high level mages out there. Maybe the people who say wiz's suck don't have the skills or patience to develop the playing style needed to succeed.

Zhoelle - Sanctuary wrote: »

To the wizard haters, stfu.
I primarily play my BM and Veno characters, but also have a cleric, barb, and archer. I just started a wizard character recently, and although still low level, I have to say, it is a very cool class. I love it!

Yeah, it has its challenges, but if you take the time to look around, there are some very successful, and very powerful high level mages out there. Maybe the people who say wiz's suck don't have the skills or patience to develop the playing style needed to succeed.

Ever thought of the fact that other classes have it much easier? Getting into FBs and HHs more easily, being easier to play in pvp, easier exp gain, being useful in parties, etc. Pretty much every class has something they're good at, EXCEPT wizards, they're just mid-rate at best all over the board. THAT is why they suck. Talk about this end-game **** all you want, you still suck for the majority of your levels and regardless of your level a veno with a phoenix will roll your sorry **** in most cases with far less effort.

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Ever thought of the fact that other classes have it much easier? Getting into FBs and HHs more easily, being easier to play in pvp, easier exp gain, being useful in parties, etc. Pretty much every class has something they're good at, EXCEPT wizards, they're just mid-rate at best all over the board. THAT is why they suck. Talk about this end-game **** all you want, you still suck for the majority of your levels and regardless of your level a veno with a phoenix will roll your sorry **** in most cases with far less effort.

So why are you playing a wiz? What are your personal motivations?

does anyone love me? b:bye

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

Pretty much every class has something they're good at, EXCEPT wizards, they're just most powerful damage dealers.

FIXED.
(10 wizards)

Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »

If you ignore the fact that an archer can take off 16% HP with the first shot (Sharpened Tooth Arrow), and that an archer 5 levels lower than you probably does more damage per second than you do.

I can't agree. depends on mobs. Last night there were 2 venos and me at Ultrafin Spot. I killed on par with them and most of the time the kill ration was 3/2 for me. Like me, both of them were on Eso

And if you consider costs, wizards are even more screwed. Archers use 1 arrow per shot, Wizards use 50-100k MP for the average challenging boss.

100k MP? come on. Never used more than 20-30k MP in fb51 , and that was the longest/hardest I did until now. fb59 is a joke, as are the bosses in the "world". Maybe if u solo them then yeah, u get to that 100k/boss.
Or if u're lvl 80 or something when u need to kill 3 mil HP boss.
There is that magic thing called Appothecary, u can make some 100mp/sec x 10 minutes with 25 herbs. That's 60k MP at the cost of about 15-20k if u buy or free if u farm. beside that there are thos things that are even cheaper, 6000mp restore in 30 secs or something.

yeah, if u always buy stuff from shop, wizz is expensive, but so is every other class

wizards suck - almost 100 wizard

Try getting to 70 and do a boss in the same party as an equally equipped lv70 archer and let him spam normal shots. Then tell the barb to kill himself and see which damage dealer the boss will go for.


Realistic situation? No. But it's still true that at higher levels, your damage is far from the best. Same for your usefulness. Archers have an evasion/movement speed buff, Sharp Tooth Arrow and are far cheaper to do runs with, along with the higher DPS in general. And no, archers are not expensive. 10k arrows = 20k. You won't need any pots in some runs. Repair costs are pretty much equal.


And lol, I said 100k MP on the average challenging boss. On a full 1-3 or higher TT run, you'll easily go through more than that, especially if the party doesn't have other DDs.