nix bug

Eriestrength - Sanctuary
Eriestrength - Sanctuary Posts: 410 Arc User
edited April 2009 in General Discussion
is it only bugged in pvp or does it do it in pve as well?
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  • Eriestrength - Sanctuary
    Eriestrength - Sanctuary Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    anyone know?
  • Walterthewf - Harshlands
    Walterthewf - Harshlands Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Bleed damage does PvE damage in PvP, its not reduced.

    So no change in PvE.


    To my knowledge
  • Eriestrength - Sanctuary
    Eriestrength - Sanctuary Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Bleed damage does PvE damage in PvP, its not reduced.

    So no change in PvE.


    To my knowledge

    so its bugged in pve as well then. hmm ty for that info
  • Vulpix - Lost City
    Vulpix - Lost City Posts: 533 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    no, it's not bugged in PvE.
    It does regular damage.

    In PvP there is damage reduction of some sort, except for flesh realm (the actual bug, not the phoenix itself) which suffers no reduction
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    TY _Bloody_Fox_ for the sig ^_^
    I think venomancers are a pretty cool guy, eh mances the venom and doesn't afraid of anything.
  • Eliathel - Lost City
    Eliathel - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    ITS THE SKILL! Not the nix. Problem is that base damage of nix is high like hell, just that, then bleed takes a lot of hp, but a Sawfly with bleed does the same bugged damage.
    I HATE NIX! Venos needs to regain respect again. And those who respect venos with nixs... well...
  • Nubble - Heavens Tear
    Nubble - Heavens Tear Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    just leave venos and their nixes alone b:thanks
  • meritor
    meritor Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    just leave venos and their nixes alone b:thanks

    Yeah Veno's need a chance, even with Nix they can't PvP - thats why the level 70+ ones wait inside Secret Passage to PK people who have just turned level 30 and probbably dont even know how to turn on PvP mode b:angry
  • vampirenite
    vampirenite Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Why does everyone call it a bug??? It may well have been an intended feature by the devs to give Venos a better chance in PvP if they are willing to fork out a ton of coin or Gold to get it. Yeah, yeah I have heard all the arguments that no other class have non-reduced damage in PvP but that does not change the fact that it could have been an intended exception.

    It is like saying the Archer is bugged for PvP. Nerf the Archer too then because the devs overpowered them for PvP!
  • meritor
    meritor Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It is like saying the Archer is bugged for PvP. Nerf the Archer too then because the devs overpowered them for PvP!

    Archer already has enough of his skills useless for PvP tbh
  • Osiris - Dreamweaver
    Osiris - Dreamweaver Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It is like saying the Archer is bugged for PvP. Nerf the Archer too then because the devs overpowered them for PvP!

    Nope, its not, because archers don't bypass an universal PvP system for doing high damage.

    EDIT:
    Why does everyone call it a bug??? It may well have been an intended feature by the devs to give Venos a better chance in PvP if they are willing to fork out a ton of coin or Gold to get it.

    GMs have already confirmed that it is a bug.
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=1931051&postcount=10
  • Gaho - Sanctuary
    Gaho - Sanctuary Posts: 171 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Only problem I have with venos with legendary pets are the ones who get Hercs.

    They all seem to develope something I've begun to refer to as "Herc stupid" because they seem to assume Herc is god, can tank anything, can pull anything, and also has infinite HP. Therefore making them immortal. I had this happen two four venos that I know; mainly irksome because two of them tried to solo TT1-2 squad high mode with just myself to heal (I was level 50 at the time) we died.....I want to say at least 20 times on dimensnic (next to last boss, i can't spell to save my life :P)

    However never had a problem with the 'nix, even though it's the most broken thing I've ever seen, it's stats are sick. The only bad name I can think of that venos could get from it is in PVP, of which I don't care. The bug does seem incredibly unfair however, and should be fixed.


    yeah yeah tl;dr >.>
  • Eriestrength - Sanctuary
    Eriestrength - Sanctuary Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    just leave venos and their nixes alone b:thanks

    rofl wasnt meant to be a flame thread i was just curious
  • Nubble - Heavens Tear
    Nubble - Heavens Tear Posts: 201 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    rofl wasnt meant to be a flame thread i was just curious

    yea i know..but it gona turn to flame and cry me a veno thread soon or later
    like always :P
  • Eriestrength - Sanctuary
    Eriestrength - Sanctuary Posts: 410 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    yea i know..but it gona turn to flame and cry me a veno thread soon or later
    like always :P

    probly but w/e lmao, not my fault ppl QQ over nix and herc.
  • dieho
    dieho Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    meritor wrote: »
    Archer already has enough of his skills useless for PvP tbh



    heavy users=lightning(unless you are a HL archer then spam serrated arrow and vicious arrow)
    robes=Deadly/Take Aim/Aim Low Just dont use lightning(unless you are a HL archer)
    light=doesnt matter you still do 5x their damage

    why do you need every skill to work good in pvp when 1-2 skills kill everyone?

    besides name 1 skill that is made useless in PVP?
  • dieho
    dieho Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nope, its not, because archers don't bypass an universal PvP system for doing high damage.

    EDIT:



    GMs have already confirmed that it is a bug.

    venos arent bypassing anything the game is coded that way.

    GMs didnt program the game so until a developer says its a design flaw then i'll go with the fact that it hasnt been changed in all the years since this game has been released. even with this so called bug tell me how a veno will be able to stand up to anyone at 10x when people have highly refined gear?
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    archer dots...namely that metal dot ultimate that pops 2 sparks to cast.

    tho i agree archers are pretty versatile. every class has their useless spells honestly

    also, take this little bit from that 8jun mage guide:
    VS WF
    Ah... a special class, a class which is our biggest threat. Before I begin, let me say something, a WF is as good as dead without their pets just like we are as we are without our vigor. So, kill that fu.cking piece of sh.it god damn phoenix first. Earth strike, small water, small earth. usually it is dead. Then, if the wf continue fight u.. congratz, you had won the battle. However, if you are sneaked attacked by a phoenix.. hehe.. dun worry. First reaction, after stun, eat 12 sec invincible medicine. During this time, many wf will debuff, amplify damage, cast magic etc etc. Let them do all they want. If you r lucky and not debuffed yet, upon wake up from 12 sec stun, fury burst (爆元) and kill the phoenix first and then play with the wf. Now, if you are debuffed, and stunned, and bleeding.. first reaction, eat Starlight Talismanic Dew (星光护体) medicine and fury burst (爆元), kill the phoenix. In fighting a wf, it is all about reaction and speed and vigor. Yup, if u dun have 399 vigor, run.. unless it is a noob wf where u can 2 hit the wf while blasting point the phoenix. And, as usual, if you have 399 vigor and you are sneak attacking the wf, use the ultimate combo. Usually phoenix will be dead coz of the mountain press. and i doubt there is a lot of wf that can withstand the combo unless the hp is 15k and magic resist is 14k. Yup.. that is the wf in my server...

    wait a minute...+8 to all armor, +10 to weapon, +5 to all rings, lvl 8 or above hp shards, looks like the nix has plenty of fight against robies.

    but afterall, i can understand that it's very hard to balance this class for both pve and pvp. venos can simultaneously deal damage from 2 sources, while this makes the class exceptionally powerful in pve, gets into balancing issues in pvp when players know to target the veno rather than the pet, or disable the pet. venos are weaker in terms of raw damage output because they have a pet to make up for it, but players get around that in pvp, and when they do, it's easy to think venos might be inferior in pvp. however, you up the veno's damage output or defense, what's going to happen to their pve performance, where venos can once again force mobs to attack their pet? this might have been the devs solution to make the veno more powerful without having to deal with pve imbalances, because flesh ream doing this has no effect in pve. even if it is, players are complaining that it's a suck way to do it. balance discussions would be interesting, with input from unbiased, experienced players who really know how their class performs in both pve and pvp. (not a bunch of mob mentality people shouting random suggestions without considering the consequences of their demanded changes)

    what i'd like to see is a series of small changes (nerfs, buffs, rebalances, whatever, but start small), since the game is patched weekly, you can make small tweaks and rework if the result is not desirable