Mid Game Skills

MntMan - Lost City
MntMan - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Cleric
OK. So I just hit lvl 49 and opened up some new skills. I'm a light armor cleric and do a lot of fb runs and mostly solo my quests. I have

lvl 9 iron heart
lvl 10 plume
spark (of course)
lvl 9 cyclone
lvl 1 wield thunder
lvl 5 revive
lvl 1 purify
lvl 3 plume shield (rarely use unless I get aggro by accident)
lvl 10 Vanguard
lvl 10 Magic Shell
lvl 7 Spirit gift
lvl 4 Celestial Spirit
lvl 1 Soon the Light (AoE heal)

The rest I don't really use or have at level 1 because they are required to get other skills. I haven't done metal mastery yet and I also haven't done the AoE buffs yet because I think getting to max 10 was more important first to spend spirit on because buff % is same for AoE as lvl 10. Figured other skills deserved priority.

My question is where do I go from here? I grabbed chromatic seal because I heard its the best seal to have, but its expensive and I'm not sure I see the value. Certainly not in questing. Is it only for PvP because it freezes a surprise attacker long enough to lay some IH heal stacks on your self? It kind of sux that once you hit the mob or person it ends the seal.

How about stream of rejuvenation? Is it worth it for me to get and level that now or should I get my IH up to 10 and then maybe level Wellspring which I have at lvl 1 and never use? I know Wellspring has value to spike a heal after say an AoE run by tank or explosion from mobs like fb39 chickens, etc.

Is it worth getting cyclone up to lvl 10 now or should I focus on wield thunder? Should I start leveling razor feathers now? How about purify? What level should I get that to?

Is celestial spirit worth it at all to keep going. That's a lot of money and spirit for only a few extra pts a second.

I guess I'm kind of looking for a good game plan as I proceed to lvl 59 where I know I want tempest. what should my skill focus be on now and why. Spirit is limited and the cost of skills in coins is sky rocketing. Any advice or experience that can be given is appreciated.

Thanks in advance and sorry for all the questions.
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  • Samalia - Sanctuary
    Samalia - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    im lv 56 and i have

    10 cyclone
    10 plume shot
    10 vanguard spirit
    10 magic shell
    10 spirits gift
    10 plume shell
    10 ironheart
    3 or 4 weild thunder
    lv 1 in all my seals
    1 res



    i recommend you get plume shell and cyclone and spirits gift to max as soon as possible, but dont bother with celestial guardians seal. i regret just getting it to level 3

    i have saved/protected people from lots of damage/death during fb's with chromatic seal while the tanker gets aggro back.

    so yes get chromatic seal, even if only to level 1
    my wellspring is also level 1 and i see no reason to level it as of yet, i might get it some day. today is not that day

    i just got purify to level 1 at level 56, and i use it now and then during poison mobs and mana drain mobs. i advise just leaving it at level 1 as it only reduces cooldown for leveling it up

    and stop levelling your res!
    not only does it not help you but it actually hinders you!
    put that sp into plume shell!
    you might not respect plume shell right now because of its insane mana draining, but mine at level 10 takes about the same mana away as it would have taken hp, get it and use it!
    no questions asked!!!
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    MntMan - Lost City wrote: »
    My question is where do I go from here? I grabbed chromatic seal because I heard its the best seal to have, but its expensive and I'm not sure I see the value. Certainly not in questing.
    Pvp mainly, also sometimes good in pve to stop unwanted mob. But 1lvl of it is not very useful due to short sleep time. Even 2 and 3 and 4 are not that good... so keep it until later.
    MntMan - Lost City wrote: »
    How about stream of rejuvenation?
    It's like ih and wellspring combined, and clerics usually combine them in harsh situations. Stream is just the same: ih will be your main heal, stream for emergency. Dont touch it now. Better level wellspring.
    MntMan - Lost City wrote: »
    Is it worth getting cyclone up to lvl 10 now or should I focus on wield thunder? Should I start leveling razor feathers now? How about purify?
    Cyclone of course. 1lvl of thunder is not very good, too short range. Level it only when have free spirit points. Dont touch razor till later, they are mostly for solo aoe leveling on 7X. If you want to be good support cleric, you must level purify at least to 5 on 6X.
    MntMan - Lost City wrote: »
    Is celestial spirit worth it at all to keep going.
    No it is not. It's safe not to level it at all.
    --
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    You can start leveling you razor feathers after your fb59.
    Leave your seals also for later.
    Tho idk about metal mastery, i always had spirit for that.
    b:dirty
  • Irontygress - Heavens Tear
    Irontygress - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Samalia - Sanctuary wrote: »
    and stop levelling your res!
    not only does it not help you but it actually hinders you!
    I bet that makes you real popular when someone does finally die and needs a res. :-\

    Seems to me a bit underhanded to be a party cleric without ressurection at it's highest potential level.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    1GA and lv1 res = no exp loss xD

    But as many say, and i agree, lving res is cheap so not lving it is a sin.
    b:dirty
  • Holystic - Sanctuary
    Holystic - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    1GA and lv1 res = no exp loss xD

    But as many say, and i agree, lving res is cheap so not lving it is a sin.

    As cheap as some may see it as, its still not free. So it really depends..I personally prefer to keep my healing skills at max than worrying about rezzing someone and them losing exp. At 50+ if you are running around without GA's than you should also accept the fact that when you die it was your bust not the clerics problem.

    To OP, keep you rezz skills updated only when you have the sp and coin to spare, trust me your tank wants to have max heals not max rezz :)
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Holystic - Sanctuary wrote: »
    As cheap as some may see it as, its still not free. So it really depends..I personally prefer to keep my healing skills at max than worrying about rezzing someone and them losing exp. At 50+ if you are running around without GA's than you should also accept the fact that when you die it was your bust not the clerics problem.

    To OP, keep you rezz skills updated only when you have the sp and coin to spare, trust me your tank wants to have max heals not max rezz :)

    Are you in a faction? If not, do you have friends on the server?
    Believe me they want it high as possible when they die and you come along.
    4% exp for some is a hours of grind.
    b:dirty
  • Rinnve - Lost City
    Rinnve - Lost City Posts: 473 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Believe me they want it high as possible when they die and you come along.
    4% exp for some is a hours of grind.
    Don't make a rezz scroll out of cleric. There are many much more usefull skills, and if you level rezz before 7X, these skills will be underleveled - that is, unless you are healing slave and ignore pvp skills.
    --
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Rinnve - Lost City wrote: »
    Don't make a rezz scroll out of cleric. There are many much more usefull skills, and if you level rezz before 7X, these skills will be underleveled - that is, unless you are healing slave and ignore pvp skills.


    All my attacks skills are maxed for my level (with PS, GC, razor feathers, wielded thunder, tempest) + BB + RB + purify + high lv res

    This is not ignoring "pvp" skills, i am sure not a healing slave, but i am THE support class of the game.
    b:dirty
  • Holystic - Sanctuary
    Holystic - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Are you in a faction? If not, do you have friends on the server?
    Believe me they want it high as possible when they die and you come along.
    4% exp for some is a hours of grind.

    Well as to your questions. Nope, I choose not be in a faction currently. I'm still in the process of meeting people and figuring out where I could fit in. As to your 2nd question.. I have many friends on this server. I get invites to many fbs, TT runs and other peoples faction runs. I assume this is because they like me as a person and like my ability to heal well. I made it no secret that I didn't possess lvl 10 Rez but that has not stopped me from getting groups for anything yet.

    As of writing this, I finally got lvl 10 Rez because I could finally afford to do so coin and sp wise. That being the only reason not because its a necessity for grouping. Its a nice to have but can be skipped until you have good cash flow and Sp to spare.

    As for hours of grinding, well GA's are very cheap on my server. Around 30k-38k, I can usually manage to scrounge a few coins here and there to get this item.. because to me 4% exp is worth much more than the cost of 1 GA. As such I choose to be responsible for my own exp gain and losses and blame no one else for my conduct regarding it.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It wasnt about stopping you from joining FBs TTs.
    Just not every one has GA. And personally when i have to revive a friend, i want him to get full service. So that skill when you look at it, is coin and spirit cheap for what it does.
    b:dirty
  • Holystic - Sanctuary
    Holystic - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    personally when i have to revive a friend, i want him to get full service..

    That is very admirable that you strive for this and choose to play out your role in such a manner. I personally am always on the constant edge of being broke because of limited play time due to work , life etc.. and huge expenditures like buying mp charms (380-400k) etc.. so I have be rather frugal with my coins. Based on that alone I had to pick and choose most effective tools that enable me to do my job in a group and wait on non-essentials. I suppose it boils down to your style of play and wealth. While SP may be abundant after 60ish ..your coinage may not, at least that's what happened to me ><. Thats where I was coming from. b:thanks
  • Copperleaf - Harshlands
    Copperleaf - Harshlands Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Get your rez up. I have yet to hear a good cleric complain that their high rez hinders their playing experience. That, and no one will complain when you rez them is socially good for a game that requires parties for many events; so it's a win/win if you ask me. If you are going FAC, then do what you want; since FACs are basically mages with healing.
  • MntMan - Lost City
    MntMan - Lost City Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Thank you all for the responses. Since then I have upped my GC to max, brought my Wellspring to lvl 5 (which is still pretty worthless. I hope it increases exponentially as I level it, but will keep going) and also brought my plume shell up some and will continue on that.

    From what I've seen no one argued with keeping the AoE buffs on the back burner for a while until I get spare spirit and coin.

    I will hold off on leveling Wield Thunder, Stream and Chromatic Seal a bit and also wait until fb59 to level my razor feathers. At around 55 I'll try and get my purify up to lvl 5 or so.

    So many skills as a mid level cleric and not enough spirit and money to go around.

    Thanks again
  • Samalia - Sanctuary
    Samalia - Sanctuary Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Irontygress - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I bet that makes you real popular when someone does finally die and needs a res. :-\

    Seems to me a bit underhanded to be a party cleric without ressurection at it's highest potential level.

    it isnt my job to res the dead, its their job not to die.

    when i die i dont even bother asking to be ressurected, publicly or to my faction/squad. i accept my mistake and move on, its nobodies job to pay for it but my own. and i do through exp loss, or a 40k angel.
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    the reason i lvled my rez resently is that a lvl 53 cleric rezed me and i lost 7% i was like o.O and i didnt want ppl to get pised on me if i rez em and a lvl 1 rez is almost no use if u ask me, yes i know u have to get it in order to get other heals but im gona get it to 10 when i wil get the chance
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I lvled revive after I hit 60, that's when all my buffs including the aoe versions (except the regen one), cyclone, plume shot, plume shell, wellspring, ironheart, flying mastery and razor feathers were maxed. Now I'm lvling my purify by time to time and trying to keep my attacking spells and metal mastery at a proper lvl. Having revive maxed is not so bad while I was totally against it some time ago but it did pleased me seeing my closest friend beeing happy she didn't lose exp. it worths it.

    It also gives a nice feeling in TT runs when you're among other pretty high Clerics and a death means nothing to them/us, while I remember what a pain it was at lower lvls in some fb runs and stuff.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Imuretay - Heavens Tear
    Imuretay - Heavens Tear Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the reason i lvled my rez resently is that a lvl 53 cleric rezed me and i lost 7% i was like o.O and i didnt want ppl to get pised on me if i rez em and a lvl 1 rez is almost no use if u ask me, yes i know u have to get it in order to get other heals but im gona get it to 10 when i wil get the chance

    I've never lost that much either being ress'd or "going to town"! How in the world...?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the reason i lvled my rez resently is that a lvl 53 cleric rezed me and i lost 7% i was like o.O

    You're mistaken, max possible exp you can lose is 5% on low lvls.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    ops i gues i forgot to wrote that there was a mob that kiled me just as he revived me and i think i lost more then 7% it was about 8.5% more or less i lost already tooo much when he revived me the first time and thats my point

    when i pm a cleric and say if he can revive me im thinking that his rezz is more then lvl 2 perhaps? whats the use of rezz (exept in dungeons) if u dont get ur xp back moe or less at least
    Clerics are like cops...they always seem to be around.....until you actually need one b:surrender - DeadRaven
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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