R u a Tank .Or a Barbarian O.O

Xnastyx - Lost City
Xnastyx - Lost City Posts: 71 Arc User
edited August 2009 in Chronicles
Tank = Omg i wanna be helpful and feel important.
Barbarian = i wounder how many ppl i killed today o.o

This class is walked all over in other sections of forums.Me personally i feel ppl take kindness as a weakness.Most barbs roll a tank build.i wanna kno y?Is it because ur afraid to be different???Try a dex build bet you will enjoy fighting others especially BM's.Or a strength build and solo at a rate thats totally unreal for a barb(me)14% off a miji at lvl 70.But i do have good gears..maybe thats because my repair bill isnt randomly high from helping others hahaha

Be crazy be untamed...
wanna be helpfull roll a Cleric :O
b:victory

P.S um just sick of fellow barbs saying they dead during pk or lost the duel because there a tank build and own cheap gearsb:beatenup
Your opinions Plz. :)
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  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    What are these builds? I'd give them a shot.
  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    P.S um just sick of fellow barbs saying they dead during pk or lost the duel because there a tank build and own cheap gearsb:beatenup
    Your opinions Plz. :)

    well, i gotta agree on you there yeah... i dont think a barb needs to die in PK really, unless someone alot higher kills you, or your feeling brave and start fighting back (if you start at a disadvantage your chances of winning arent really great)
    And on the gears? dumb excuse... a tank builds needs good gear too or tanking is gonna suck b:embarrass
  • MitsUrogy - Heavens Tear
    MitsUrogy - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Tank =
    P.S um just sick of fellow barbs saying they dead during pk or lost the duel because there a tank build and own cheap gears
    Your opinions Plz. :)
    lol great post...buuut...i dont totally agree with u .am a tank build...normal gear, with just a TT60 axe and i pwn in pvp, thats bcoz am always broke spending my money on skills that i need in pvp more than skills that may help in tanking..tanking is easy if u have 3 skills.. Alacrity of the Beast , flash ream and talk is cheap, the rest is ur choice;) if u think a barb has low accuracy...ForGod sake buy the apothecary book lvl 4 n make ur accuracy powder a lvl 80+ archer will be like "WTH , he MISSED ONLY ONCE!!! DID I CHOOSE THE WRONG CLASS OR WATb:shocked" n then hes dead aksing for a rematch,,,, STUNT STUNT STUNT!!! WE HAVE THE BEST STUNT SKILL if u lvl it 2 10 n with the 6 sec cooldown its like 3X lion roar aka a bm doing lion roar three tyms in a row...which means the battle's over
    if ur fyting a mage..dont let him run..if he was lucky n ran from u..use bless(Invoke the Spirit) he ll be like "WTHb:shocked wheres ma damage!!" unless he knows bout the skill that is b:chuckle ..clerics..thy ll keep runing...i know one who keeps running no matter wat..so wat u do is slow him down..till u catch him..stunt..n he ll know its over ..a veno neva neva attack a veno with a nix or Bramble Guard on them wait the ryt moment..n then lets them taste ur steelb:angry
    too me the easiest class for me is the archer..which iit should be our weekness
  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, I was told to up my tiger skills, but come to think of it....I tanked the 49 culti bosses a couple days and a level or two ago no problem. High level cleric, and IDK if that's normal or not, but I was pretty excited and it seems easy.
  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dont have to be so surprised lol... a decent barbarian is always able to tank his own bosses, dungeons etc. (with a few exceptions offcourse)
    and the 49 culti bosses arent very hard to begin with, still its a nice feeling eh b:laugh

    and if you want to be decent at tanking, at least lvl up alacrity and fleshream, theres no way your gonna be worth anything as a tank without those 2 skills lvled up at higher lvl.
    Sunder is also worth levelling, bleed makes it easier to keep aggro vs. high damage dealing pets in TT for example.
  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    sure you can be a "barbarian" and follow a pk build. but based on my experiences as a pk barb(ty to all u guys who helped me in my threadb:pleased), a tank build IS a pk build. they BOTH stop dex at 60, they BOTH need high str.(yes, even tank for the dual-axes, they need lots of itb:shocked), and the only difference may be the vitality. pk might have a bit more str, but in that case, they're not even different builds anymore.
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    There are lots of non-tank Barbs. They're called BMs.b:chuckle
  • AndromedaB - Sanctuary
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    There are lots of non-tank Barbs. They're called BMs.b:chuckle

    and wizards >_>
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Yeah, I was told to up my tiger skills, but come to think of it....I tanked the 49 culti bosses a couple days and a level or two ago no problem. High level cleric, and IDK if that's normal or not, but I was pretty excited and it seems easy.

    Yep. Its normal.

    Actually what a barb can and can't tank isn't really decided just by the barb. Its also depends on the healers.
    I tanked FB69 bosses for my guildies and Krimson at 63. (Lol must've been a mega charm burn for them b:chuckle).
    Then at lvl70 got wiped by them about three times when doing them for a bunch of randoms.

    So, basically how well you can tank depends on:
    1. Your HP, gear and skills.
    2. Your Clerics.
    When the going gets tough; Get a tank!
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  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    i soo know what you mean... lol

    for example, i tanked Krimson at low lvl 60s without too much trouble, and almost got killed at lvl 80 once b:shocked
  • Leolf - Heavens Tear
    Leolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 380 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Just stole aggro form a level 87 BM killing TT 1-1 Drum Boss squad mode b:victory Died very quickly, and it's probably not abnormal, but it still feels cool to say it :p
  • Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear
    Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,175 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    thats because you have agro skills lol
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  • Gabriil - Lost City
    Gabriil - Lost City Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It's funny how you'll die in a higher levels' party because they don't understand that flesh ream actually steals the aggro and, if needed, roar as well, etc. I burned a quarter of a charm tanking fb 39, because the actual "tank", a level 6x barbarian who I'm not gonna name, was using human form, so the wizard/archer would have easily stolen aggro. What a noob... And neither of the 2 clerics wanted to understand that my hp was not dropping because I was so low level, but because I was the one getting the hits.

    You know, sometimes it makes a difference to actually read at least the basic guide for other classes too, or at least listen to what someone has to say, even if they are lower level.
    Yeah, on a more cheery note, I tanked Gouf at level 43, with 2 clerics. Quite fun, but took a while.

    Back on track however, I have 143 str, 40 dex, rest is in vit, that's with no armour/ornament bonuses (which are quite good to be honest). I've taken down one/two level higher barbarians and even BMs, clerics too (don't let them heal themselves) and will get lvl 4 apothecary skill, so I won't have troubles with archers either. The only class I find a bit scary is the Veno... They have some serious fire power with that nix and even the sawfly can be a bit of a problem. But I will devise a tactic to take them out too ("evil laugh"). Basically, if you have less str and more vit, you're a lot harder to kill - if you have more str, you'll kill things faster, but you will also die quicker. It's a matter of choice really.
  • Ghettodog - Lost City
    Ghettodog - Lost City Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Tank builds fail in duels but own in pvp.

    If you have a charm as a tank your unstoppable I am a tank right now but I have a little extra dex and I own like HELLb:chuckle
  • Kotecek - Lost City
    Kotecek - Lost City Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ii'm tank and have rather tiger build, because .. I think that tiger looks cute b:cute and barbarian looks strange and ugly! b:shocked And... I thinked cuz barb is the best in tanking, so if I want be the best in someting and want to be tiger I should be tank xD maybe on higher lvls I'll put some points in barb skills .. at least my barb have 50 lvl..

    BTW. I'm female tiger ^_^
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    ^ I have SO many personalities to play them all! b:cute

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  • DestroyTokyo - Lost City
    DestroyTokyo - Lost City Posts: 501 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Regardless of your build, refining the be jesus out of your gear makes you a reliable tank.

    I have 270 str and still have over 14k in tiger. I do hh90 semi reguarly and I've even done Belial.

    Basically go any build you fancy. Just make sure if it isn't vit heavy to refine those gears for all teh hpz
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  • osito1994
    osito1994 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    ok someone explain this tanking stuff ive seen all over the boards and gears cuz i havent even started the game lol
  • Taigerr - Heavens Tear
    Taigerr - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Sorry guys, i hate to say but I have sadly chosen the path of a full tank barb... I mean im gonna be wanted by people for fbs and TT most of the time. Not to mention most people are gonna want to party with me and want me to help kill their bosses. ALAS!! i shall continue with this "tank" build... its saddens me that i dont wanna try to take the BM's, Archers, Clerics, Veno's and Wizard's place as a DD.... /sarcasism off
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I pretty much ignored the entire tiger form tree outside of rank one tiger form and, I think, the bleed effect skill.


    Reason: currently don't tank anything anyway and rarely use tiger form except for the increased movement thing, and there simply isn't enough spirit to do both the human form tree and the tiger form tree outside of, maybe, that one bleed effect skill.
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  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I have 270 str and still have over 14k in tiger

    Ok, so you've added a bit more strength than a tanker barb would. A tanker would have 272 str at lvl90. You added some of that a bit early. I've added some extra dex for better accuracy. I don't think 5-10 points here or there is that much of a difference really, and it doesn't make you a DD build (imho).

    But I agree with your sentiment, gear plays a big role in your HP & tanking. Thanks to mine I have 11.1k HP as buffed tiger.
    When the going gets tough; Get a tank!
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  • xxxdsmer
    xxxdsmer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Yep. Its normal.

    Actually what a barb can and can't tank isn't really decided just by the barb. Its also depends on the healers.
    I tanked FB69 bosses for my guildies and Krimson at 63. (Lol must've been a mega charm burn for them b:chuckle).
    Then at lvl70 got wiped by them about three times when doing them for a bunch of randoms.

    So, basically how well you can tank depends on:
    1. Your HP, gear and skills.
    2. Your Clerics.

    i would havta agree with this dude.
    at level EIGHTEEN i was able to tank a lv20 darkbreed wolfkin and keep that one off a humanoid form barb b:chuckle and a veno.

    it took me a lifepowder, let powder cool before starting, and a chaos powder during (no cleric was around), but by golly i did it. lol
    i'm pro all classes, and against none in particular..
    but the age old QQ about venos is just that. OLD.
    QQ'd about a nix lately? check out this thread n tell me who's "OP" lol..
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  • dewancker
    dewancker Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited April 2009

    um just sick of fellow barbs saying they dead during pk or lost the duel because there a tank build and own cheap gearsb:beatenup
    Your opinions Plz. :)

    I'm sorry but a tank build is not bad at all for pvp. As long as you know how to roll your stats correctly, and overall be a really good tank, then a tank build, you'd find, is a good build for pvp, especially later on in the game. Sure, more dex would be nice, but eh, bloodbath and other items will help. The barbs that complain that they are getting killed and QQing about being a tank guild should go and roll a bm. They don't deserve being a barb.
  • The_Champion - Sanctuary
    The_Champion - Sanctuary Posts: 988 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    They're a lot of non tank barbs in perfect world. But I prefer the tank class. I have 1000 phys defense and health over pk barbs and I get kill mobs in human form in 4-8 shots my level. And I've never updated a humanoid skill since lvl20 besides stomp of the beast king lvl 25. I've tried many barb build including the mighty bowbarian, but the best build is the tank by far.
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    I see we have a necromancer barb. XD
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  • Ikurei - Dreamweaver
    Ikurei - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,006 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ok, what the hell is with all the necro lately? And why am I in the barb section?
    b:avoid
    Meh, saw a couple other people doing this so...
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  • Belligero - Sanctuary
    Belligero - Sanctuary Posts: 564 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ok, what the hell is with all the necro lately? And why am I in the barb section?
    b:avoid

    *shrugs* Because you want a peek at our fuzzy awesomeness. b:chuckle
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  • Chefstabs - Heavens Tear
    Chefstabs - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    well i just tank tt 2-2 tonight and didnt die subed hard mode i have my tiger skills maxed flesh 10 devour 9 Alacrity 7 poison 8 sund 5 rour 5 tt70 gears and legg mold your only good has your clerics are misty ring helps axe mastery lvl10 human skills are good too genie i use tree lvl10 sheild lvl10 and thunderstorm 8 and holy path i stick with weapon and armor for srt and dex rest on vit dex is 50 i have 9662hp still need to upgrade some more skill costs alot lol
    i have thunder axes soo i need to up my str fot tt tt80 axes then back to vit again
    but love being the tank is fun and everyone need one fbs tts and mini boses
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    Ok, what the hell is with all the necro lately? And why am I in the barb section?
    b:avoid

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  • Coyote_Wise - Heavens Tear
    Coyote_Wise - Heavens Tear Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    High dex tank build, one point of dex per level and it hasn't failed yet.
    Shot a wizard to death in a duel because I promised I'd go easy then used Blood Bath and a level 22 legendary bow to poke holes in him to the tune of 400-500 damage each hit.
    My gear has a ton of vit and +hp stats and a lot of +str on a couple rings and a hat. I can switch out to have more HP if Ihave a big nasty to tank, but I can usually get away with the +str gear. never missing with Alacrity is priceless in a boss fight. [/incoherrent]
  • Dagnatic - Sanctuary
    Dagnatic - Sanctuary Posts: 207 Arc User
    edited August 2009
    ....2. Your Clerics.

    He has got a point there. with some clerics I find lieing around I usualy die when Fighting Mobs slightly to hard for me. I cam across a realy good one theother wekk and you know what.
    HE was so bloody damn good i dint loos any HP and i aint a tank. if youv ever seen my stats youll know what I mean.
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