Hercules - Is it worth it?

Billyjoe - Dreamweaver
Billyjoe - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
edited April 2009 in Venomancer
Is it worth the money to get a hercules?

Are they really that much better?

Venomancers that own a herc, do you like it and are you glad you purchased it?

Also, compared to other pets (aside from the phoniex) where do they stand as far as defense and attack? Are they completely more powerful than any tamable pet?

Thanks in advance! b:victory
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  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Billyjoe - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Is it worth the money to get a hercules?

    Are they really that much better?

    Venomancers that own a herc, do you like it and are you glad you purchased it?

    Also, compared to other pets (aside from the phoniex) where do they stand as far as defense and attack? Are they completely more powerful than any tamable pet?

    Thanks in advance! b:victory

    Worth it,you can do fbs alone(i mean fbs near your level not 20-30 below except for bosses that will debuff herc)you can farm tt squad modes nevermind tt solo(though it wrecks mat prices for normal tt squads in long run)you can kill quest bosses without needing a full squad to help you(mostly)

    Yeah i like it well worth the 20mil,though the ability to add a proper mohawk to his head would be awesome.

    Compared to any other pets,herc grows wings and dumps on them from a great height.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Billyjoe - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Is it worth the money to get a hercules?

    Are they really that much better?

    Venomancers that own a herc, do you like it and are you glad you purchased it?

    Also, compared to other pets (aside from the phoniex) where do they stand as far as defense and attack? Are they completely more powerful than any tamable pet?

    Thanks in advance! b:victory
    Yes. Herc has self buffs. When unbuffed, Herc is slightly better than a golem at it's same level. buffed it is FAR better.

    Example: Unbuffed, at lvl 60 my Herc handled lvl 65 mobs pretty easily. Buffed he was handling lvl 90+ mobs pretty easily. My golem died trying the same thing. Followed shortly after my my ignoble flight from the fray.

    ~S
  • Energize - Heavens Tear
    Energize - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    My Herc is only lvl 40 (currently in cube) so I'll be sure to tell you when I start farming ;)
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  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Really worth it. You don't have to heal him while grinding. Healing about 10x less than a normal pet = faster grinding. Herc is PERFECT if you are pure arcane. You deal massive damage and he will tank the **** outta everything. You will lvl and get money fast as hell.

    Also can solo all the FB's. I can solo all FB's up to 59 easy. Sometimes I do wined FB59 runs and pick up ALL the 3 star 3 slot atuff ALL for myself. I can't wait till I can start real farming in TT. ;)
  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The only thing that can really stop a herc is bosses with physical or magical debuffs and some TT bosses. Otherwise, a high level herc can tank damn near anything.
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  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It is absolutely without a doubt worth every penny. I've made back the cost in the last 2 weeks with about 1/100th the effort it took to get it in the first place. Phoenix will be a breeze to save for after I get gear up to par.
  • Tearvalerin - Sanctuary
    Tearvalerin - Sanctuary Posts: 3,787 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    without herc none of my gear would be possible. Ive seen some 80+ venos/casters who still use shoddy genesis set gear, 2-3* with really lousy mods and it kind of makes me feel bad.

    Just remember, herc is an advantage, so take advantage of him... and appreciate it. ...and dont let your friends try to abuse you for TT with like my "friends" tried to lol. all they cared for was $, not me :|
  • Lickmehard - Lost City
    Lickmehard - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    The herc is the best tanking pet in the game by far, and is worth every penny. You can't solo everyboss by your self, however you can solo alot when your herc = same level as the boss. Aoe grinding is nice with herc also, as it can with stand 4-5 mobs while you aoe them down. Then ontop of all, you can solo alot of bosses in TT, getting mats and selling them for profit. So ya its preaty much worth it "IF" you plan on taking that character to 8x+.
  • Amour - Lost City
    Amour - Lost City Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    TBH aoe grinding kinda sucks because venos have one aoe skill and you have to make sure the herc keeps hitting all of them equally to actually use the aoe and not steal aggro.
    Grinding flying mabz with a phoenix is much better.
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  • Alyyy - Sanctuary
    Alyyy - Sanctuary Posts: 3,165 Arc User
    edited April 2009

    Compared to any other pets,herc grows wings and dumps on them from a great height.

    what did u mean? they can fly?
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what did u mean? they can fly?

    They should make a flying Herc, that'd be epic.b:laugh
  • Damewort - Sanctuary
    Damewort - Sanctuary Posts: 573 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    LoL... veno's secret attack: Flying Herc - select target, fly high, summon Herc and let him fall on the enemy. Who can survive that?

    On the topic - I don't have Herc, but seems it is worth to get one. With some TT squad solos you will earn that money back. They seems to be more lively which means, so less worries about pet's health.
  • Billyjoe - Dreamweaver
    Billyjoe - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ok thanks for your help everyone! :)

    I'll probably get one. b:pleased
  • Billyjoe - Dreamweaver
    Billyjoe - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I am buying Source of Force.

    I am on dreamweaver and I haven't yet checked the price of gold. So the amount I buy for may change.

    Buying:

    1 SoF for 1,500 coins

    1 battle pet pack for 25,000 coins

    PM/WHISP me in-game. IGN: BillyJoe

    I am just doing this to soften the blow of $200. The rest of the SoF will be purchased with gold via the boutique.
    b:victory

    b:bye

    Thanks for all those who have helped! b:cute
  • StellarAshes - Heavens Tear
    StellarAshes - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Since you're on Dreamweaver I feel that there's an additional piece of information you ought to know: Herc only eats meat, and nothing else. Due to the absence of Christmas Blessing on your server, you will probably have to constantly buy that cash shop item that prevents your pet from going hungry (2 gold every week).

    Of course, the money you'd make with Herc would probably pay that itself, but it's something you should also keep in mind.
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    StellarAshes - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Since you're on Dreamweaver I feel that there's an additional piece of information you ought to know: Herc only eats meat, and nothing else. Due to the absence of Christmas Blessing on your server, you will probably have to constantly buy that cash shop item that prevents your pet from going hungry (2 gold every week).

    Of course, the money you'd make with Herc would probably pay that itself, but it's something you should also keep in mind.

    Anything that goes in that slot (such as the various mystery tomes) have the same effect. People have figured out Rebirth by now to get fragments with pages to make tomes. Although I'd imaging it's rare in the new serves due to lack of high level people capable of getting fragments.
  • Demonictears - Sanctuary
    Demonictears - Sanctuary Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    So how much would a herc cost? And an xmas blessing?
  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Demonictears - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So how much would a herc cost? And an xmas blessing?

    In sanctuary, 3-4mil for christmas blessing. 2 mil for mystery tome. Herc cost around 20 mil or 200 gold average.
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Now that tomes are readily available the xmas blessing is junk. Crit is only minimally useful for us, I'll take pure +magic any day. 2 mil and you're set.
  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Alyyy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    what did u mean? they can fly?

    Heh,you knew fine rightly that was a metaphor.
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  • Baritomaris - Sanctuary
    Baritomaris - Sanctuary Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I'm a little new to the whole buying-a-Herc thing. It's hard finding the info I want muddling through threads, and I don't want to start a new one.

    What I want:

    * To buy a Herc using in-game coins

    What I know:

    * I need Sources of Force to get a Herc

    * I get the Herc from the Zoologist

    * I should expect to spend 20 million or so coin to get a Herc

    What I would like to know:

    * What is the best place to get Sources of Force?

    Keep in mind that I'm a noob when it comes to this. In other words, I really need things spelled out step-by-step.

    I've seen Sources of Force being auctioned, so I know I can get them there. I hear people talking about using cash shop items to buy a Herc. Sources of Force don't seem to be sold at the Boutique as far as I can tell. What are people talking about?
  • khalamo21
    khalamo21 Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Sources of force come from Battle Pet Packs which cost 50 silver.

    Statistically u get around 27 sources/feathers per pack. That means u need around 340-360 packs.

    You can exchange 100 feathers to get 100 sources or 100 sources to get 100 feathers at north west archosaur pet npc.
  • Baritomaris - Sanctuary
    Baritomaris - Sanctuary Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Awesome! Thanks for the help :)
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    You can also buy the SoF/Feathers directly from other players, but my experience and that of many others is that it is much cheaper to open your own packs. It takes a lot of clicking and patience, though, so some people will still buy them. You can cut costs a bit by selling the feathers you get and buying more packs. Takes a good bit longer than trading them to pet mngr, but it's the thrifty way to go.
  • Eorween - Heavens Tear
    Eorween - Heavens Tear Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Herc is way worth it, regardless if you going to farm TT solo or squad.
    cause not every BM is design for tanking, lot of them hardly put any vit in their build = low hp.
    so one barb for tanking and if barb miss it, you healer might be dead in next sec.
    Herc can pretty much tank any trash in TT = save your cleric's butt most of the time.
    that is one of the major problem cleric dies you either **** or have to wait.
    IF you try to do this with magnite, lol maybe 2 hits its dead in any 3-1 3-2.
  • Antelope - Lost City
    Antelope - Lost City Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Well hercs really are quite usefull for stuff such as HH and in PvE... But in PvP, I find it quite usless and I use a Serphah instead. Serphas can fly and are really good at everything. Look at its Stats and compare it to Herc Infant. I just recommend you use the Herc Infant for PvE and Serphah for PvP.
    Level 1x WF. Harshlands (PvP)
  • Mezzy - Lost City
    Mezzy - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Whats a Serphah?
    Surely the pheonix pet is the best at air pvp...
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  • Antelope - Lost City
    Antelope - Lost City Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Sephah = Pheonix.
    Level 1x WF. Harshlands (PvP)
  • _petgoddess_ - Dreamweaver
    _petgoddess_ - Dreamweaver Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    It is worth it if you want to be brought down the path of insanity b:laugh
    Seriously though it will be worth every coin or gold for it since its 3 buffs alone (inc phy def, inc mag def and dmg reflect) are awesome. I would replace pounce with bash though since it will help alot in PvEb:pleased
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