I dont think Venos are THAT over powered but...

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  • Angelle - Heavens Tear
    Angelle - Heavens Tear Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Ok, I just took my magmite thing to Harshlands and let it tank two different mobs that were 30 levels above. I healed just fine and my magmite tanked well.

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    Edit: Now, went down to wherever and poked a level 104 thing.

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  • Daji - Heavens Tear
    Daji - Heavens Tear Posts: 127 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    You might be able to do it with a golem but usually a herc would be needed. Heres the same pic I've posted on these boards 50 million times.

    Mobs 40 lvs higher - lv 50 vs. lv 92

    http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20090323023111.png

    me > than the op?

    With a bit of kiting and bramble, I can solo this mob without a pet too at L85. His physical attack is weak.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    You might be able to do it with a golem but usually a herc would be needed. Heres the same pic I've posted on these boards 50 million times.

    Mobs 40 lvs higher - lv 50 vs. lv 92

    http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20090323023111.png

    me > than the op?

    I could probably do that with a Magmite with Threaten.
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  • Mothergoose - Sanctuary
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary Posts: 1,320 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I could probably do that with a Magmite with Threaten.

    And Tough.b:victory
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Mothergoose - Sanctuary wrote: »
    And Tough.b:victory

    Oh yeah, and that. I kinda forgot since my volcanic came with it.
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  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    oh no the venos can tank b:cry b:cry b:cry
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  • Coraline - Lost City
    Coraline - Lost City Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i guess but that would require two people. she is doing it by herself and getting 0.6 exp off each mob

    That's stupid. Why not just kill mobs your lvl faster and get more xp? I dont understand..
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    Lol what?
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Torinchibi - Lost City wrote: »
    Oh, if only half of you knew of these questionmark mobs with low hp that have decent xp....then you would realize just how many bugs surround the veno class.

    Most people are so unobservant they still avoid the Increased Life, Increased Defense, etc. mobs because they're annoying to kill, not realizing they give 1.5x or 2x the exp of normal mobs. The numbers even show up in big gold letters above their heads after every kill and they still don't notice. It's no wonder the housing bubble got as bad as it did before it burst.
  • mentallaxative
    mentallaxative Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    You can do it, but it's much better to kill mobs at your level. Stronger mobs equal stronger attack, which means you have to heal more, and if you make a mistake your chances of dying are higher. The damage you deal is reduced too, so you will just take longer to kill them.

    Next up on the QQ agenda: clerics are overpowered because they are the only class that can purify. =.=
  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited April 2009
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  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ummm i never said it was. i just wanted to know why they could and we cant.. soo yeah

    I believe you can. I do not think this would be worthwhile for you, but if you can keep yourself alive long enough you can eventually kill high level monsters. For example, if you had +3 cash shop wings, maybe you could kite some monster long enough. Silence might also help you here.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I could probably do that with a Magmite with Threaten.

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    Level 44 Volcanic Magmite w/ Bash 3, Sandblow 1, Tough 1 and Threaten 1

    against a level 92 Giant

    Same one did this against a level 95 Giant before buying the farm:
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    I'm pretty sure at level 45 he could down the level 95 Giant. "Pretty sure"


    At level 49 or 50? The Giant should be Easy Breezy Cover Girl.
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  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    you know you can probably solo higher level poison mobs.

    heck unless a melee mob is elite and runs blazing fast i can eventually whittle it down to death with my archer via much kiting and casting of frost/knockback. just take more effort but just as much a waste of time.

    lol sai im sure that can also be captioned **** is imminent
  • Damewort - Sanctuary
    Damewort - Sanctuary Posts: 573 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    I know a lvl62 cleric who grinds on lvl80 mobs. He also grinded in Swamp since the begining of lv50s. Does that count as OP too?
  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the fact that she CAN kill them. But i gues it doesnt matter because in pvp/duels you could go straight for the veno an ignore the pet

    That is how you do things in pvp sort of like another game I play.I wouldn't say Venos are OP.I don't like it when in squads and thier pet dies they revive it taking focus off of someone else from a boss.I do have Veno as well.
    Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    ooo...UPDATE!!!

    Level 95 Nivastok Brave down.


    51 levels higher than the Volcanic Magmite


    Gained 575 XP
    113 Spirit

    233 coins
    1 Eternal Light (useless vendor ****)

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    In the amount of time it took to kill that monstrosity I could have killed 10 mobs her level and gained at least twice as much XP/spirit, twice as much loot, and had infinitely more fun doing so.
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    ooo...UPDATE!!!

    Level 95 Nivastok Brave down.


    51 levels higher than the Volcanic Magmite


    Gained 575 XP
    113 Spirit

    233 coins
    1 Eternal Light (useless vendor ****)

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    In the amount of time it took to kill that monstrosity I could have killed 10 mobs her level and gained at least twice as much XP/spirit, twice as much loot, and had infinitely more fun doing so.

    To bad you aren't in Sanctuary so I can get half of the XP and Spirit.I can sure use the spirit as I just lvled up most of my skills now I need more spirit.
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  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
    To bad you aren't in Sanctuary so I can get half of the XP and Spirit.I can sure use the spirit as I just lvled up most of my skills now I need more spirit.

    Trust me, it wasn't worth the time. The mob's level was so much higher than the golem's I had to have perfect timing, low latency, and make zero mistakes. Out of 8 attempts, 5 resulted in the golem biting the dust, 2 I was able to unsummon the golem, and the last was successful. Most of the time I got the giant to less than 50% before missing a heal. The giant 3 levels lower didn't pose nearly the same problem as the level 95 giant did. Earlier I had thrown the golem up against a level 97 mob further north, and fared even worse.


    I really don't care what people like Lit have to say about their claims that they can go after mobs that much higher because after all is said and done it's only good for a challenge, but that's all. No amount of XP or spirit or loot will ever make it worth the time.
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  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    But.. at lv67 I could kill the lv105 mobs at Buried Bones with no problems at all, and I wore NPC armor (bought from the NPC) till lv70... Blademaster's are overpowered too!
  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    XAsch - Sanctuary wrote: »
    But.. at lv67 I could kill the lv105 mobs at Buried Bones with no problems at all, and I wore NPC armor (bought from the NPC) till lv70... Blademaster's are overpowered too!
    Oh Noessssss.... oh wait... NERF BLADEMASTERS!

    J/K I love BM and think their fun as hell to play.

    ~S
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    mbrunestud wrote: »
    heck unless a melee mob is elite and runs blazing fast i can eventually whittle it down to death with my archer via much kiting and casting of frost/knockback. just take more effort but just as much a waste of time.

    I agree with you, if you do not mind 10-ish minutes for a thousand-ish exps, even delicate archers can fight high level opponents.

    I was trying to burn off some bleah energy last week:

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    He gave me a lucky star (which I would have been able to use when I reached level 90), so I was lucky?

    I felt foolish, afterwards.
  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Oh Noessssss.... oh wait... NERF BLADEMASTERS!

    J/K I love BM and think their fun as hell to play.

    ~S

    Totally! I mean, we have the same Bleed skill Nix's have, we can stun more, we can take things 40 levels higher then us! Talk about favourtism. b:surrender
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I agree with you, if you do not mind 10-ish minutes for a thousand-ish exps, even delicate archers can fight high level opponents.

    I was trying to burn off some bleah energy last week:

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    He gave me a lucky star (which I would have been able to use when I reached level 90), so I was lucky?

    I felt foolish, afterwards.

    Thats exactly the thing. Venos can do it way quicker than 10 mins. At lv 50 as pure arcane I killed that lv 92 mob in 1:30 tops. That mob was 40 lvls higher.

    And if you tell me where that 108 mob is, I will show u how fast I drop it. ;o

    Venos are still win because they don't have to run and kite like crazy. Just stand there and press two buttons...heal and venemous scarab. Kills most things ingame.

    Owned.
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
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    rofl look how hard it's getting hit. But you're right, I see the point of your posts in here. Golems are just as good as herc...maybe better.

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    Omglazerz u missed the whole point people were talkin about. Were talkin about OTHER classes soloing higher mobs and you post a pic of a veno trying to prove something to me. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY CAN! You just gave the veno haters more ammo. AHAHAH thx man!

    When you get 66 tell me if that golem can tank jewelscalen with two venos healing it. Ok?
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Question:

    when mobs have their name in red. Does that mean also that you will not get the right exps because you are too low level?

    The question is because I've been invited to TT70 and higher FB's and you get no exps for killing those. I wonder if it is the same outside of caves.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Granrey - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Question:

    when mobs have their name in red. Does that mean also that you will not get the right exps because you are too low level?

    The question is because I've been invited to TT70 and higher FB's and you get no exps for killing those. I wonder if it is the same outside of caves.


    I believe that is to keep players from using much higher instances to power level lower level characters.


    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    rofl look how hard it's getting hit. But you're right, I see the point of your posts in here. Golems are just as good as herc...maybe better.

    Of course it's getting hit harder:

    1. it's 51 levels lower than the Nivastok Brave
    2. It's 48 levels lower than the Nivastok Shieldbearer.
    Omglazerz u missed the whole point people were talkin about. Were talkin about OTHER classes soloing higher mobs and you post a pic of a veno trying to prove something to me. WE ALREADY KNOW THEY CAN! You just gave the veno haters more ammo. AHAHAH thx man!

    Lit, you're about as much of a veno hater as anyone could possibly be. No pic I could ever post dealing with a venomancer could possibly give them "more ammo", unlike you who seems to try really really hard to make a case as to why venos are OP.

    My point, which you missed, was that a golem can successfully tank any normal mob a herc can while using different abilities.
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  • Shiga - Sanctuary
    Shiga - Sanctuary Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    At level 28 I solo'd a level 100 mob. True story
  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Trust me, it wasn't worth the time. The mob's level was so much higher than the golem's I had to have perfect timing, low latency, and make zero mistakes. Out of 8 attempts, 5 resulted in the golem biting the dust, 2 I was able to unsummon the golem, and the last was successful. Most of the time I got the giant to less than 50% before missing a heal. The giant 3 levels lower didn't pose nearly the same problem as the level 95 giant did. Earlier I had thrown the golem up against a level 97 mob further north, and fared even worse.


    I really don't care what people like Lit have to say about their claims that they can go after mobs that much higher because after all is said and done it's only good for a challenge, but that's all. No amount of XP or spirit or loot will ever make it worth the time.

    Died many times, missing heals etc? Hrmm well it was no challenge when I did it. I never died once and neither did the herc. I could attack many times inbetween heals + the herc has reflect damage. The mob went down quickly. I actually killed many of them and gave up after I only got 2 lv 91 DQ items.

    The main reason I did it at the time was because I thought you could get drops. You wasted all those MP pots (or charm) and time trying to do something I did easily and it WAS fun for me.

    Epic fail.
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I believe that is to keep players from using much higher instances to power level lower level characters.
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    Thx for the answer but what is the rule outside FB's. If you can grind on mobs with rednames. Do you get less exps from them?

    I'm not concern about the drops.
  • _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary
    _Bloody_Fox_ - Sanctuary Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    OMG i completely regret making this thread. i am so sorry guysb:surrender
    This is getting out of hand lol
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