am I abnormal

Tequila_wolf - Heavens Tear
Tequila_wolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 193 Arc User
edited March 2009 in Barbarian
hello i'm Tequila_Wolf, and so far every barb i have met, has less life than me, i even out hp a 65 barb i met, gunna post my stats, let me know if this is normal

Level - 59
Strength - 182
Vitality - 98
Dexterity - 39
Magic - 10
Hits Points (unbuffed - 4,038) (beast kings Level 8 only - 5,047)
(beast kings level 8 +true form level 3 - 6,259)
Mana - 882

Equip bonuses
Helm - +250 hp (50 hp from shards)+2 vitality 2 sockets
Chestplate - none
Leggings - +2 vitality +167 wood resistance +167 fire resistance 3 sockets
Boots - +4 strength +49 physical resist +26 physical resist (shard) 2 sockets
Amulet - +4 vitality
Cape - HP recovery +5
Wristguards - +3 strength +69 physical resist (+50 hp from shards)
Belt - +40 hp +2 vitality
Ring 1 - +60 hp +2 vitality
Ring 2 - +44 Accuracy

Total of equipment value
+400 hp
+10 vitality
+7 strength
+147 physical resist
+167 wood resist
+167 fire resist
+44 accuracy
4 open sockets
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  • IBlowYou - Heavens Tear
    IBlowYou - Heavens Tear Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    true form level 3?
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I think it could be some people don't want to max trueform sue dmg reduction.
    But, also until lvl60 or so a lot of barbs focus on pdef shards and bonuses more than HP, (I know I did, since the %DR increase from added pdef was still acceptable, and this saves pot money b:chuckle).

    Now after 60 your pdef is high enough that small additions wont make much of a difference to %DR any more. Thats when a good deal of people shift from +pdef to +HP.
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  • Tessek - Heavens Tear
    Tessek - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I have over 8k hp at my level (67) without any hp shards. So if you're abnormal I don't know what I am.
  • Ferociouss - Heavens Tear
    Ferociouss - Heavens Tear Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    its not adnormal its about about what lvl ur skills are and what kinda gear u have on
  • detriteus
    detriteus Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I am lvl 62 I have 6500 in tiger form fully buffed. What you have is average bud.
  • Mikel_oru - Sanctuary
    Mikel_oru - Sanctuary Posts: 610 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    detriteus wrote: »
    I am lvl 62 I have 6500 in tiger form fully buffed. What you have is average bud.

    Agreed, most barbs I see have more than 6k hp buffed around lvl60
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  • Tequila_wolf - Heavens Tear
    Tequila_wolf - Heavens Tear Posts: 193 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    i'm now lvl 64 and i'm pushing 8k hp, got 7,982 full buffed lol
  • Isolated - Harshlands
    Isolated - Harshlands Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    imo, i think its better to put hp since pdef is kinda average rate compared to another barb but yet again so is hp, but more hp is better imho
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  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    full self buffed with my armor hp addons i have about 7k my armor is actually sharded with mdef as a test to see which shards give the best per cost.

    actually i have more vit then you but less hp so basically you are not wierd your just geard up well.
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  • Batseba - Heavens Tear
    Batseba - Heavens Tear Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Well, I don't know about your skills (let other guide you), but your stats seem to add up. I take it you're wearing the latest gear, which will take up a lot of STR and a bit of DEX leaving just a little bit extra to go into VIT.
  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    every barb has to deal with the same stat requirements from gear, so that doesnt matter much.

    the HP of the original poster is nice, but noting special no.
    Point is though, that alot of barbarians i see are not putting too much focus on getting their HP as high as possible.
    ive seen plenty of barbs of 70+ that only have around 6k hp, where i used to have way over 8k at that point.

    just maxed HP buff, maxed tigerform and hp shards in your gear and youll have great hp.
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    erado i know what you mean and that is the baisis for my griping atm.

    who wants a real tank built barb when any barb with a charm will work?

    both a tank and damage barb wear the same armor. both should have the same buffs. the only difference is barb who just wanna tank took that path and gave up a bit of damage to do it.

    where as (and this seems to be the prevailent case) other barbs who went damage route have lower lvl tiger not turtle and only flesh ream. they have alot more str then the tank build and use charms to make up for it. in the end they do do the job.

    now we all know there are charm breaking bosses but those are few in comming. so to tank when YOU want to you are compeating against cash shop charmed barbs and hercs. and guess what high hp loses every time to instant full charmed life. it is rediculess (more to the point is is rediclfull but that is english).
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    and i will whisper no.
  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    some ppl use the damage dealing build you mention, but there are quite a few ppl that do not realize the need of high hp for tanking, or simply dont care too much about stuff like that.

    For higher lvl TTs though, a barbs gotta have a charm anyway, most parties wont let you in if you dont have one. if you dont have one you could very well get your party killed with a bit of bad luck.

    And on the DD barb with charms... thats only for rich ppl really, since as you will probably know, barbs eat hp charms for breakfast, lunch and dinner. and then some more.
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Erado - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    some ppl use the damage dealing build you mention, but there are quite a few ppl that do not realize the need of high hp for tanking, or simply dont care too much about stuff like that.

    For higher lvl TTs though, a barbs gotta have a charm anyway, most parties wont let you in if you dont have one. if you dont have one you could very well get your party killed with a bit of bad luck.

    And on the DD barb with charms... thats only for rich ppl really, since as you will probably know, barbs eat hp charms for breakfast, lunch and dinner. and then some more.

    Absolutely true. Even with two clerics healing/purifying I manage to eat through about 300K off my HP charm every time I run a TT1-2 or 2-1 squad.

    I have 10KHp as a buffed tiger and am almost always with charm. Even then I manage to get two shotted by General Wurlord (2-1) once in a while, usually if my alclarity misses and one of my clerics laggs.
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  • Maromar - Lost City
    Maromar - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    wtf i follow dai's barb guide religiously.
    im lvl 77 with:
    base stats
    vit 104
    str 241
    dex 50

    is his guide not for tankers? my base hp is 4352, bonuses bring it to 4962. after beast kings its 6451. i don't get it.
  • Hazardus - Heavens Tear
    Hazardus - Heavens Tear Posts: 937 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Maromar - Lost City wrote: »
    wtf i follow dai's barb guide religiously.
    im lvl 77 with:
    base stats
    vit 104
    str 241
    dex 50

    is his guide not for tankers? my base hp is 4352, bonuses bring it to 4962. after beast kings its 6451. i don't get it.

    Dai's guide IS for tankers. I follow it too. Though I seem to have more vit and less str and dex than you do.

    I think you have not counted your equipments. My base (naked HP) would be about the same as your figures.

    If you have included your gear then I bet you've got gear not focusing on HP. You need gear with +HP/+vit stats and +HP shards. Upto lvl50 or 60 the gain with pdef shards is acceptable, but after lvl70 the HP shards are better than pdef. Especially so for a barb.
    When the going gets tough; Get a tank!
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  • Maromar - Lost City
    Maromar - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    well i already posted base stats
    stats from equip bonuses:
    vit 124
    str 270
    dex 50

    still only produces 4962.

    and yeh i don't use shards. his guide did not say i required them, just that they help.
  • Devarsi - Sanctuary
    Devarsi - Sanctuary Posts: 542 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    whoa hazard.. how do you eat that much charm in TT1-2/2-1 ... the only time your charm should tick in any of those is maybe against soulbanisher if you have low level clerics who die to his phys aoe.. and against wurlord (who totally isn't worth it in 2-1 squad... go farm solo mode for his drops.. hes way easier)

    my charm never ticks unless its soulbanisher 1-3 or i'm fighting wurlord .. or ape 2-2 .. that dude sucks

    edit:maro.. shards are pretty much necessary if you wanna be a HP beast.. they add tons of hp if you have all your gear sharded.. i'm at over 8k hp buffed in humanoid.. something like 10.2k in tiger

    but this is with all my gear sharded.. +1 or +2 refine .. lots of +vit on my stuff
  • Erado - Heavens Tear
    Erado - Heavens Tear Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    hmm yeah 300k is alot of charm to run through in 1-2 or 2-1.

    at least... with a normal run without too much troubles i hardly burn anything, if something goes wrong though, like killed clerics in aoe of some sort yeah, charms deplete fast.

    and yeah, if you want high hp dont just look at your stats, but also look at refined gear, hp stones in your gear and last but not least maxed tigerform and maxed buffs.

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