This is sad.....

Deathnote - Harshlands · March 2009

Literature - Harshlands wrote: »

lol but I'm not the one who made the thread. I'm not 14 either, I'm 20.

But you NEVER see this guy in town, never pking, never in a shop...nothing. He just sits there for 15 hours a day grinding, goes to sleep, wake up and does it again? Yeah right.

They say some people can do that but it's not true. They are usually cheaters.

I saw the guy once.. was thinking about pking him.

He seems human. But staring to be Kind of robotic now though since he hasn't much sleep.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deathnote - Harshlands wrote: »

I saw the guy once.. was thinking about pking him.

He seems human. But staring to be Kind of robotic now though since he hasn't much sleep.

I say PK them and see what they do because that's what I would do. b:pleased

Sephyros - Lost City · March 2009

I heard on the news of people walking into net cafes vertically and exits horizontally. There are always extreme people in the world. There are already 6 level 100s, and lvl 100 is all the xp needed from 1 to 99 doubled or somthing. Sure these games kinda ruin peoples lives but then again its the players fault for not controlling themselves.

My cousins dad finishes his dinner super quick so he could play on WoW. He hardly even sleeps and one time he collapsed at work.

I just hope the lvl 80 on harshlands dont over do himself and die infront of his computer screen. Not the best way to die and the whole world would laugh at ya.

Literature - Harshlands · March 2009

Ok well if he IS just sitting there playing all day then he's gotta be feeling physically miserable. Or he's doing some kind of drug to keep himself going or whatever.

But I've seen a ton of people like him before in other games. Never seen any of them die but I HAVE seen a ton of em who turned out to be cheaters.

OK I'm done with this thread. cya =D

Sephyros - Lost City · March 2009

Well i HAVE seen on hacker forums of some dude posting a bot up for perfect world and i was shocked to see how many people dwownloaded and thanked the poster. There were hundreds.

So at least already there are hundreds of people using bots between the perfectworld games. From my experience only around 10-20% of users thank hackers for posts so i guess there are already a ton of people botting on PW.

Still, i think alot of them arent using bots and just has no life and plays this game 24/7.

Chocooo - Lost City · March 2009

Literature - Harshlands wrote: »

Ok well if he IS just sitting there playing all day then he's gotta be feeling physically miserable. Or he's doing some kind of drug to keep himself going or whatever.

But I've seen a ton of people like him before in other games. Never seen any of them die but I HAVE seen a ton of em who turned out to be cheaters.

OK I'm done with this thread. cya =D

How often are you in town that you would manage to see him in town?
Maybe you're just unlucky.

And no, he might not be miserable.
Are you really 20? Have you not come to learn the fact that not everyone has the same morales and standards as you? What's so hard to understand about someone who likes playing games a lot, and devotes a good portion of his hours into the game?

How do you know that this person isn't someone who's been working for years and decided to take a nice summer break to play something he/she enjoys?

Why do you see people who enjoys playing games to such a degree as "physically miserable" and "a drug user"? Are you really that dense? That jealous? Is it really that unacceptable? How socially insecure are you?

And finally... what close mindedness. Live a little, and learn to accept other rituals and hobbies as something different and unique rather than something vulgar and repulsive.

You might be 20, but your mind has only aged somewhere to around 14.
Or, you might have over-aged well beyond your age (and returned to the cavemen ancient mentality) to the point your openness to people different from you have completely dissolved.

"HE DIFFERENT! ME NO LIKE! ME YELL AT HIM! ME CALL HIM NAMES! CAUSE ME BEST!".

Yawn.

Saitada - Sanctuary · March 2009

Literature - Harshlands wrote: »

Ok well if he IS just sitting there playing all day then he's gotta be feeling physically miserable. Or he's doing some kind of drug to keep himself going or whatever.

But I've seen a ton of people like him before in other games. Never seen any of them die but I HAVE seen a ton of em who turned out to be cheaters.

OK I'm done with this thread. cya =D

Or, unlike you he/she may be physically handicapped and playing an RPG may be the only escape from their disability they have and take it. Or they may be agoraphobic and not be comfortable going out. They may be rich and don't need to work. You don't know.

~S

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

Just 2 things:

1) He/she had LOADS of money to spend, and Im talking well above like $300+ (even if you resell and work the economy you will need at least that much to buy scrolls/fruits to lvl u up THAT far)

2) Apparently they had loads of time on their hands (Consider the amount of items you had to use to acheive that lvl and the crowdedness of some scroll areas)

The thing is, they KNOW they dont have a life either way. (They may, but the above factors say other wise to society majority) You wont see the pple who used the event to gain 20+ levels gloat about it (or at least most of them) cause hey, in all seriousness no one is gonna say "Wow its so cool! you spent over $300 RL monies to lvl up this far in this event!" Even if they did, they will leave out how much they spent, cause its embarrassing.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Just 2 things:

1) He/she had LOADS of money to spend, and Im talking well above like $300+ (even if you resell and work the economy you will need at least that much to buy scrolls/fruits to lvl u up THAT far)

2) Apparently they had loads of time on their hands (Consider the amount of items you had to use to acheive that lvl and the crowdedness of some scroll areas)

The thing is, they KNOW they dont have a life either way. (They may, but the above factors say other wise to society majority) You wont see the pple who used the event to gain 20+ levels gloat about it (or at least most of them) cause hey, in all seriousness no one is gonna say "Wow its so cool! you spent over $300 RL monies to lvl up this far in this event!" Even if they did, they will leave out how much they spent, 'cause its no one's business but their own.

Fixed the part that is bolded. b:pleased

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Fixed the part that is bolded. b:pleased

Id say because its still embarrassing. 'cause its no one's business but their own. sounds sugar coated because it goes around the core of what is behind that reason. It may be no ones business but the reason behind it boils down to the fact that they know their not going to get the most positive reaction from others in the community.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Id say because its still embarrassing. 'cause its no one's business but their own. sounds sugar coated because it goes around the core of what is behind that reason. It may be no ones business but the reason behind it boils down to the fact that they know their not going to get the most positive reaction from others in the community.

Of course you do because that way you can feel superior by slighting them.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Of course you do because that way you can feel superior by slighting them.

Im looking this from a 3rd person view and an opinion based on no negative and positive info I personally have from them. Unlike you sir, who say that, yet think nothing of slighting pple by 'fixing' their posts to your liking and then contradict this quoted very post AS you post it. You forget, that the very reason there is a lv 79 after this event is because someones ambition for superiority.

dieho · March 2009

its called half the people on harshlands sold their accounts on another server to pay for things on HL. thought account selling was against the rules but i guess as long as all the money is getting spent back on the game they will just turn the other way. funny how people who say they dont cash shop can switch servers and have a herc and phoenix the first day...wonder how that works. besides even if some are lying and do cash shop i've seen about 20 people admit to selling accounts already.

Literature - Harshlands · March 2009

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Or, unlike you he/she may be physically handicapped and playing an RPG may be the only escape from their disability they have and take it. Or they may be agoraphobic and not be comfortable going out. They may be rich and don't need to work. You don't know.

~S

Chocooo - Lost City wrote: »

Why do you see people who enjoys playing games to such a degree as "physically miserable" and "a drug user"? Are you really that dense? That jealous? Is it really that unacceptable? How socially insecure are you?

I don't know what meaning you guys got from me saying physically miserable but I wasn't talking about his life. If I sit in a chair and do nothing but press two keys for 8+ hours daily, I'm gonna start feeling wierd. My eyes are gonna hurt, back, legs, all that stuff.

Been thru this argument a million times before in other places. Chocoo thinks he's just sitting there playing all those hours and Saitada thinks he's Stephen Hawking. But I been around long enough to know that usually there is something illegitimate going on.

But maybe I've been playing too many crappy games with crappy people and crappy administrators. Maybe it has skewed my view on what people can and will do without cheating. Who knows.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Im looking this from a 3rd person view and an opinion based on no negative and positive info I personally have from them. Unlike you sir, who say that, yet think nothing of slighting pple by 'fixing' their posts to your liking and then contradict this quoted very post AS you post it. You forget, that the very reason there is a lv 79 after this event is because someones ambition for superiority.

No, you're simply coloring it with your bias.

dieho wrote: »

its called half the people on harshlands sold their accounts on another server to pay for things on HL. thought account selling was against the rules but i guess as long as all the money is getting spent back on the game they will just turn the other way. funny how people who say they dont cash shop can switch servers and have a herc and phoenix the first day...wonder how that works. besides even if some are lying and do cash shop i've seen about 20 people admit to selling accounts already.

What are you expecting PWE to do? Seriously, what? Ban the new accounts everyone created? Or ban the accounts that were sold? Or should they ban both the sold accounts and the new accounts?

=========
I could say "I don't CS" today, and tomorrow decide to use the CS.

Did I lie since for many months I had no intention of using the CS and sometime after making the statement decided to use the CS? In order for my earlier statement to be a lie I would have to have foreknowledge of what I would do in the future which no one really has.

Fact is, I can say "I don't CS" today, and tomorrow decide to use the CS because it's called changing my mind. People are allowed to change their mind, you know.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear · March 2009

@lit

being he/she a kid that means their parents are doing things wrong. kids are supposed to study and have physical activities.

being he/she an adult, that mostly means a failure in life.

regarding the time of continuous play, I've seen far worse things. some even die because of it.

Dunno - Dreamweaver · March 2009

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear wrote: »

@lit

being he/she a kid that means their parents are doing things wrong. kids are supposed to study and have physical activities.

being he/she an adult, that mostly means a failure in life.

regarding the time of continuous play, I've seen far worse things. some even die because of it.

Dude, that's conservative. You imply that everyone should have exactly same kind of "life" by first going school/sports and then continuing to "not fail" as you put it, maybe by working I don't know.

No one can say what other person does with it's freetime or life for that matter (with exception of illegality, but that's not within this conversation). If someone wants to play video game rather than football, who are you to judge?

That's bit closeminded comment imo.

Gratz to the people around lvl 80 in new servers. Even though I don't like oracle effect myself, I can't deny your achievement b:surrender

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No, you're simply coloring it with your bias.

Its biased cause you personally see and think it that way, regardless it being explained as a nuetral post. But I dont expect much from someone who tweaks others' posts and then criticizing them as slighting others. I find it amusing that in forums, when a nuetral opinion is made that is opposite of someones own, pple like you come along and point a bias finger when their own posts are rejected against the other. Whereas in a RL discussion, you wouldnt have this. Someone who talks like that below would just be given a que*er eye:

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No, you're simply coloring it with your bias.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Of course you do because that way you can feel superior by slighting them.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Fixed the part . b:pleased

At least I can say my posts contain things that can be discussed about. These just seem like simple come-backs with nothing to back up.

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Its biased cause you personally see and think it that way, regardless it being explained as a nuetral post. But I dont expect much from someone who tweaks others' posts and then criticizing them as slighting others. I find it amusing that in forums, when a nuetral opinion is made that is opposite of someones own, pple like you come along and point a bias finger when their own posts are rejected against the other. Whereas in a RL discussion, you wouldnt have this. Someone who talks like that below would just be given a que*er eye:

At least I can say my posts contain things that can be discussed about. These just seem like simple come-backs with nothing to back up.

What? Did you want a 10 page essay on it? Or are you miffed I made longer responses to other people? b:puzzled

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What? Did you want a 10 page essay on it?

lol b:thanks NOW I know im not talking to a college grad.
Ive previewed 30-40 pg papers, come back to me when your up to that lvl dear. And make sure you take speech classes so pple in the future dont look wide eye at you when you blurt out one sentense responses each time in discussions.

King_Solomon - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Dunno - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Dude, that's conservative. You imply that everyone should have exactly same kind of "life" by first going school/sports and then continuing to "not fail" as you put it, maybe by working I don't know.

not studying means you won't be qualified for most well-paid jobs. wanna live with your parents forever or in poverty?

doing sports is important for health.

Dunno - Dreamweaver wrote: »

No one can say what other person does with it's freetime or life for that matter (with exception of illegality, but that's not within this conversation). If someone wants to play video game rather than football, who are you to judge?

That's bit closeminded comment imo.

Yes, I'm wrong to judge It's a proven fact there are more and more obese children with high cholesterol due to minimal - if any - physical activities and also wrong judging their lower social interactivity compromises anything.

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol b:thanks NOW I know im not talking to a college grad.
Ive previewed 30-40 pg papers, come back to me when your up to that lvl dear. And make sure you take speech classes so pple in the future dont look wide eye at you when you blurt out one sentense responses each time in discussions.

Well, you're talking to a university grad with a 3.85 GPA now, and frankly you're not coming across very well.

First, you invoke the argument that people who spend (what you consider to be) too much time/money on the game don't have a life and are losers. Then you invoke social prejudism against all those who do not possess a college degree, because you clearly believe accusing somebody of not having a college degree is an insult. Heck, why not just call him a (insert racial epitaph of your choice here), and be done with it?

You are in no position to judge the life-worth of others, yet you do so anyway. Bully for you, I guess you win. In fact, I'm absolutely sure that you are a "better" person than me, because I have no legitimate way of scoring myself any higher than any other person who is playing this game, yet you clearly do have a set of standards that makes you better than the rest of us.

doremi12 · March 2009

Nayiro - Sanctuary wrote: »

Harshlands has been out for a month or so, maybe less, and there is already a lvl 79.

I've been playing this game since November and im only lvl 77.

You do the math.

This is sad

(on my part)

It is possible to be L100 in 23 days if you know how b:victory

Nayiro - Sanctuary · March 2009

doremi12 wrote: »

It is possible to be L100 in 23 days if you know how b:victory

I read somewhere that from lvl 100 to 101 takes 144 hours of non-stop (literally) AoE/Zhenning

So im guessing 99-100 takes a loooooong itme

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear · March 2009

----In Harshlands or dreamweaver----

Guy: Hey mate can you help with FB29? you're level 79

Level 79 dude: No sorry I don't have enough reputation

Guy: zomg why? how much rep you have?

Level 79 dude: I have 100 reputation because I oracled my levels

Guy: wow you suck *shoots level 79 dude in head*

Level 30 dude: I have 700 reputation I will help *hoorah*

and they lived happily ever after

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol b:thanks NOW I know im not talking to a college grad.
Ive previewed 30-40 pg papers, come back to me when your up to that lvl dear. And make sure you take speech classes so pple in the future dont look wide eye at you when you blurt out one sentense responses each time in discussions.

There are so many spelling and grammatical errors in that post that I'm rather surprised you would even manage to pass a basic English class.

Oh, and please refer to the bottom line in my sig since it fits you oh so well, deary.

Suiryujin - Sanctuary · March 2009

Deceptistar - Sanctuary wrote: »

lol b:thanks NOW I know im not talking to a college grad.
Ive previewed 30-40 pg papers, come back to me when your up to that lvl dear. And make sure you take speech classes so pple in the future dont look wide eye at you when you blurt out one sentense responses each time in discussions.

what does being a college grad had to do with anything? more than 99% of the stuff i learn in college i do not use here. english class, psh since when do online games need college lvl compositions. calc and high mather math... yea... only when u want to figure out the equations they use for dmg reduction. chem physic bio no good there. geography, geology, psyc, media, comp sci name it and find a subject that does matter to how well u can play a game.
(the 1% are like random words u would pick up from college that u would use here)

oh btw, there are people who play games for a living, they have perfectly fine social life, just maybe not the same kind society generally expect and think is normal.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »

First, you invoke the argument that people who spend (what you consider to be) too much time/money on the game don't have a life and are losers..

Well 1) this is a discussion thread. What else are we suppose to post? I invoked an argument which was not directed toward any specific individual, as do 80% on the posts on this forum. OMGLAZERZ was the first to direct a personal one towards me, with his 'fixing' post. To fix is to correct, and to correct is clearly a black and white of you are wrong and I am right, said in a round about way. Which he then finishes with
"Of course you do because that way you can feel superior by slighting them."
which I find extremely contradictory.

And no I did not call anyone a loser, that would be a conclusion you jumped to. If I meant it, I would be pretty blunt about it. I would use that word, although I admit it would make me feel a bit bad later.

I think you need to read back on the prior pages because your post here seems only to be focused on my last post. I usually do not attack pple on a thread unless one, they make the first move. Or two, they are personally hounding down others that are making an experimental/new idea topic.

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »

There are so many spelling and grammatical errors in that post that I'm rather surprised you would even manage to pass a basic English class.

Oh, and please refer to the bottom line in my sig since it fits you oh so well, deary.

Open ur eiz thur wuz nu naem calin b:chuckle

Deceptistar - Sanctuary · March 2009

Suiryujin - Sanctuary wrote: »

what does being a college grad had to do with anything? more than 99% of the stuff i learn in college i do not use here. english class, psh since when do online games need college lvl compositions. calc and high mather math... yea... only when u want to figure out the equations they use for dmg reduction. chem physic bio no good there. geography, geology, psyc, media, comp sci name it and find a subject that does matter to how well u can play a game.
(the 1% are like random words u would pick up from college that u would use here)

oh btw, there are people who play games for a living, they have perfectly fine social life, just maybe not the same kind society generally expect and think is normal.

Pls read the prior pages before responding to a single post in an argument.

And yes I know there are pple who play games for a living, I have worked in the translating department on that. Most of whome HAVE been in this genre of work tho would not consider it "playing games for a living" because mostly what you do is test and test and test and test. Half of the time your looking at the same screens over again writing a report ready to be sent overseas. Maybe 10min every hour you do get time to actually enjoy a game, because your work can wait a little. Those jobs are not something that is enough to say they play games for a living (QA's and GMs). If not, then they are just most likely a part time game tester.

This is sad.....

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