phonix or herc ?

Venommax - Lost City
Venommax - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
edited March 2009 in Venomancer
at lvl60 i will have the mony for a phonix or herc i dont know wich one to buy
i am thinking to buy phonix cous it kill's faster and i dont need a herc at lvl 60 for hh's cous in the 1st hh you cant do any profit at all but you can grind faster = faster mony.
but wath is the point to buy a herc can i solo my fb 69 when i am 69 and get some nice drop or solo in higer hh and do profit and at wath lvl is profitabel to go in HH solo/pt
1) can i solo fb 59 with herc?
2)can i solo fb 69 with herc?
3)at wath lvl is profitabel hh solo and wich hh?
4)wich is more profitabel solo hh or with a pt?
5) if cant solo fb 59/69 at lvl 59/69 at wath lvl can i with a herc
6)if i dont buy nothing from lvl 60 to 70 can i save up for phonix or herc?
HELP PLSSSSSSSS
i do now 400000 to 500000 pure coin's /lvl
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  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    at lvl60 i will have the mony for a phonix or herc i dont know wich one to buy
    i am thinking to buy phonix cous it kill's faster and i dont need a herc at lvl 60 for hh's cous in the 1st hh you cant do any profit at all but you can grind faster = faster mony.
    but wath is the point to buy a herc can i solo my fb 69 when i am 69 and get some nice drop or solo in higer hh and do profit and at wath lvl is profitabel to go in HH solo/pt
    1) can i solo fb 59 with herc?
    2)can i solo fb 69 with herc?
    3)at wath lvl is profitabel hh solo and wich hh?
    4)wich is more profitabel solo hh or with a pt?
    5) if cant solo fb 59/69 at lvl 59/69 at wath lvl can i with a herc
    6)if i dont buy nothing from lvl 60 to 70 can i save up for phonix or herc?
    HELP PLSSSSSSSS
    i do now 400000 to 500000 pure coin's /lvl


    Hooked on Phonics, worked for me!



    1.yes
    2.no
    3.all of them starting at 60
    4.solo with herc
    5.can't do 69
    6.probably you'd be in good shape
    you'll make more money/level the higher level you get.
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  • Devarsi - Sanctuary
    Devarsi - Sanctuary Posts: 542 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    fb 69 can't be solo'd by a herc because the last 2 bosses have aoes that will wipe the veno.. and even if you can survive the aoe spamming potions .. polearm has a nasty debuff.. and since venos can't purify .. your poor little herc will drop very very fast
  • Hisuna - Sanctuary
    Hisuna - Sanctuary Posts: 1,071 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    fb 69 can't be solo'd by a herc because the last 2 bosses have aoes that will wipe the veno.. and even if you can survive the aoe spamming potions .. polearm has a nasty debuff.. and since venos can't purify .. your poor little herc will drop very very fast

    I'm relatively certain that the debuff polearm uses is the same one that krimson uses, if that gives you any idea as to how bad it is. The difference being that polearm is a lot stronger than krimson, debuff or no debuff lol.
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  • Venommax - Lost City
    Venommax - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    so the point is thet hercules is usfull only after lvl 7x+ and if you have the mony at lvl 50-60 for one off the cash shop pet's go for phonix or am i somwher wrong?
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Hooked on Phonics, worked for me!

    Depends what you want to do. Nix you'll level faster. Get a herc and you can farm yourself a nix in a week or two.
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  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    fb 69 can't be solo'd by a herc because the last 2 bosses have aoes that will wipe the veno.. and even if you can survive the aoe spamming potions .. polearm has a nasty debuff.. and since venos can't purify .. your poor little herc will drop very very fast

    At level 86 or 87 I was able to tank Damned Gaurnob or whatever his name is with my Herc. Sure the curse makes Herc take heavy damage, but I was able to spam heal faster than the damage. With a light armor build too, so I had less magic.

    Polearm on the other hand will just debuff and one shot.
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  • Venommax - Lost City
    Venommax - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Depends what you want to do. Nix you'll level faster. Get a herc and you can farm yourself a nix in a week or two.

    you are wrong actualy at lvl 60 a phonix is much beter then a hercules.
    herc is usfull after lvl 7x+
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    you are wrong actualy at lvl 60 a phonix is much beter then a hercules.
    herc is usfull after lvl 7x+

    Except the phoenix wont really help you get a herc at any level.
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    you are wrong actualy at lvl 60 a phonix is much beter then a hercules.
    herc is usfull after lvl 7x+

    I don't get what you're saying at all.

    First of all this is getting annoying, study phonics and maybe you'll understand how to spell PHOENIX

    at level 60, a phoenix is great for leveling, sure. But you can do that with a herc too (aoe at ykd for example)

    The herc will make you money because it will be cake to solo hh and sell mats. If you get a cleric to go with you you can do 1-1 party mode easy and make lots of money. I bet a mid 6x herc could even do 2-1.

    Obviously the nix is better for pvp, that's a given.

    If you're planning on buying both, its much easier to get the herc first and the nix second. You can definitely do it the other way, but it will take longer.
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  • Kristiona - Heavens Tear
    Kristiona - Heavens Tear Posts: 216 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I would def get herc first due to the fact most quest are on land. Also the herc can help you in instances where the phoenix can't.
  • Foxx - Heavens Tear
    Foxx - Heavens Tear Posts: 464 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    > 1) can i solo fb 59 with herc?
    yes

    > 2)can i solo fb 69 with herc?
    no, the last 2 bosses will be a problem for herc

    > 3)at wath lvl is profitabel hh solo and wich hh?
    60. Pay your 1 ultimate substance and go kill chin and drum on tt1-1 solo. You will end up making money. (but it wont be great)

    > 4)wich is more profitabel solo hh or with a pt?
    Solo I would say.

    > 5) if cant solo fb 59/69 at lvl 59/69 at wath lvl can i with a herc
    Forget about fb69, though you can kill the first boss for your culti quest at probably around low 70's. fb59 you can solo probably at 59, tho the bosses will take a long time to die, and it will be a long painful clearing without wine. Enjoy the mobs that run away and go high up on the walls.

    > 6)if i dont buy nothing from lvl 60 to 70 can i save up for phonix or herc?
    > HELP PLSSSSSSSS
    No. You need about 22 million coins and I doubt you will get that much from 60 to 70.

    In reply to the thread topic, I would say get a herc, because you can use it to make money to buy your phoenix. Phoenix is useless to make money unless you want to grind grind grind (or maybe pk people? dont know about this)
  • Venommax - Lost City
    Venommax - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I don't get what you're saying at all.

    First of all this is getting annoying, study phonics and maybe you'll understand how to spell PHOENIX

    at level 60, a phoenix is great for leveling, sure. But you can do that with a herc too (aoe at ykd for example)

    The herc will make you money because it will be cake to solo hh and sell mats. If you get a cleric to go with you you can do 1-1 party mode easy and make lots of money. I bet a mid 6x herc could even do 2-1.

    Obviously the nix is better for pvp, that's a given.

    If you're planning on buying both, its much easier to get the herc first and the nix second. You can definitely do it the other way, but it will take longer.
    my point is thet when i am lvl 60 HH is hard but grinding is not and i also think i can save up till lvl 70 let say 75 for a hercules to why am i sure about this cous now i am lvl 49 and i save 400000-500000 coins/lvl so tell me why to stay in hh when i can get a hercules/lvl with grinding and go in HH when i am higer lvl hunt easy and maybe for higer HH mats wich cost even more.
    in short phoenix=fast kill =more lvl= faster drop= hercules
  • Yourmom - Lost City
    Yourmom - Lost City Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    my point is thet when i am lvl 60 HH is hard but grinding is not and i also think i can save up till lvl 70 let say 75 for a hercules to why am i sure about this cous now i am lvl 49 and i save 400000-500000 coins/lvl so tell me why to stay in hh when i can get a hercules/lvl with grinding and go in HH when i am higer lvl hunt easy and maybe for higer HH mats wich cost even more.
    in short phoenix=fast kill =more lvl= faster drop= hercules

    HH is not hard at 60 with a herc. HH is not particularly hard with a golem after 65 or so.

    You can still grind with a herc. I think I mentioned aoe grinding at ykd. Its a different style grinding with herc and nix. With the nix you focus one mob at a time to take advantage of high attack. With herc you gather a lot at once to take advantage of reflect.

    Seems like you've got your heart set on phoenix, and that will probably work out fine for you. I got my nix first, pretty soon after it came out. I still don't have a herc. I just can't motivate myself to do solo hh runs like that anymore (though i do enough party mode hh to make up for the solo I'm not doing).
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  • Lolas - Heavens Tear
    Lolas - Heavens Tear Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I got a herc at around level 60. Unless you have access to 3 others to open squad mode for you, Don't get the herc expecting to make cash in TT. I could easily make double the cash just grinding as in tt. I suspect squad mode isn't the cash cow that all the non venos want you to believe either.

    I didn't get phoenix until after this event. so its only level 53. but I can already tell its going to be better for grinding than herc. I think it was a huge mistake doing it in the order I did. And would suggest you get the phoenix first.