Which boss/tt can herc tank? at lvl75

estelle
estelle Posts: 21 Arc User
edited March 2009 in General Discussion
Hi.. I finally got my Herc to lvl 75..
I have 2 question, it'll be nice if any veno expert can help.

Which boss can i tank or can't tank (eg: jewels / krimson)

Which TT BOSS can I solo?

Thanks in advance.

EDITED: I died so many time in tt1-2 squad mode by my self... the thing is, i can't tank and lure the same time.. any tips?????????
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  • Deadeyes - Dreamweaver
    Deadeyes - Dreamweaver Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Any solos of your level range i believe, but most squad mode bosses have aoes or debuffs making them impossible for venos to tank. 1-1 you can proly solo squad mode by 75 if you have alot of hp, meaning refines on all your gear and alot of hp shards, and an hp charm. Avoid the drummer and tentacle bosses on 1-2 squad, their aoe will likely kill you and they have some crazy damage even herc has issues with. The gold shard and snake bosses are doable if you are pure mag and have a good weapon. The problem with bosses though is alot of the higher ones have debuffs which make pets fairly worthless.
  • FionaCattail - Sanctuary
    FionaCattail - Sanctuary Posts: 405 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    my herc at 77 could tank TT1-2 (if you skip Drummer and Soulbanisher).. just that some of the fights (Dimentora) are EXTREMELY long.. make sure you have alot of mana replenishments along :P
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  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Deadeyes - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Any solos of your level range i believe, but most squad mode bosses have aoes or debuffs making them impossible for venos to tank. 1-1 you can proly solo squad mode by 75 if you have alot of hp, meaning refines on all your gear and alot of hp shards, and an hp charm. Avoid the drummer and tentacle bosses on 1-2 squad, their aoe will likely kill you and they have some crazy damage even herc has issues with. The gold shard and snake bosses are doable if you are pure mag and have a good weapon. The problem with bosses though is alot of the higher ones have debuffs which make pets fairly worthless.

    Wtf? I thought herc was like a god tank. This is the first I've heard of bosses than can debuff and makes ur herc worthless. So where do venos with hercs make all that money people always talk about?
  • Enina - Heavens Tear
    Enina - Heavens Tear Posts: 263 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Venos can sell eggs to each other, sell the eggs for all-class pets, sell the all-class pets, tame the rare pets and sell to each other, and overall have a lot fewer repair and charm costs than the rest of us (in theory, all a veno has to do is to heal her pet). Venos can also be very selective with their skills, as some venos do not even touch Foxform, and as a result, don't need to buy any of the skills within that skillset - cutting away approximately half the skills they otherwise could spend coin on.

    However, while a Herc+Veno fulfills the exact same purpose as a Tank+Cleric, the Veno cannot un-debuff her Herc, and she is unable to stack heals. So while a Herc comes with very powerful self-buffs, it will go down just as quickly as any other character when hit with the powerful debuffs that some bosses give out like candy on Halloween.
  • King_Solomon - Heavens Tear
    King_Solomon - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,341 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    jewelscalen and krimson are very hard for venos to solo. you'll probably lose xp if you try. jewel because of high range aoe and krimson because it hits magic, phys and curses.
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  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wtf? I thought herc was like a god tank. This is the first I've heard of bosses than can debuff and makes ur herc worthless. So where do venos with hercs make all that money people always talk about?

    Pretty much almost every debuff boss makes Herc useless. No purify = no defense. Herc will be able to stand up against Curse damage at certain levels, but not debuff.

    If you want to tank squad modes, you can try dual healing from two venos, like drum in 1-2. At a certain level you can solo heal against drum along with Soul Banisher.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    Wtf? I thought herc was like a god tank. This is the first I've heard of bosses than can debuff and makes ur herc worthless. So where do venos with hercs make all that money people always talk about?
    ALMOST ANY boss that debuffs is death for a Herc or Nix of equal or even 5-10 levels higher. Gargantakong toasts my Herc repeatedly (and me shortly after) if I try to solo him. Although with another Veno my level we can 'just' manage to keep my pet alive. Barely.

    Non-Veno's makes wild claims about Veno's w/o knowing the actual facts. They hear some rumor somewhere that Veno's pets are God and can solo anything in the game and then spew it back later and swear up and down it's the absolute truth, even when Veno's tell them otherwise.

    1-2 Squad mode with Lord of Percussion and his AOE are virtually impossible w/o a cleric with BB till the Veno is MUCH higher than the TT entrance requirements. Even then you need MP charms and powders to keep up your pet heal. Non stop spam heal on pet is all that will keep him alive.

    That chews your mana faster than most might think. I died repeatedly to Lord of Percussion before I realized my charm wasn't going to tick fast enough to counter his AOE. Tried charms and powders and potions, and still died. brought in a cleric with BB and had her stand back some with BB triggered and I managed ok. but I was barely able to keep my Herc up. Had no time for anything but non stop spam healing of my pet that triggered my MP charm 30+ times (lost count after 30).

    That is why I have stopped bothering to even argue with the whiners about Veno's being Gods of TT. and able to solo it all sooo easily. They don't know what their talking about.

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  • Literature - Harshlands
    Literature - Harshlands Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Ahh well I guess herc being able to solo endgame bosses and squad mode dungeons would be a bit much. But so far I'm satisfied with mine. FB29 mobs were no problem at 33. Tanked Krixix at lvl 35 10x easier than my lvl 50 golem. And with the golem I can't even stop healing or it will die. b:chuckle

    Still worth it even if he can't solo all that endgame and squad stuff.
  • Daerys - Sanctuary
    Daerys - Sanctuary Posts: 1,022 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Literature - Harshlands wrote: »
    Ahh well I guess herc being able to solo endgame bosses and squad mode dungeons would be a bit much. But so far I'm satisfied with mine. FB29 mobs were no problem at 33. Tanked Krixix at lvl 35 10x easier than my lvl 50 golem. And with the golem I can't even stop healing or it will die. b:chuckle

    Still worth it even if he can't solo all that endgame and squad stuff.

    For the most part herc can tank anything without a nasty aoe or debuff, with only a few cases of "they just hit too hard".
  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    estelle wrote: »
    Hi.. I finally got my Herc to lvl 75..
    I have 2 question, it'll be nice if any veno expert can help.

    Which boss can i tank or can't tank (eg: jewels / krimson)

    Which TT BOSS can I solo?

    Thanks in advance.

    Pretty much any boss that doesn't use curse or debuff like armor break etc since u cant purify.

    At your lvl you should tank all bosses in 1-2 beside Lord of Percussion/Soulbanisher easy. I wasn't able to tank those 2 until like lvl 78+. And always bring cleric that blue bubble or get smashed by aoe.
    But snake/armour boss and chintien are easy and doable from lvl 70+. Percussion/Soulbanisher i say wait til lvl 78+ and bring cleric.

    I think you prolly can tank snake, armour, chintien in 1-3 as well at your lvl.They dont hit that hard. But armor has a pretty nasty aoe when you call back pet to position him, so might be hard to that at lvl 75. But dont try Percussion/Soulbanisher in 1-3 until lvl 85+.

    In 2-1 just horse, doggy and first boss until like lvl 80. U can tank ape maybe at lvl 77 but than u need cleric with red ball to keep up the heals cuz he hits hard. And general feng i doubt any herc will ever be able to tank ^^

    Dont think u can tank anything in 2-2 yet. Maybe first boss if u have cleric with red bubble and horse if u have cleric with blue bubble. But i think wait til lvl 80 better.

    Other than that id say use pvp pots if youre soloing partymode. Make sure youre fully buffed. I use speed pot + bramble to avoid having to kill 2000 trashmobs and dmg reduction pots, ress scrolls and dolls b:surrender. And its nice to bring a cleric for blue ball + ress + buffs + dd and red ball or w/e u need at a certain bosses. Full run 1-2 still takes me like 2 hours at least if i go alone. In a party it takes like 30 min...but than u have to split loot with 6 ppl ^_^
  • MentalEdge - Heavens Tear
    MentalEdge - Heavens Tear Posts: 629 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    Pretty much any boss that doesn't use curse or debuff like armor break etc since u cant purify.

    At your lvl you should tank all bosses in 1-2 beside Lord of Percussion/Soulbanisher easy. I wasn't able to tank those 2 until like lvl 78+. And always bring cleric that blue bubble or get smashed by aoe.
    But snake/armour boss and chintien are easy and doable from lvl 70+. Percussion/Soulbanisher i say wait til lvl 78+ and bring cleric.

    I think you prolly can tank snake, armour, chintien in 1-3 as well at your lvl.They dont hit that hard. But armor has a pretty nasty aoe when you call back pet to position him, so might be hard to that at lvl 75. But dont try Percussion/Soulbanisher in 1-3 until lvl 85+.

    In 2-1 just horse, doggy and first boss until like lvl 80. U can tank ape maybe at lvl 77 but than u need cleric with red ball to keep up the heals cuz he hits hard. And general feng i doubt any herc will ever be able to tank ^^

    Dont think u can tank anything in 2-2 yet. Maybe first boss if u have cleric with red bubble and horse if u have cleric with blue bubble. But i think wait til lvl 80 better.

    Other than that id say use pvp pots if youre soloing partymode. Make sure youre fully buffed. I use speed pot + bramble to avoid having to kill 2000 trashmobs and dmg reduction pots, ress scrolls and dolls b:surrender. And its nice to bring a cleric for blue ball + ress + buffs + dd and red ball or w/e u need at a certain bosses. Full run 1-2 still takes me like 2 hours at least if i go alone. In a party it takes like 30 min...but than u have to split loot with 6 ppl ^_^

    General feng is pretty easy at 78 and onwards,his hp debuff barely affects herc if at all,and a charm protects yourself easily from the aoe,just drops junk..are you sure you din't mean wurlord?Hes the only one that is a real pain in the ****.
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  • estelle
    estelle Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Thanks everyone.. thanks gasoline.. thats very detailed info.. ;)
  • estelle
    estelle Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I died so many time in tt1-2 squad mode by my self... the thing is, i can't tank and lure the same time.. any tips?????????

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