What other class does LC need?

Posts: 250 Arc User
edited March 2009 in Twilight Temple (West)
Well BM's officially suck and are teh most useless class (along with mages)

Now i'm level 70 i need a new character, something that **** other people...So I was thinking either archer or veno i'm thinking. So any ideas on a pwning char would be appreciated, spanking you :)
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  • Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I'm thinking its you that just sucks.
  • Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I'm thinking its you that just sucks.

    Agreed.

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  • Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I am not exactly sure why you think BM's and Mages suc. There are plenty of reasons as to why both classes are great. Maybe you just have not played it right or stated it right. Therefore you do not have everything you need to be effective. I know a lot of BM's who can own a lot of other classes.

    I would be curious as to your reasoning for such a statement.
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  • Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Moog, your just a G@Y :) Gtfo out of my thread.
    I am not exactly sure why you think BM's and Mages suc. There are plenty of reasons as to why both classes are great. Maybe you just have not played it right or stated it right. Therefore you do not have everything you need to be effective. I know a lot of BM's who can own a lot of other classes.

    I would be curious as to your reasoning for such a statement.

    Well alot of mage info comes from this forum, alot of people say it suck so it mus tsuck. I'm not gonna' waste my time on something that doesn't seem very useful in pvp.

    As for bms I just think their useless, they're not a tanking class (but they can on some) theyre not a DD...All they really have is stun, and when you put BM vs a BM/Barb its who got the best heiro providing they're within a certain level range that is. And alot of the people I want to pk are barbs and wrs.

    Another thing is vs archers if they have a heiro bm sucks, if theyre close to your level, granted im not high level or anything. Maybe once I get some calamity axes this may change but for now i'm just thinking they suck. In part some of the reasoning falls behind how archers/venos can ****, especially with the distance attack. Also another issue with BM's ive found is the lack of dex, when it comes to fighting some classes i miss quite alot, and i have 80 dex atm. If anything I just see BM's as a back up class, nothing else. Because they can't pk on their own (unless its low level noob your attacking or they dont have a heiro)

    I did have other reasons but I forgot the majority.

    Drew (Sinnerz) told me though it's not 'til higher levels that BM's really shine, how true could this be?

    But effectivley its not to replace breadbun, it's to just make a pvp orientated character and something else to do other than whacking off mobs for measley exp.
  • Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Moog, your just a G@Y :) Gtfo out of my thread.
    Well alot of mage info comes from this forum, alot of people say it suck so it mus tsuck. I'm not gonna' waste my time on something that doesn't seem very useful in pvp.

    As for bms I just think their useless, they're not a tanking class (but they can on some) theyre not a DD...All they really have is stun, and when you put BM vs a BM/Barb its who got the best heiro providing they're within a certain level range that is. And alot of the people I want to pk are barbs and wrs.

    1) Mage's can be successful at PVP, you just have to learn to play them right. And I think that taking what all others have to say at face value is ignorant on your part, however you are free to think as you like. I personally could not imagine playing another class. Eventually I will try one out though for fun.

    2) As far as BM's being useless....I think that you have not mastered and leveled your class right then.

    3) If you want to pk Barbs and WF, making a Barb/WF may not solve your so-called "pk dilemma." It is just going to be a battle of skill, unless you like to pk all of those extremely under your level so you can "win."

    A lot of the time it is all in the skill and not in the class.....
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  • Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    bm's are way better later in the game, best pvp class imo
  • Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    1) Mage's can be successful at PVP, you just have to learn to play them right. And I think that taking what all others have to say at face value is ignorant on your part, however you are free to think as you like. I personally could not imagine playing another class. Eventually I will try one out though for fun.

    2) As far as BM's being useless....I think that you have not mastered and leveled your class right then.

    3) If you want to pk Barbs and WF, making a Barb/WF may not solve your so-called "pk dilemma." It is just going to be a battle of skill, unless you like to pk all of those extremely under your level so you can "win."

    A lot of the time it is all in the skill and not in the class.....

    Hardly ignorant, that's why I made this thread...For suggestions, I threw in my two choices now this is where everyone throws in theirs, assuming your a mage feel free to say wheather their good or not etc...I did fight one and got pwned i think it was an 80+ one too. But yeh i'm just wanting advice not a flame war of which class is better...Hell if people say BM is good enough do xxx or wait til' xxx i'll consider trying it. Same with mage, but yeh if you can enlighten me on mages that would be helpful.

    I'm pretty good (i like to think) with my BM, granted don't have all the skills leveled yet, nor do I have the best gears...But tying this in with #3 yeh i want to pk barbs are wrs (not wfs) but their is literally no skill involved pking the same type of barb/wr as you if their the same level or higher or a lil bit lower...And i base this on experiance...Look at holyfang, i was level 67 or 68 and he tried to pk me in swamps and failed miserably, it wasn't until a wizard jumped in to help him that i died, granted i had a heiro and was potting and attacking him back...Same thing with booyah, I think he had a cleric help him to pk me...There was one BM that actually managed to kill me though i wasnt potting, just stood their...So it's not like i'm just pull stuff from my ****, i'm basing this from experiences.

    I did try that random pking of low levels and its really boring did it at heavens tear a king of the hill kind of thing...And not for me, not as fun i even WC'D for others to come but no one came :(

    Alot of why i'm confused now is, with this genie thing and blood clot (i assume) will make venos a lil bit weaker with their flesh ream skill or w/e it's called...And archers with that distance thing if they're within meele range damage is reduced.
  • Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    bm's are way better later in the game, best pvp class imo

    Whys that?
  • Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    If everyone said jumping off a cliff was cool...


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  • Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    If everyone said jumping off a cliff was cool...


    Humans aren't for the faint of heart.

    I jumped of a huge bridge once, does that count?
  • Posts: 867 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    More non greedy barbs please
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  • Posts: 253 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    More non greedy barbs please

    Yes can i help you?^^



    @ Thread starter.......BM's suck? Go watch Athran pk, then lets see if your opinion still stands.
    Sigh Athran convinced me to play a barb when i started.......but itell u THIS. If i knew THEN what i know NOW......i would've rolled a BM.
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  • Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    "Too bad our fight wasn't a show... the least I could have done is kill you in style."
    There was this BM that pk'd me and said these exact same words... It made me want to play a BM, But I hate close combat. They're totally cool and the best pvp class in the game (on land)
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  • Posts: 289 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    More non greedy barbs please

    OMG cora... totally agreed... and hurry lv up to at least 80 plz
  • Posts: 598 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I find that to be good at pvp on a wiz, you need your skills to be upgraded as much as they can, because a lot of it its situational and if I only upgrade my core, then when that situation comes I'm in trouble. Wizs are hard, and some times I'm wishing I went cleric, but I dueled a lvl 64 barb in my guild after I spent about 900k on upgrading skills and I rolled him....made me feel good to be a wiz lol.

    Bm's scare me when my blink is on recharge.b:surrender
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  • Posts: 174 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    If you are a BM stun is your best offense and defensive skill. If you are not stunning your targets then you suck.

    Please reroll a venomancer.
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  • Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Yes can i help you?^^



    @ Thread starter.......BM's suck? Go watch Athran pk, then lets see if your opinion still stands.
    Sigh Athran convinced me to play a barb when i started.......but itell u THIS. If i knew THEN what i know NOW......i would've rolled a BM.

    Am I seeing this right? Did he just use Athran as an example of a good BM? Just because he has +21384523487 gear doesn't make him good. He is by far one of the worst high level BM's in the server.
  • Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Nix > *, mkay?
  • Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    an english class.
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  • Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    BMs has the most skills that you can take advantage on pvp, such as stuns. i hate them :<
  • Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    an english class.

    QFT.

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  • Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Honestly if u go archer its the easiest kinda char to pk people. Robes are putty until lvl 90+ as long as they are within 10 lvls of u. You will not be able to kill a 80+ barb 1 vs 1 until u get triple spark and string some crits. Barbs arent ment to be taken 1 vs 1 or they fail bad at their class. If u wanna be able to **** groups all alone then go veno with a nix. Barbs will still be able to tank u and ur nix so if its a barb u after all i can say is party pk the barb or dont even bother.
  • Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    mages are a sucky class in general but its still fun to play
    usually
  • Posts: 1,376 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    btw u do suck if u got to 70 and think bms suck

    what did u do? pool points into mag?
  • Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Archers are by far the best pk characters in the game, simply put "their range is no match to w/e you may throw at them".

    A skilled archer such as myself and my partner can solo kill a venomancer with a phoenix w/o getting a single tick on my hiero. It's your skill and they way you plan your PVP that comes 1st, the character you play is a tool to your genius... how you play it, is what makes it a weapon or just another tool.

    If the archer is a broadsword, the blademaster is a shotgun. Their potential is unlocked when you play it with skill (not the character skill but your pvp skill). The ability to swap weapons and having range and melee advantage and lets not forget the concept of chain stunning, makes the Blademaster one of the best PVP characters in this game.

    At the end of the day it all comes down to how you manipulate your character.
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  • Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    One word: Bowbarian b:cute
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  • Posts: 1,655 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    ch2h5oh wrote: »
    Archers are by far the best pk characters in the game, simply put "their range is no match to w/e you may throw at them".

    A skilled archer such as myself and my partner can solo kill a venomancer with a phoenix w/o getting a single tick on my hiero. It's your skill and they way you plan your PVP that comes 1st, the character you play is a tool to your genius... how you play it, is what makes it a weapon or just another tool.

    If the archer is a broadsword, the blademaster is a shotgun. Their potential is unlocked when you play it with skill (not the character skill but your pvp skill). The ability to swap weapons and having range and melee advantage and lets not forget the concept of chain stunning, makes the Blademaster one of the best PVP characters in this game.

    At the end of the day it all comes down to how you manipulate your character.


    I feel like the archer vs. phoenix fight can really go either way depending on skill, and who gets the first hits in. If i stun an archer, then nix stun, i'm already close enough to purge/amp and then stun again (fox form stun) if i want to. By then the archer is at melee range, has bleed on them, and I can cast usually get a spell off before they get out of my range.

    However, I've also been stuck in the opposite situation by an archer where stun shot and aim low kept me out of spell casting distance and they just tanked the nix while shooting me and I couldn't do much of anything about it.


    There aren't a whole lot of good blademasters on the server, but I've been in a couple fights where I just couldn't move. That's annoying. If i can get into fox form though, I can survive that for a bit (and hopefully break their chain) since the stuns don't hurt a lot until they drop dragons.
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  • Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    <srsbsns>As a mage, I am offended by this thread.</srsbsns>

    I totally won a duel with a barb in guild one lvl above me yesterday, though. I felt all cool and stuff. And then a phoenix one shot me. b:surrender

    @YM: Archers are an easy kill if I ever get close enough to HIT the ****ers. :(
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  • Posts: 265 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    LC need less archers. Too many archers on this game. Will be hard for you to get into TW if not one of the top archers.

    Last post.
  • Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    lmao Athran??????who got 3 skills by a fail EA???b:laughb:laughb:laugh
    They can run...but they cant hide!!!b:laugh

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