Problem - PK'ers !

The definition of pk is as follows: Engaging in the act of Player Killing in a multiplayer game through legitimate OR illegitimate means.

Unfortunately until PWI recognizes and creates punishment for grief playing it will continue. No one should have to endure the constant pk the illegitimate way. I find this only goes on with the USA servers of perfect World, the International servers you will find random people who choose to pk for no reason, but is extremely rare. This is why I won't play on a PW pvp server in the USA. A solution would be to start creating guilds that are against grief players who choose to pk the illegitimate way. Put a Price on their head and have your guildies and other guildies create alliances, and hunt them down and kill them over and over. Eventually, once these USA pk'rs realize you are serious and the guilds aren't going to tolerate it anymore, you will see a change. I also, the 3 times I have been pk'd the illegitimate way on the International servers I have sent them a love gift and a thank you for killing me and how it made me quiver with delight. I have made friends with each of them now. You need to also take screen shots of the harassment, chat and etc. and send in support tickets. I hope this helps.....

Vanya

Literature - Harshlands wrote: »

It's because what you do in this game reflects who you are irl.

So he's saying that when theres no consequences, humans should lose all self control.

That is not what he said. I don't know how you're skewing it to make it say that, but it's not there.

Thats stupid. Thats why I can't turn on the news without seeing some crazy **** that U.S soldiers are doing over in those foreign countries. It's because they feel like theres no consequences.

Do you believe everything that is on the news is 100% accurate with no spin at all?

So every hardcore pker/griefer needs to go kill themselves. You are a potential menace to society.

Know what's worse than someone PKing a toon repeatedly in a game?

Telling them to go kill themselves because you cannot separate a virtual reality from the real world.

Eaglesw - Lost City wrote: »

Hello
I am a regular player or Perfect World , on the server Lost City , me and my friends ( and I guess not just me or my friends ) got some problem with player killing. I know that Lost City is a PvP ( Player Vs Player ) but the problem is the following : Me and my friends got PK'ed like 1-5 times ( maybe more ) by one guy that allways come back to the place where he finds us , and we cannot leave the place because we got to do a quest there. This won't be a problem if he pk'ed us like 1 time and then he leave ! And this thing didn't happen only once , it happen a lot of times , is there any rule for pk'ers?
Thanks , maybe there will be a solution.
I will be back and post some more about this problem.

YOUR FAREGAME MATE BETTER GET USE TO IT.b:surrender

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

Then again. I wouldn't mind if the entire human race died either so meh.

~S

wtf? emo

You can die first. lol... one less person in the human race right? lol...I think that statement is funny.

Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »

If there were no consequences (i.e. prison) to killing someone in real life, I can think of a few people I wouldn't mind seeing impaled, drawn and quartered, boiled in oil alive, etc. But there are RL consequences and while I might hate those MF's enough to toast them if there were none, I like my freedoms entirely too much to act on it so don't.

Then again. I wouldn't mind if the entire human race died either so meh.

~S

Easier said then done, people talk about murder and killing people as if it's so easy even if you hate someone to the full extent of hatred. It is still easier said then done, so I think who ever claims that they would kill someone in real life should stop talking now unless you've done it before.

- My opinion.

This is JUST my OPINION on the matter at hand. It doesn't mean that you have to agree with me. My only request is that you fully read my post, before you decide to flame it.

To the OP:
Many others have posted good advice about how to avoid this, I suggest you follow their advice. Disregard posts that are flaming in nature.

**Note**
I also noticed that a lot of the posts that were actually somewhat helpful, came from players on the PvP servers, and alot of the flaming posts came from players on the PvE servers. Please, do not misread this as me saying the ONLY helpful posts came from PvP players, and ALL the flaming posts came from PvE players. Much respect to ALL players who actually tried to help the OP.


About PvP/PK:
PvP is competition oriented. You build a character to test your skills and strategy against other players, hence, player vs. player. PK'ing, I believe is another form of competition. You PK someone, they'll want to PK you back, its like tag. You PK me, I PK you. We say grats and part ways. Not to mention, PK is a form of motivation, someone higher lvl than you PK's you, it makes you want to get that next lvl, so you have a better chance at surviving. However, I don't agree with players more than 5 lvls higher than their target PKing them, without some legitimate reason (i.e.-the PKer PK'ed one of your faction mates a substantial amount of lvls below them). If your 90+, honestly, what satisfaction can you gain from PKing someone 60 lvls lower than yourself? It makes you look petty, and cowardly. But people will do what they do, I'll be as high lvl as you eventually, and the fight will be fair.

Just a question, how would you gauge your skill if you don't kill the other player? Whack at each other until your fingers get tired? There has to be some way to be the victor. Yes that means someone loses. No that doesn't make them a noob, or any other derogatory name you can think of. It just means they'll have to try harder next time. We all start new in the game, you can't expect to win all the time from the beginning.

About relating PK to real life murder:
That is an extremist point of view. I don't believe the creators of this game, or any other game with PK implemented, actually advocate murder. They try to make the game enjoyable to all, its why they have PvE, and PvP servers, and blue names for the lowbies so the high lvls can't PK them from the start. I have met many, many helpful players in the game, on the LC server. And they PK as well as help people. Notable mention, FieryDevil, I watched her PK a lot of people in the secret passage, I just happened to be running behind her while she did this and we ended up in the same place. A boss, she actually partied me, and helped me to kill the boss. If she was as vicious and psychotic as some players have portrayed anybody who likes to PK, she would have turned on me and PK'ed me as well. I enjoy the PK aspect of the game. But in real life, I would never take someone else's life, unless it was to save my own, or someone I cared about. And only, ONLY if that was the only way to do it. If I could find a way to incapacitate whoever was trying to hurt us, rather than kill, I would take that option above all others.

Those posts that basically said "GTFO":
There is a better way to word it. The OP was respectful in his post, the least you could have done was show him the same respect.

Please remember, this is just my opinion. Which I am entitled to. And you are entitled to yours.

Whoa, have read the entire thread. First to the OP: I agree with most of the advice given. I would suggest going to a PVE server if you don't already have too much invested in that world, and just switch on PVP mode when you want to PVP. You could talk to the person and try to get them to stop pk'ing you, but there are 2 types of people here.
1. Those who are considerate enough to stop pk'ing you.
2. Those who put their own pleasure above yours.

If dealing with #2. All you can do is stop and do something else. Go to a completely different area, or try to find a higher lvl to help.

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For other conversations equating pk to rl murder. I can't tell if this was serious, or the posters are just really angry at being pk'ed.
This 'if there was no consequences' is a stupid argument, because there are consequences for every action, even for pk'ing in game. There's no magical consequence switch that turns consequences on and off so why even consider that?

For people saying pk'ers are scum. Pk'ing is a challenge. It's not always win and lose. If you get pk'ed, you learn what you did wrong so you can get better. Both players can get better from it. I don't understand what's wrong with scum, if all we're doing is trying to get better at playing the game. PVE gets boring for some people.

Saitada, your response reminds me of my favourite Bizzarro strip, with subtext "We now believe the only hope for the Earth is mass suicide. Care to join us?"

[QUOTE=Zoe - I may decide to participate in TW again however I won't be taking it seriously so I'll still be arcane build. Feel free to 1 shot me archers.
Also because I'm not being serious in TW, I'll use.......the bird. [/QUOTE]

what is up with this!?!?! you post it every where and it doesn't even make any sense! The bird? come one!

Shano - Lost City wrote: »

^^ check your lv

yeah, lvl fourteen. gotta problem with it?

GMs are highly unlikely to help you with this problem. the reasoning is-you chose that server, you must have wanted to be backshot every minute or so. thats why i left. when i first began playing PWI, i didnt know about PVP/PVE at all, and LC was the server on top of the list. once i learned, i left.

Eaglesw - Lost City wrote: »

Hello
I am a regular player or Perfect World , on the server Lost City , me and my friends ( and I guess not just me or my friends ) got some problem with player killing. I know that Lost City is a PvP ( Player Vs Player ) but the problem is the following : Me and my friends got PK'ed like 1-5 times ( maybe more ) by one guy that allways come back to the place where he finds us , and we cannot leave the place because we got to do a quest there. This won't be a problem if he pk'ed us like 1 time and then he leave ! And this thing didn't happen only once , it happen a lot of times , is there any rule for pk'ers?
Thanks , maybe there will be a solution.
I will be back and post some more about this problem.

Police as we know it was invented some time during 19th century. From there on generations of civilians have learn to respond to violence by opening their mouth and call:
1) infants: waaaa!
2) kids: Mommy!
3) youths: (umm let's skip that one)

and here it comes:
adults: Help, POLICE!

violence has been around since beginning of the civilization but large part of PWI players have trained to think that they have rights for someone else (police, GM whatever) to deal their problems. Wake up- you don't!
This game here pushes you back to the middle-ages. Your weapon is your only justice and your friends/guild is your only police.

About setting up on posting for having better better rules is basically you try to write bible for this game. A universal set of rules everybody obey.

But if people don't have respect for it they won't obey it. And middle ages rule here too- rules are for those who read them. Sword is for those who don't.
That's it.

odb wrote: »

not another one of you morons who think that video games/movies are the cause of violence in this world. maybe if parents would actually discipline their own children and not expect schools/daycare/whoever to raise and teach their kids morals you wouldnt have these issues. anime/most games originate in japan and they are HEAVILY censored before coming to the US. guess what...japanese who view these uncensored versions have extremely lower crime rates. WHY?...because they discipline their own children and teach them morals.


in conclusion...games are not the cause of violence. its the poor parenting in this world and the lack of discipline which causing kids to grow up to do most of these things.

I applaud this post. Thank you for being intelligent.

The Jack Thompsons of the world frustrate me to no end.