GMs in Enrage Guild??! Say it ain't so.
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b:laugh
Love to hear Enrage members defenses. Shows the intellect level we are dealing with.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Agravain - Heavens Tear wrote: »b:laugh
Love to hear Enrage members defenses. Shows the intellect level we are dealing with.
I've only seen me and defected. Neither of us defended anything. I just said people like you deserve it.
Edit: Yea, I have also noticed that you are not very smart.
Edit Edit: If there's GMs in my guild, I'd like to know. I would ask my leaders to kick them out, because I don't want stupid favoritism like Evolution has.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ಥ_ಥ MOAR.
SkyKoC - How long is yours?0 -
Edit: for nice-ness
Offtopic: Nice sig Aesthor b:pleased0 -
i heard Element is that GM b:chuckleAesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »Edit Edit: If there's GMs in my guild, I'd like to know. I would ask my leaders to kick them out0 -
Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »Nobody cares about "jerk" its the swearing I was talking about. Also nobody said they were complaining about it, I just used that as an example of REAL harrasment.
If you had said this in the first place we would be in agreement. You implied that any response/pm/wc was harassment. You didn't say anything about swearing.Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »(As opposed to KSing which isnt against the rules, and isn't KSing if you do majoirty of the damage, and isnt harrasment if you have a quest for it)
Not sure what your definition of KSing is then. I think KSing is hitting second knowing that your harder hit will steal credit. KSing isn't against the rules and rightfully so. Its designed the way it is intentionally. I still think KSers are jerks though and I got no sympathy for them when they get yelled at. I do have a problem with false hacker reports as that is stooping to a lower level than the KSer.Obsessed - Heavens Tear wrote: »Once again, I'm not in Enrage. Also I get about 10 WCs a day about my "being an azz at Oracle mobs" already, lol what's one more.
So you're an azz. You know it. Be proud of it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Wow.....from this thread and all the responses, i can't imagine how my gameplay would be if i had to wait for some **** to "SWITCH ON" PK mode, to teach him a lesson.
PHEW. I admire you guys PATIENCE.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
A GOAT always THINKS it's a lion......untill it meets a REAL LION!!!!!0 -
Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »If the GM's themselves did it yes. But your unable to see that they are REQUIRED to keep their personal play, and work separate. They have to draw a line. if the see ToS Violations etc and don't report it like anyone else, then yes, I can see the argument you make. But you would need to PROVE they saw it and failed to report it. HEARING/READING it in wc doesn't prove it. they have to see it.
Anyway all that aside. The argument isn't even valid BECAUSE it's just a rumor and as such should be held in high disbelief. GM's are required by their contracts and company rules to NEVER reveal their alt characters as being a GM's alt. Doing so gets the account banned and most likely the GM either fired, or disciplined at the least.
I would wager strongly someone from the faction started the rumor just to help them get away with more BS game play (people would be less likely to report someone in a faction that is rumored to have GM's in it for fear of negative effects on their own accounts as repercussion). I doubt there are any GM's in the faction at all.
~SAesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »You people are pathetic. Enrage has existed for a month now and we've been doing the stuff we usually do. Only hate was from people who hated RoC and can't get it past their heads that Enrage is not RoC. Now for ONE event where like 10 people come and KS you, you suddenly decide to reveal yourselves as crybabies and spam pointless world chat hate against 185 other people who are laughing at your idiocy from inside TT instances and dailies, and who've done nothing to you except be in the same guild as the person who stole your candy. That is sad.
And for you people who complain in the first place, it's because you are crybabies that other people want to pick on your more. Griefing is done to get a response out of you. By crying and complaining and otherwise making a fool of yourself you're only achieving your tormentor's purpose.
Lastly, you deserve it. Most of you. There is a few of you with sense whom I feel sorry for that you have to get caught up in stuff like this. However, if you cussed at your so called KSers, if you world chatted **** like "Enrage has no respect for anyone" or Enrage blah blah blah, if you cry because you can't do enough damage so you have to slander instead, then YOU DESERVE EVERY LAST BIT OF YOUR FRUSTRATION AND I HOPE YOU GET KSED FOREVER.
All we do in faction chat is "lol, LMAO, rofl!, and ahahahaah!" at most of what's going on. We let eachother know what's going on and have a lot of fun in the process. If a GM was part of us, they'd see what we were doing and be able to relay that. It is part of their responsibility as a GM to make sure people are being legit. I can assure you, there is no funny business going on. We don't violate and TOS. The handful of us that do "ks" these oracles bosses make it a point to be within the TOS at all times.
As more and more WCs go up, more of us want to see what all the fuss is about and have fun with you whiners by doing their Oracles in front of your line. You bring it upon yourself.
I personally think the GMs are tired of all the back and forth and are washing their hands of you whiners. I guess attempting to call out the GMs and get a response about them being in Enrage or not on their personal account is par for this course. All rumors.Devlinne - Lost City wrote: »Wow.....from this thread and all the responses, i can't imagine how my gameplay would be if i had to wait for some **** to "SWITCH ON" PK mode, to teach him a lesson.
PHEW. I admire you guys PATIENCE.
95% of the "kill stealers" in question, including myself, ARE in PK mode. Nothing like being the only one getting kills in front of 10 very angry people who have the option to kill me anytime they want. b:chuckle[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Changed my mind. Permanently Retired - Only here to troll.0 -
WTF?????!!!!! You mean they CAN pk u if they wanted to, but they just DON'T?
Jesus....Nvm i stop here.Must....resist...urge...to ...express....how....carebeaar...that iss....ARRRGRGHHH.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
A GOAT always THINKS it's a lion......untill it meets a REAL LION!!!!!0 -
Devlinne - Lost City wrote: »Must....resist...urge...to ...express....how....carebeaar...that iss....ARRRGRGHHH.
Not really. As you can see, some of them just prefer forum PvP.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Don't worry too much about Enrage.
Here's a little History lesson : Most members of Enrage comes from Elysium, TheEmpire or RoC.
Elysium : failed, most members left for TheEmpire, Radiance and RoC and the time
TheEmpire : failed, don't exist anymore
RoC : failed, don't exist anymore
History have the habit of repeating itself. Enrage will fail too sooner or later.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thanks Brit for the sig b:laugh0 -
Blancheneige - Heavens Tear wrote: »Don't worry too much about Enrage.
Here's a little History lesson : Most members of Enrage comes from Elysium, TheEmpire or RoC.
Elysium : failed, most members left for TheEmpire, Radiance and RoC and the time
TheEmpire : failed, don't exist anymore
RoC : failed, don't exist anymore
History have the habit of repeating itself. Enrage will fail too sooner or later.
What is your definition of fail ?
Each and every thing ever made in this world ends one day.
What makes you think RoC failed ?
They came , they owned , they left . RoC had the most fun possible in this game. Look at RoC's history it goes much much beyond this game. Hong got bored of this game in November so he stopped trying. Even without a active leader RoC did much good.
If you definition of fun is killing a npc over and over a billion times then it explains everything about you. Radiance too will fail one day , as all things do.
Enrage is the only hope of this server for any fun.0 -
this talk about GMs having alts in enrage is mostly concerning the player "penisland".
rest assured its no GM, its isleofpen's alt or a "name changed" character. i dont know how to get your character's named changed, but a few players have gotten theirs changed sometime back, and its not impossible to do so.
if these rumours are about any other characters in enraged, then its just like that rumour i heard from that guy who said there are GM alts in radiance,evolution,triad,his house,elysium,ultra and every land holding guild there ever was and will be.
its all just BS man. GMs like to make their own guilds and PK each other when the servers go down for maintance, why on earth would they resort to join a weakling guild. GMs pawn your accounts just by hiting one button, which guild on any server got such power?0 -
Agravain - Heavens Tear wrote: »No matter how many times it is said it just wont sink in will it. If a GM has an alt in a guild that openly acts/defends dirty game play (against tos or not) it smacks of croneism. GMs have the power to affect discipline. I really can't understand the opposition to this. Its simple. GMs participating in unsportsmanlike gameplay = bad.
NO
I used to play under the nick "echotracer" on MTGO where I was in the clan Only Hell Will Fill Your Void, a group with some of the most notorious players on the game servers. WoTC actually had (probably still does) a policy in place to strip any Adept (GM) of their position if they were found to be in our clan and didn't leave it. One of the members of the clan was an Adept when they first joined, but they were soon forced to make a choice: stay an Adept and leave the clan, or stay in the clan and no longer be an Adept. That isn't an exception, either. There have been Adepts that wanted to join the clan with their normal account, but cannot because of this.
Adepts in that game, however, are mostly on a volunteer basis with the exception of the higher up ones that work at WoTC.
When you start dictating to people who either work for you for free or are paid what they can do and whom they can hang out with on their off-time, you overstep your bounds.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear wrote: »WoTC actually had (probably still does) a policy in place to strip any Adept (GM) of their position if they were found to be in our clan and didn't leave it.
Which is fairly silly. If a guild is violating so many rules that you feel the need to forbid your GMs being a member there, the solution needs to be starting to use ban-sticks on that guild's members. And as long as they don't violate rules, you can't discriminate against that guild either.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
all the whining here is about GMs discriminating in favour of Enrage..which is the funniest bullsh** I've heard this year. With the crew of PWI showing off more of a paranoia about people not making use of glitches to make their lives easier, than about real world traders and rogue servers advertising themselves and potentially stealing clients and thus profits.
Paranoia for rules over self-preservation and unfair support don't really go together.0 -
Funny how the GMs were spamming that luring bosses is a bannable offense all weekend, at the same time WC was filled with people complaining that Enrage folks, particularly someone with the same name as you but all lowercaseDefected - Heavens Tear wrote: »I can assure you, there is no funny business going on. We don't violate and TOS. The handful of us that do "ks" these oracles bosses make it a point to be within the TOS at all times.
, were luring bosses to the oracle spawn sites.If you definition of fun is killing a npc over and over a billion times then it explains everything about you. Radiance too will fail one day , as all things do.
Enrage is the only hope of this server for any fun.
If that fun comes at the expense of other people's fun, then you're having a net negative effect on the amount of fun people are having in the game. i.e the game would be better off without you.
That said, it is not Enrage's responsibility to disprove the accusation that they have a GM in their guild. The burden of proof falls upon the one making the accusation to provide evidence to substantiate his claim.0 -
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Enrage is the only hope of this server for any fun.
QFT , if enrage wasnt on the server making all the rocus youd all be ****ting your self being bored as **** or maybe you all enjoy being stupid care bears being in alliance with a bigger guild and having no chance in hell of advancing across the map.
less QQ more PEW PEW0 -
Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »Funny how the GMs were spamming that luring bosses is a bannable offense all weekend, at the same time WC was filled with people complaining that Enrage folks, particularly someone with the same name as you but all lowercase, were luring bosses to the oracle spawn sites.
luring to safe zone is against the rules luring to any point that isnt inside a safe zone is not against the rules. otherwise they would be getting complaints all the time when someone is legitimately trying to run away from a boss and runs it by other people and they die.0 -
Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »You people are pathetic. Enrage has existed for a month now and we've been doing the stuff we usually do. Only hate was from people who hated RoC and can't get it past their heads that Enrage is not RoC. Now for ONE event where like 10 people come and KS you, you suddenly decide to reveal yourselves as crybabies and spam pointless world chat hate against 185 other people who are laughing at your idiocy from inside TT instances and dailies, and who've done nothing to you except be in the same guild as the person who stole your candy. That is sad.
And for you people who complain in the first place, it's because you are crybabies that other people want to pick on your more. Griefing is done to get a response out of you. By crying and complaining and otherwise making a fool of yourself you're only achieving your tormentor's purpose.
Lastly, you deserve it. Most of you. There is a few of you with sense whom I feel sorry for that you have to get caught up in stuff like this. However, if you cussed at your so called KSers, if you world chatted **** like "Enrage has no respect for anyone" or Enrage blah blah blah, if you cry because you can't do enough damage so you have to slander instead, then YOU DESERVE EVERY LAST BIT OF YOUR FRUSTRATION AND I HOPE YOU GET KSED FOREVER.
I tend to stay out of matters of the whole drama bullsh*t I've seen in other games. Killstealing as many as pointed out is allowed by the ToS intil, they add a "claim" system. So, everyone will have to deal with it. No real need to be angry ect.. It is a form of harassment however.
Anyway you look out it, Enrage wants to get some sort of emotion from players which is why 'some' of them do this. Why drop down to their level and give them what they want?
As far as GMs being in Enrage, what they do on their own time is completely up to them. As long as they act the way they should when they have the GM tag or not abusing their power then.... nothing should be said.
If Enrage does lure boss to towns just to be asshats then so? Submit a ticket and let the support team do their job and let it go.
@Ctsls, not all of us think that one guild will effect if... the game is fun or not. Also, around the big allance... funny stuff. It would never happen due to the fact even if people openly hate Enrage, they hate other guilds just as much maybe not so personally but just because they're a step they must cross in order to proceed.0 -
Devlinne - Lost City wrote: »WTF?????!!!!! You mean they CAN pk u if they wanted to, but they just DON'T?
Jesus....Nvm i stop here.Must....resist...urge...to ...express....how....carebeaar...that iss....ARRRGRGHHH.
Who the bleep is talking about pking? I think you got an arrow in your ears or something. This entire thread has NOT even mentioned PKing except the first post where I tried to make it clear this wasn't some whinny complain about pkers... that pking enhanced game play and was not foul play.
Perhaps you are confusing KSing with PKing. KSing is just one of the activities that Enrage is notorious for, and certainly not the worst. In fact KSing is NOT against the rules and I would defend their right to do so. I would equally defend the right of others to call them jerks for it too. This thread is a concern that GMs may be participating in their guild.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
CrazyKuniva - Heavens Tear wrote: »As far as GMs being in Enrage, what they do on their own time is completely up to them. As long as they act the way they should when they have the GM tag or not abusing their power then.... nothing should be said.
If it's true that a GM is in a guild like that then we should all be concerned...lmao. Brings into question his own character...why would he want to be in a guild like that? With a bunch of 14 year olds who like to rage people.0 -
CrazyKuniva - Heavens Tear wrote: »As far as GMs being in Enrage, what they do on their own time is completely up to them. As long as they act the way they should when they have the GM tag or not abusing their power then.... nothing should be said.
Well said. As long as they do not participate in foul game play, report any violations, and do not shield their guildies from disciplinary action they should be free to play wherever and however they wish. The only accusation toward them then is that they too are azzhats. I for one don't want to play a game where the management is azzhats.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Literature - Harshlands wrote: »If it's true that a GM is in a guild like that then we should all be concerned...lmao. Brings into question his own character...why would he want to be in a guild like that? With a bunch of 14 year olds who like to rage people.
Maybe so, but it is still HIS/HER choice on what they do with their free time. It's almost like me telling you what to do. You most likely won't do it and they have just as much free will as you. If a gm wants to be a **** on a alt character yet, do his/her job while on the GM character it's 100% up to the user.
*Edit*Agravain - Heavens Tear wrote: »Well said. As long as they do not participate in foul game play, report any violations, and do not shield their guildies from disciplinary action they should be free to play wherever and however they wish. The only accusation toward them then is that they too are azzhats. I for one don't want to play a game where the management is azzhats.
Question still remains though. How would you know if, a player was a true GM... It could just be a rumor someone cooked up to get some attention maybe?0 -
GM's don't join people's guilds. It IS possible a GM is in one, but not on a GM char, but a private char. That means that player is only a player, and won't act as a GM. However, they aren't allowed to tell you they're a GM, so it's highly unlikely this is true.
Also, closing this for flaming.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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