This is what o get for my loyality ?

xinderbirx · March 2009

I chose love and peace over hate and resentment

cybluerr · March 2009

You need a better faction

Cat - Heavens Tear · March 2009

yep, definately need a better faction. Good factions are hide to find. Just look around and keep trying. IMO dont worry about being a guild hopper if you get in a faction and it doesnt feel right, then you shouldnt stay.

Also you sound very helpful and that you care for others, maybe you should try making your own faction, you might make a great leader b:victory

Aesthor - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Yes, your guild leader should put her member's interests over other people's. The reputation of the guild isn't going to shatter because of a couple of KSers; reputation is more affected by your guild's position in the in-game politics. Even so, I'd put my members' feelings over the guild reputation anyways, since it is the members who make the guild what it is.

Hisui - Heavens Tear · March 2009

You should listen to us Enrage when it comes to good reputation. b:victory

Ladyselene - Heavens Tear · March 2009

i remember you from world chat at the time it happened. its a disgrace how they treated you. good faction members should always be above reputation because eventually if the leader keeps doing it then that will be their reputation and thats not good. find yourself another faction, one that treats you well and think to yourself its their loss. i understand your anger and your reasons, but mostly from here not from your rant on wc. i think maybe you should have kept it off wc and posted this then in wc just advertised your thread so people would read it. would also have saved you spending even more cash on someone as nasty as them

Foxx_trott - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Just because they are a sitting leader in a guild, does not make them a leader as a person. It just means he put up the cash and created a guild (which anyone can do at lvl 20) and thats about it I'm afraid. To be perfectly honest I wouldn't lose a minutes sleep over it. There is other guilds to join, or not to join. Thats up to you. And friends many times you meet in these games, can be friends one minute and easily forget you the next. Unfortunately its the way things like this work in these games we play.

Cheer up, be confident in yourself you did nothing wrong, and move forward. You sound like you would be a good asset to whatever guild you find yourself in.
b:victory

Sibyl - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Unfortunately guild leaders aren't always the nicest people. If she hadn't have blacklisted you, I would suggest asking for your money back. That's what I did when I left my old guild (SentinelS)... of course there had been a leadership change halfway through my membership so I only got the money back I had donated during the new leader's reign of terror =P. But anyways, don't worry, there are tons of guilds, and it sounds like any guild would be lucky to have you. ^^

MentalEdge - Heavens Tear · March 2009

xinderbirx wrote: »

Hi i am a lvl 58 cleric. I joined LastHope faction three weeks ago. I was always ready to help my clan mates and was loyal. Each and everyday i would help anyone who needed help be it for quests or boss killing. I would revive any guild memeber who died anywhere on the map and never asked anything in return. Sometimes i would travel from one end of the map to another end to revive my clan mates. Recently our leader told that members from TianLong faction are gonna join our clan.As a loyal clan person i asked him how much money we needed for becoming lvl 3 faction and even donated him 300k for expansion funds. I further grinded and raised another 50k for the clan.

I had also given many gifts to my clan mates and we were all like good friends. 2 days ago i was killing flamethrowers near tusk town and when 10% of it's hp was left one dude came and killed it. I did not get the quest drop and i asked that guy why he attacked the mob that was almost dead. Then he and his friend started flaming me and attacked every mob that i tried to kill. Then they started challanging me to duels and after a while i accepted and defeated them both. I had told in my clan chat that some jerks were trying to steal my kills but were failing at it.

Now my clan leader, Elronia asks me the names of the guys and i tell him. 10 mins later when everything has settled down he comes there and asks me to apologise to those guys without asking the whole story. I said the fault was not mine so why should i apologise. He said he has a reputation to make in Perfect world.

I refused to apologise to those jerks and Elronia said that i disappoint him and deleted me from friends list and blacklisted me. I left the clan feeling insulted. All the people who i thought were my good friends in clan did nothing about it.I mean i did so much for the clan and even then ended up being treated as a piece of **** by the clan leader. Did the countless things i did for the clan count for nothing ? i normally apologise if there is a misunderstanding but here it was clearly not such a case. I posted on my clan forums about what happened and Elronia made a reply that made no sense , and removed me from the clan forums. Are todays leader's such people who expect their clan mates to behave as slaves ? Supporting jerks over your loyal clan mates for reputation ? I have completely lost my faith in the guild system after the way i got treated by Elronia , the LastHope faction leader.

Now you can find yourself a good faction.

Aerith - Dreamweaver · March 2009

Sad story T_T

But if you had that mob down to 10%, they didnt KS it...

You didnt get the quest drop just cuz it didnt drop, if you did 90% dmg to it theres no way you could get KSed

Defected - Heavens Tear · March 2009

People will never, EVER remember you for the good, only the bad.

Guildies should back each other up, not take up for other factions for the sake of looking good. That leader seems to forget that those 2 random whoever people did not/would not help out his guild as you have. He has made his reputation known, just like he wanted to.

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear · March 2009

A leader is another member of a faction,
They lead nothing atleast I don't all my faction happenings are done as a team, wether I talk to my director or I put a poll on forums for the biggest things.

I'm sorry for what happend to you, I know the feeling similar things have happend to me, 4 times 4 factions now I just made my own faction which I run with friends.

You seem like someone who would make a good leader figure!

Note: ANYone that frequently uses the blacklist should be stricken of a friendslist.

xinderbirx · March 2009

Thank you all for your kind words of support.

PXRage - Heavens Tear · March 2009

less QQ more pew pew.

Hisuna - Sanctuary · March 2009

Utterly ridiculous, as everyone else has basically said. What kind of reputation does a faction leader get for abandoning his/her members? It's different if a member is behaving like an idiot all the time, I would kick them in a heartbeat.

Aside from that, your members are your first priority, and that is even more true of small and familial factions.

Aesthor - Heavens Tear · March 2009

Aesthor - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yes, your guild leader should put her member's interests over other people's. The reputation of the guild isn't going to shatter because of a couple of KSers; reputation is more affected by your guild's position in the in-game politics. Even so, I'd put my members' feelings over the guild reputation anyways, since it is the members who make the guild what it is.

I find a lot of irony over what I said in this post...

I did post that before the oracle incident ._.

This is what o get for my loyality ?

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