Physical Evasion with mobs

Granrey - Sanctuary
Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
edited March 2009 in General Discussion
I read a post on another tread in which the poster said that regardless your evasion stats (dex). The mobs will miss you a fix number independent from your stats, as the mob misses are not linked to your evasion stats.

The evasion stats are only applicable to PVP cases only.

is this correct?
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  • kooshdin
    kooshdin Posts: 90 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    That sounds like bull to me b:victory
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    kooshdin wrote: »
    That sounds like bull to me b:victory

    I finally found the tread:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=212302

    See the third post on first page.
  • OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear
    OMGLAZERZ - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,327 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    I finally found the tread:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=212302

    See the third post on first page.

    It's actually not true, evasion does effect the amount of attacks you dodge.

    I have two venomancers, both level 46.

    One has 204 evasion, and against Frail Blobs she has 8% chance to evade (dodge) attacks.

    The other has 446 Evasion and against the same mobs she has 16% chance to evade attacks.


    Your evade % is based on a formula that takes the raw number on your character sheet, your level, the mobs level, the mobs accuracy, does some stuff, and spits out the evade%.
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  • Purple - Lost City
    Purple - Lost City Posts: 206 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    My BM can lion roar a group of level 1s, 86% chance to evade, and all they do is miss me.

    It's funny watching the new players try to get the mobs off me.
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  • thanduril
    thanduril Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    @OP:when you click on a mob, you see your accuracy% and your evasion% you have on that particular mob.
    those are your hit and evasion ratios which 99% of the times stand strong, except on the odd chance that the game is **** you over.

    accumulated evasion(dex points, item, herbs, skills, etc), DOES work on mobs And players.
    the values given at the mob title might not change unless you refresh them by hitting alt+c/character sheet button, but those values change when you get/lose the archer evasion buff or equip/remove a +evasion item, after you refresh the values.
    you can test this by doing a simple experiment with a help of an archer friend or get an ethereal belt or necklace if you got no archer friends.
    and pretty much this is the number of times the mob is going to miss a physical attack and only a physical attack on you. pure magic attacks(not all spell like abilities are pure magic attacks) will hit you all the time even if you have an evasion ratio of 100% on it(which is nearly impossible, or the target is a doodad-HQ crystal)

    during PvP there is no way to get a concrete evasion ratio for a particular player. over here only guess works shows your evasion against your opponent's physical attacks, since magic attacks are independent of the evasion ratio.

    that post you are referring to...is written by someone who doesnt know what he is talking about. he is either a lvl 1-ish player who is speculating a lot of BS otherwise he is some lvl 90 noob from lost city server.
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    thanduril wrote: »

    that post you are referring to...is written by someone who doesnt know what he is talking about. he is either a lvl 1-ish player who is speculating a lot of BS otherwise he is some lvl 90 noob from lost city server.

    Honestly, that post almost gave me a headache. Since, I'm building a Bm with higher dex than usual.

    Thx everybody for the clarification.
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    wut he said is right, when u click on mob the evasion percentage is ur own. mine's like 67% against lvl 5 mobs right now and i just noticed this.

    however i see that u're in ur lvl 50's and u should know that evasion sucks against mobs at this stage and will continue to suck as more mobs do magic and dots. after the shrunchkin zerkers and sharpshooters, all mobs around the mid 50's that i know of r dispersed amongst magic aggroing mobs if not magic mobs themselves.

    if this is about protection from mobs, i'd just get some elemental resis and be done w/ it. do ur higher than usual dex bm for the accuracy and crits, but dont expect evasion to do much against mobs. any evasion shard socketed is like nothing socketed, is my experience
  • Granrey - Sanctuary
    Granrey - Sanctuary Posts: 2,050 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    mbrunestud wrote: »
    wut he said is right, when u click on mob the evasion percentage is ur own. mine's like 67% against lvl 5 mobs right now and i just noticed this.

    however i see that u're in ur lvl 50's and u should know that evasion sucks against mobs at this stage and will continue to suck as more mobs do magic and dots. after the shrunchkin zerkers and sharpshooters, all mobs around the mid 50's that i know of r dispersed amongst magic aggroing mobs if not magic mobs themselves.

    if this is about protection from mobs, i'd just get some elemental resis and be done w/ it. do ur higher than usual dex bm for the accuracy and crits, but dont expect evasion to do much against mobs. any evasion shard socketed is like nothing socketed, is my experience


    I add lots on point in dex for the reasons you mentioned and for other things on my playing style. However, I wanted to know what are the additional benefits of doing this (among them evasion).

    I do notice melee mobs miss me more but since I don't record the data (and I'm not willing to record it in the future either). I had to ask the question.

    Yes, I learned that too yesterday on another tread that mag attacks are always accurate anyways.