Class that owns alot in TW

I don't know how many times I have to say this, everyone has a job in TW, you need every class.


Even if you don't see wrs getting kills, they're running around, stunning, and dropping dragons on things. That lets other people kill much easer and the aoe stuns break channeling to keep your people alive.

Archers get kills. Thats what they do.

Barbs pull catas. You need catas to win a tw.

Wizards kill catas.

Clerics keep everyone alive, if they're killing people they're not doing their job.

Foxes are debuffing and killing when they can.



TW is not just about killing. A wr, barb, or cleric could have a great tw and not kill a single person.

Shano - Lost City wrote: »

you forgot to mention BM

BM STUN STUN STUN and STUN

Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

Even if you don't see wrs getting kills, they're running around, stunning, and dropping dragons on things. That lets other people kill much easer and the aoe stuns break channeling to keep your people alive.

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Limit.

The most important characters in TW would be a warrior and a wearbeast, an Axe warrior to be more precise; they are the bread and butter for any TW. A guild w/o them would loose even if they had 80 100+ chars up against a bunch of 8X lowbies.

Stun is the best offense and defense and nothing pulls a cart better than a real Tank. Tw is all about defending a base or destroying a base. kills don't matter. Only catapults can destroy a crystal and only stuns can stop a cata puller.

Mage and Archer - DDs and are supposed to be the only killers in TW.
Cleric - heal, buff, protect the party.
Veno - debuff, amplify and send the phoenix to kill robes.
Warrior - stun, AoE, stun, AoE...
Barb - Turtle, run, stay alive, pull the cart to the crystal to destroy it.

that pretty much says the same thing everyone has posted above me. b:cute

Mysticlifex - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yah I love fighting but In a TW situation I would turn my cannons to gear 0 and start healing which Is what a cleric such as myself should do.

(except FAC they fight)

FAC = No TW for you.

Maybe a few will slip into noob TWs in the new server but when things start getting serious it's bye bye to all the fake mages with their crappy buffs.

tr0oll wrote: »

The most important characters in TW would be a warrior and a wearbeast, an Axe warrior to be more precise; they are the bread and butter for any TW. A guild w/o them would loose even if they had 80 100+ chars up against a bunch of 8X lowbies.

Stun is the best offense and defense and nothing pulls a cart better than a real Tank. Tw is all about defending a base or destroying a base. kills don't matter. Only catapults can destroy a crystal and only stuns can stop a cata puller.

Having a WR take the cata from a dead WB works wonders too, I remember against bloodlust I took the cata when God_Evil died and stayed alive without getting targeted for a good 5 Minute.

tr0oll wrote: »

Clerics are supposed to heal and night fight.
An FAC is like Heavy armor'ed mage or a warrior who does not use axes.

in other words Epic fails for TW.

*unamused smile at this statement*
Have you ever fought a high level attack cleric in TW? Have you ever seen one in TW? Because I have... and they're no joke. b:thanks

Arodnur - Lost City wrote: »

Have you ever fought a high level failure in TW? Have you ever seen a total **** who clearly rolled the wrong class and is doing-it-wrong in front of up to 160 people? Because I have.. and it's a joke. b:thanks

Yeah, couple times. It was probably you. b:thanks
Sorry, just kidding.
Anyway, I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that you're NOT ultracrepidating here, and that you've really have played against a high level FAC in territorial wars. That is given, since if this were false you'd be giving opinions on matters beyond your knowledge, and therefore, have zero credibility... ;-)
I've also played against clerics (even ones who mainly support) in territorial battle who were (omg) not healing people constantly. They can do some serious damage, and with plume shell + Ironheart spamming they are actually pretty hard to kill. I've seen clerics who get ganged by four to five physical damage dealers at a time and survive.
To say that clerics are only supposed to heal in TW is an inaniloquent proclamation, to me. Why do they have combat skills and debuffs that are, under normal circumstance, more geared towards PvP than PvE if their only role is to spam people with heals all the time?

Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

Because someone has to heal the cart pullers. They are the ones who should be getting focus fired by mages, so someone has to heal them to keep them alive. Your clerics should have people protecting them, not having to protect themselves. It is more important anyways to keep the catas alive in order to do some real damage in a tw.

The only good spot for a FAC in a TW is town buffing, but then only if they have their buffs leveled up.

Okay, I think I see where you guys are coming from now.
What I'm saying is that if the cats already have assigned healers (which normally aren't the attack clerics, if their guild understands their build and has support clerics to spare) and they have all the spammed Ironheart necessary to stay alive, then why shouldn't the FACs clerics do what they've been built for and have experience with, and add to the overall offensive power of the guild? Besides DDing the enemy forces, they can assist in the defense of the support clerics who are protecting the barbs. It would just be a stronger and more effective system overall, because you're maximizing your own guild attack strength while still keeping your cat-pullers and support clerics alive.

And I'd have to disagree with you on the buffing thing. You want your best and strongest cleric players outside fighting/healing, not in your fort doing what a lower level cleric with equally high-level buffs, but less attacking/healing power, could be doing.

copywheel wrote: »

Okay, I think I see where you guys are coming from now.
What I'm saying is that if the cats already have assigned healers (which normally aren't the attack clerics, if their guild understands their build and has support clerics to spare) and they have all the spammed Ironheart necessary to stay alive, then why shouldn't the FACs clerics do what they've been built for and have experience with, and add to the overall offensive power of the guild? Besides DDing the enemy forces, they can assist in the defense of the support clerics who are protecting the barbs. It would just be a stronger and more effective system overall, because you're maximizing your own guild attack strength while still keeping your cat-pullers and support clerics alive.

And I'd have to disagree with you on the buffing thing. You want your best and strongest cleric players outside fighting/healing, not in your fort doing what a lower level cleric with equally high-level buffs, but less attacking/healing power, could be doing.

There are better people to put in those positions of DD or protecting clerics than a FAC. If you don't have other people to fill those spots then yes, put a FAC there and let them do their thing. The town buffer thing was a joke...

xtrm9 wrote: »

FAC's build needs good gear to make up for his low vit.
A FAC who has good gear will surely do good in TW.

Don't give a **** to what noobs like pandora say. His guild failed and the ppl who followed his bs wiz guide failed as well. b:bye

Anyone will good gear will do well in TW, FAC or otherwise.

Also, why mention pandora? He hasn't posted here at all. Who are you to say RQ failed?