Leveling + Endgame Build

Flauros - Lost City
Flauros - Lost City Posts: 15 Arc User
edited May 2009 in Cleric
So I'm a cleric and I just hit level 30. My current skill apportionment has been
9 mag
1 str

every 2 levels. Is this a good way to go while leveling? Should I continue to do this?
I usually level with a partner, who is a barb.

When I get to endgame, like 60 ish +, will I need to put more points into vit or can I get away with gemming all my gear with hp shards? I noticed I'm a wee bit squishy while soloing :(

edit: I'm aiming to be a heal/support cleric.
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  • Mkto - Heavens Tear
    Mkto - Heavens Tear Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    In my opinion you are fine with the build you are doing but if you goal is to be a support/clreric i will recomend to add more attributes to your Vit, and lvl up your buffs and heals as soon as you can. But if your prefer to continue with that build is up to you, 9 mag 1 str, applies more often to full attack clerics and soloing, in case you want to be a full attack cleric i recomend you to READ a lot in the forums and find information about it, before posting more about that build, reason why is becase this has been talked earlier and over and over and over a lot, so it just depends in how you play and how you want to build your character.
  • Eliathel - Lost City
    Eliathel - Lost City Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Flauros... thats a pure magic build. Means a lot of mana regeneration, a lot of mana, a lot damage.
    Drawnbacks? At higher lvls, maybe when starting HH (twiligh temple) or if you dont pay much attention, not putting points into Vit will be a problem because you will die easily. Many bosses have AoE (area of effect) attacks and you can sometimes even get one shoot if dont have many HP Shard and equip. Besides HP buff from barb increases HP according to your base HP.
  • SATII - Lost City
    SATII - Lost City Posts: 202 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Since your on Lost City, your gonna need a minimum of 50 vit. But more closely to 60 or 70. Since your support, aim for 80 or 90. That is, unless of course you like to die in one shot to an archer's crit.
  • Dark_Arbnger - Lost City
    Dark_Arbnger - Lost City Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    seeing as your aiming to be support phys def shards and as for stats 6mg 1str 3vit per 2 level untill u have 60 vit then 8mg 1 str an 1 vit

    my build i have only 25 vit at lvl 70 and i will be restating to 3 vit at 80 since i can + my armors an use hp shards

    personally attack clerics are best since our greater mag attack means greater ironheart heal potential but that is just personal preference
  • Teru - Lost City
    Teru - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Hi! How I am building my full support cleric is basically this..

    vit = my level (I'm level 75, so I have 75 vit)
    str = for weps/arcane armor
    mag = all the rest

    For armor as you level higher, go for those that add mag, hp, and -channeling%.

    Also, just add hp shards in your armor. Phys def isn't worth it. Trust me. I've tried the phys def shard route. Isn't awesome. HP helps A TON more. In your HH60 weapon put a magic attack shard. It gives a nice boost to your attack.

    If you need to kill a melee physical mob, use the hit and run method, or use plume shell. I used the hit and run method earlier in leveling, and now (since my plume shell is level 10) I just use plume shell to keep myself very well protected.

    I do a lot of HH's and fb's, and this build has worked well for me. I wouldn't really suggest adding shards until 60s or 70s. I'm using average shards now.

    :D If you have any questions or just want to tell me I'm a moron, feel free to PM me in game.

    --Teru
    :D
  • Nezarifis - Sanctuary
    Nezarifis - Sanctuary Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    So I'm a cleric and I just hit level 30. My current skill apportionment has been
    9 mag
    1 str

    every 2 levels. Is this a good way to go while leveling? Should I continue to do this?
    I usually level with a partner, who is a barb.

    When I get to endgame, like 60 ish +, will I need to put more points into vit or can I get away with gemming all my gear with hp shards? I noticed I'm a wee bit squishy while soloing :(

    edit: I'm aiming to be a heal/support cleric.

    um... i think its better if u did 3 mag then 2 on any other skill or 4 on mag and the other spend on anything. but the way ur going i strongly agree that u stay away from pvp. um... u shud really get higher hp and dexterity cuz then u can survive longer and hav a chance at criticals. but im lvl 38 cleric i recommend u lvl ur mag more 2 cuz the mage weps u get at my lvl u req a high mag lvl. thats all i got 2 say
  • Nezarifis - Sanctuary
    Nezarifis - Sanctuary Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Hi! How I am building my full support cleric is basically this..

    vit = my level (I'm level 75, so I have 75 vit)
    str = for weps/arcane armor
    mag = all the rest

    For armor as you level higher, go for those that add mag, hp, and -channeling%.

    Also, just add hp shards in your armor. Phys def isn't worth it. Trust me. I've tried the phys def shard route. Isn't awesome. HP helps A TON more. In your HH60 weapon put a magic attack shard. It gives a nice boost to your attack.

    If you need to kill a melee physical mob, use the hit and run method, or use plume shell. I used the hit and run method earlier in leveling, and now (since my plume shell is level 10) I just use plume shell to keep myself very well protected.

    I do a lot of HH's and fb's, and this build has worked well for me. I wouldn't really suggest adding shards until 60s or 70s. I'm using average shards now.

    :D If you have any questions or just want to tell me I'm a moron, feel free to PM me in game.

    --Teru

    thats wat i do....kinda... only lvl str when the armor is req'd rite? idk about the rest tho lol i mean evry lvl i use 2 go up 4 mag lvls... im currently 100 mag plus the boost from a few items. the last point i use on either hp or dex 4 longer battles and crits. is that good?b:victory
  • Healster - Heavens Tear
    Healster - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Hmm, I have put 3 points to DEX and I am allready regretting it.. And so I should, shouldnt I?

    3 pts wasted that could of been put to MAG, VIT or STR..

    Im not going for light armors, but to mostly FAC..

    Duh.
  • XAsch - Sanctuary
    XAsch - Sanctuary Posts: 855 Arc User
    edited March 2009
    Lv60 Endgame? b:shocked
  • SylenThunder - Twilight Temple
    edited March 2009
    I wouldn't worry about the 3 points to dex.. I took mine up to 20 for the crit increase and then left it there.
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  • Teru - Lost City
    Teru - Lost City Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    thats wat i do....kinda... only lvl str when the armor is req'd rite? idk about the rest tho lol i mean evry lvl i use 2 go up 4 mag lvls... im currently 100 mag plus the boost from a few items. the last point i use on either hp or dex 4 longer battles and crits. is that good?b:victory

    I wouldn't put anything in dex, personally. Crit really isn't meant for robed classes. Some will argue with me on that, but I believe having a more steady magic attack is better than going up 1% crit for every 10 dex points you put.
    :D
  • Blytz - Sanctuary
    Blytz - Sanctuary Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Lv60 Endgame? b:shocked

    Must be playing vanilla WoW.

    On a more serious note, vit does come in handy, just don't put too much into it. I started with a 8 Mag 1 Str 1 Vit per 2 levels up to 50 and then switched to 9 Vit 1 Str per 2 levels first to make leveling not too slow at the lower levels and now to get my health up in preparation for the aoes in TT.

    Best course of action is to observe your character and see what you're lacking (low damage? getting hit too hard? etc.) and stat accordingly as you notice issues.
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Well for End-game gear... You should consider Mag stat to be your best bet.

    At max lvl.... or End-game. You should be level 105...

    Put 45 Stats in Str period. Because your lv 100 weapon (Nature Taker, pretty much the best rank Magical weapon requires only 50 Str)

    Have around 100ish Base Vit or something... Maybe less because you need more Mag so you can 1 shot more people and you probably already have enough Vit from +12 all your gear and socketing them with G12 HP gems. Or you can put some stats into Vit and put G12 Pdef gems in your armor.. but it's pretty much your choice of more hp or more pdef.

    Dump the rest on Mag, to be able to 1 hit ko people. You might even consider getting the legendary Warsoul weapons. But that requires an entire squad of 200 people to farm for you 24/7 for about 6 months. But it's worth it as it has +50 Attack level, increasing the amount of damage you do to other players by 50%, along with the highest Damaging sword in the entire game to rip a hole through the space continuum and cause massive ownage in the server.

    Basically use G12 shards on all your 4 socketed armor and 2 socketed weapon. +12 everything all end-game (Except Nature Taker because you will replace it with the Warsoul weapon later on.. so only +7 or +8 it because +12 is a waste of money). You should have around 7k or maybe 10k HP with all +12 armor socketed with +HP/+Pdef gems all G12. Your weapon... Nature Taker should also be socketed with 2 G12 Sapphire Gems and +7/8 to add even more power. When you get the Warsoul Magic weapon, then you can probably NPC your Nature Taker because you can't trade the rank equip and lose about 100 billion coins. Then 2 socket G12 Sapphire gem your Warsoul weapon and +12 it. So your Plume Shot will be able to 1 shot most lv 105 Barbarians with 10k hp and 5k pdef.

    Your stats should be around 10k hp unbuffed and 7k pdef unbuffed.

    You should max all skills because you have too much spirit and money from many years farming in this game.
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  • Blytz - Sanctuary
    Blytz - Sanctuary Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zephyrx, nice post to back up your sig b:chuckle, I like it. Only one thing though, there's actually some useful information about point distribution in your post, most trolls keep that to a minimum.

    Cheers b:laugh
  • ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary
    ADvEnTcUrSe - Sanctuary Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    seeing as your aiming to be support phys def shards and as for stats 6mg 1str 3vit per 2 level untill u have 60 vit then 8mg 1 str an 1 vit

    my build i have only 25 vit at lvl 70 and i will be restating to 3 vit at 80 since i can + my armors an use hp shards

    personally attack clerics are best since our greater mag attack means greater ironheart heal potential but that is just personal preference

    you mean full Int clerics b:victory
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    Zephyrx, nice post to back up your sig b:chuckle, I like it. Only one thing though, there's actually some useful information about point distribution in your post, most trolls keep that to a minimum.

    Cheers b:laugh

    Oh... but I'm also too lazy to change it b:laugh
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    So your Plume Shot will be able to 1 shot most lv 105 Barbarians with 10k hp and 5k pdef.
    Your stats should be around 10k hp unbuffed and 7k pdef unbuffed.
    Someone needs to do this, just to show us the rediculous extreme possibilities lol
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    xxxdsmer Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    um... i think its better if u did 3 mag then 2 on any other skill or 4 on mag and the other spend on anything. but the way ur going i strongly agree that u stay away from pvp. um... u shud really get higher hp and dexterity cuz then u can survive longer and hav a chance at criticals. but im lvl 38 cleric i recommend u lvl ur mag more 2 cuz the mage weps u get at my lvl u req a high mag lvl. thats all i got 2 say

    i never do this, but this post and the server the poster's info says is just plain and simple asking for it.

    1st: learn some damn english man!

    2nd: PvE server. 'nuff said.
    i'm pro all classes, and against none in particular..
    but the age old QQ about venos is just that. OLD.
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  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    w@t d@ mttr?
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    m@n u dnt kn0w w@t u missn b:chuckle
    i g2g n0w
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    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
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  • Hellana - Heavens Tear
    Hellana - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dont really ever see a cleric one shotting a barb that high
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited April 2009
    dont really ever see a cleric one shotting a barb that high

    Triple Spark + All buffs.....

    Fully debuffed lv 105 Barbarian with average equips.

    Weapon: Warsoul, Mysto Caster +12 with 2 of these babies
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12641

    Armor: Well I don't give a dam, the best amor with +Mag, **** refines.. plus.. all that **** that gives def. Max out your damage like hax...

    Rings: Two of these babies..
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20247

    Build: Full Mag... Full Mag... everything else blows for max damage.

    Watch the fireworks, bring some popcorn with you.. For people who haven't seen a 5 digit number, I suggest you bring a calculator.

    P.S. If that barb actually lived, feel free to borrow this weapon from your *friend* I'm your best friend
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  • Hellana - Heavens Tear
    Hellana - Heavens Tear Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    well i know when ive been beat b:laugh
  • Mandey - Dreamweaver
    Mandey - Dreamweaver Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Do people actually get those Warsoul weapons and rings?
    51 lvls in Calamity, **** whomever actually pressed the kick button on me, while I was at work no less, you coward.
  • Zephyrx - Lost City
    Zephyrx - Lost City Posts: 1,563 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Do people actually get those Warsoul weapons and rings?

    NO lol... unless they played this game for a long time.
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  • Janalla - Heavens Tear
    Janalla - Heavens Tear Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited May 2009
    Well im lvl 82 and i have 101 vit , 50 str , 5 dex and 325 mag and i very very rarely die in FBs and TTs and im in front with the tank helping tank/heal at the same time . I didnt go by a system , i just think of what i should do to beable to solo my own quests and be able to solo most of my own bosses but ofcourse not all bosses . I have 3360 hp ( over 4k hp with barb burr ) and i survive very well and have also added hp stones to my armor to help . I am very happy with my build . In order to be a good player with any class , just learn to solo your own quests with no help ( except fo most bosses and fbs and tts ) if not then u will never properly learn to play your character correctly and die alot and or get others killed in the process .