Fake Bidding?

Aeoden - Heavens Tear
Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
edited February 2009 in General Discussion
rofl why was my account banned under the charges of 'fake bidding'?

I was bidding against Evo and i get banned for no reason, thats AWESOME!

Sure lets take all the fun out of TW for small guilds, why dont we.
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  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    rofl, people must have assume that you are from a big faction using a newly created faction to stop people from attacking them
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    yeah i know, thats what fake bidding is.

    only problem here is - IM NOT *gasp*

    I just made a faction because i dont like Evo

    And i wanted to outbid them and do TW myself!

    and i get banned for that.
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I even ran out of money right before they banned me, wtf did banning accomplish?

    Small guilds arent allowed to TW? Is that a bannable offense??
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Now i want to be unbanned right now pl0x GMs

    I did nothin wrong, just trying to get a taste of TW like everyone else.
  • jemima
    jemima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I'm surprised this hasn't been locked yet, with a message telling you to use the ticketing system.

    Although I suppose given you're posting every minute it makes the thread look longer lasting than it actually is.


    I'm going to go out on a limb here though and suggesting that spamming their forums isn't going to help your cause. All it'll do is annoy people, and given that the point of posting about bans and stuff in forums is to try to rally popular support, I'd say you're not accomplishing anything here.
  • godlike2008
    godlike2008 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Triple post ftw!
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Im only posting here because its a great injustice that happened to me

    Apparently i get banned for simply bidding on territories. Wonderful system
  • KillaBee_ - Sanctuary
    KillaBee_ - Sanctuary Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    rofl why was my account banned under the charges of 'fake bidding'?

    I was bidding against Evo and i get banned for no reason, thats AWESOME!

    Sure lets take all the fun out of TW for small guilds, why dont we.

    Hmmm....

    Firstly, it's against your terms of service to discuss or represent banned players on the PWI forums. But lets pardon you on that.

    "Fake bidding" I would ASSUME that that is correlated to the rule that a faction may not use a sub-faction to bid on themselves to avoid having to fight another faction that may take their territory. If a small faction that is enormously weaker than another attacks the other, it is possible that another player reported it as misconduct.

    Also, "fake bidding" can be attributed to your flagrant disregard of game mechanics; trying to outbid a factions simply so they cannot do a TW is also misconduct and if you read your terms of service, you would be aware of all of the possible issues that arise when pulling a stunt like the one you have described.

    If you feel that your ban was unwarranted, you can submit a ticket and plead your case with the GM's. They are very responsive and courteous and if you were doing nothing wrong I'm sure they will resolve the issue for you with very little hassle -They did so for me with an issue I experienced with banning.

    Do not heckle the GM's though. They receive countless messages and prompts from several players and AT WORST a simple mistake has occurred.

    ON A DIFFERENT NOTE:

    It is my personal advice to you that you do not waste your money on a TW if you are a small faction that cannot get at least 60-80 players online for your TW who are AT LEAST lvl 55+

    Not only will it be extremely frustrating when you get destroyed, but it will taint the way your guild is viewed from there on out. Your guild will always be remembered as the guild that got destroyed in 6 mins.

    Do not discuss this on forums though. Its actually kind of sad...
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Yeah i wasnt only bidding so that Evo wouldnt have the territory. And im not a sub guild. I want to TW and i get banned.

    I sent tickets in already, but this is just unreasonable. Banned like that without any questions or warnings?

    I dont even know anything about TW, i just bid to try it out.

    Im lvl 62 blademaster, and trying new things in the game. And i get banned. WOOT
  • KillaBee_ - Sanctuary
    KillaBee_ - Sanctuary Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Go read the terms of service. You are and have violated at least 4 different things listed in them. Do not create alternate accounts just to spam the forums about your problem. Show some patience and class. You are acting like a child.

    I mean all that above in the most respectable way possible when dealing with such ignorance.
  • godlike2008
    godlike2008 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Go read the terms of service. You are and have violated at least 4 different things listed in them. Do not create alternate accounts just to spam the forums about your problem. Show some patience and class. You are acting like a child.

    I mean all that above in the most respectable way possible when dealing with such ignorance.

    Aeoden got owned b:chuckle b:cute
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Go read the terms of service. You are and have violated at least 4 different things listed in them. Do not create alternate accounts just to spam the forums about your problem. Show some patience and class. You are acting like a child.

    I mean all that above in the most respectable way possible when dealing with such ignorance.

    We're on the forums so im assuming you mean the rules of conduct.

    Well to correct you there i've only violated 1 rule, which is dicussing banned accounts on here.

    However given the situation i feel a bit justified and i need this issue cleared up RIGHT NOW.
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    what about the EIysium bidding?
    that in game font is fail.....
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    what about the EIysium bidding?
    that in game font is fail.....

    problem with my issue here is i wasnt fake bidding at all :P

    didnt use any fake names or nothing.
  • Defected - Heavens Tear
    Defected - Heavens Tear Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    In before lock.

    The Evolution leader didn't get banned for the giving of money for the purpose of outbidding, only for letting someone win.

    Maybe you don't spend as much as Evolution?

    Yeah, I said it.

    Ok, you can lock the thread now.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Changed my mind. Permanently Retired - Only here to troll.
  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I think the big factions are just afraid of the little ones bidding, thats why they accuse small factions fake bid. eheh..










    (sarcastic)

    I dunno what happened though must suck for you though.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Flying to continue my journey..
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    dont make this a flame war thread.

    keep this on topic

    and unban me!
  • Chowy - Lost City
    Chowy - Lost City Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Posting here won't do anything but give you the message the forum mods give: "Please send in a ticket"
  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    but then again you can't win can you? i'm assuming there is so random land that nobody bid on that you could test out. But you choose a hot place, where confrontation would be taking place. it's not hard to see you for not having an ulterior motive.

    and there you said it "Yeah i wasnt only bidding so that Evo wouldnt have the territory"

    that itself just **** your case over. you aren't suppose to do that. you can say you bid to win the territory but when you say something like that you are definitely getting ban. and i'm sorry to say i think it's correct. cause all you are doing is increasing the amount other faction need to spend to get the bid. as if, there isn't enough bidding war already for you to come it.

    next time, if you want to test. go attack some land nobody would ever attack.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    yeah well this will maybe tell them to take a look at my tickets sooner than later
  • KillaBee_ - Sanctuary
    KillaBee_ - Sanctuary Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    We're on the forums so im assuming you mean the rules of conduct.

    Well to correct you there i've only violated 1 rule, which is dicussing banned accounts on here.

    However given the situation i feel a bit justified and i need this issue cleared up RIGHT NOW.

    It is against the rules to spam the forums and, as you mentioned, discussed banned accounts on the forums. It is also against forum rules to create an alternate account to conduct business in PWI (believe me, I have several e-mails from PWI customer service explaining that). That is three violations, when added with your in-game violation, that adds to four.

    Whether or not your ban was justified, that is what submitting a ticket is for. You must WAIT for them to respond. The reasoning has already been explained to you, and the fact that you are continuing to violate your terms of service will guarantee that even if you are un-banned for your in-game act, you will be re-banned for all the subsequent violations on the forums.

    10 minutes of deductive reasoning and a simple exercise of your logical reasoning skills would have (hopefully) helped you arrive at the conclusion that the best thing to do would be to wait until you receive a response from customer service.

    OH BTW

    You cannot submit several tickets about the same issue. Dvorak explains that after you have waited for a while, you may submit a single ticket to follow-up your inquiry.

    Single.
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009

    and there you said it "Yeah i wasnt only bidding so that Evo wouldnt have the territory"

    yeah, thats what i said. wheres the problem in that?

    Yeah i wasnt only bidding so that Evo wouldnt have the territory

    i WASNT only bidding to take it from them

    i WAS bidding to take it and battle myself.

    what were you thinking i said?!

    THE WHOLE POINT OF BIDDING IS SO THAT THE OTHER PERSON DOESNT GET THE LAND

    DUH
  • Evga - Sanctuary
    Evga - Sanctuary Posts: 779 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    what i meant was that you could have bid of any of the 40 territory ish i think, but you choose that one in particular to stop another faction from getting it, when you can never win it, so you are wasting their time.

    i mean judging by your lvl i know there is no way you could have won. so doing something like that is just annoying everybody. do what other people in my server did. attack some land own by nerf knowing they nobody ever bid for it just to test what TW is like.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • KillaBee_ - Sanctuary
    KillaBee_ - Sanctuary Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    If that is the case than simply wait for your ticket to be processed and the issue resolved. You have effectively eliminated any possible good outcome for you from this event by violating more ToS in the forums than you were accused of violating in-game.

    Assuming you did absolutely nothing wrong in-game, you have still broken the forum rules, even if it is only one rule that you claim to have broken, you will still be banned for that as soon as a GM or MOD reads this, which ironically is what you desire.

    Your actions are completely devoid of logic.

    PS: nobody really cares about you and your one-man faction TBH, and you are not really giving them any cause to feel empathic. Most people who read this will just LOL @ you.

    ^_^ -KillaBee_
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    If that is the case than simply wait for your ticket to be processed and the issue resolved. You have effectively eliminated any possible good outcome for you from this event by violating more ToS in the forums than you were accused of violating in-game.

    Assuming you did absolutely nothing wrong in-game, you have still broken the forum rules, even if it is only one rule that you claim to have broken, you will still be banned for that as soon as a GM or MOD reads this, which ironically is what you desire.

    Your actions are completely devoid of logic.

    PS: nobody really cares about you and your one-man faction TBH, and you are not really giving them any cause to feel empathic. Most people who read this will just LOL @ you.

    ^_^ -KillaBee_

    in short you are basically flaming on this thread. please do not post here anymore TY
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    what i meant was that you could have bid of any of the 40 territory ish i think, but you choose that one in particular to stop another faction from getting it, when you can never win it, so you are wasting their time.

    i mean judging by your lvl i know there is no way you could have won. so doing something like that is just annoying everybody. do what other people in my server did. attack some land own by nerf knowing they nobody ever bid for it just to test what TW is like.

    i am allowed to choose which ever territory i want to bid on.

    bidding on a certain one isnt grounds for banning.
  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dont worry you got my support.

    Small Guilds need a chance too!!

    Oh well, if not.. just come to the New server once it opens. ^__^
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Flying to continue my journey..
  • KillaBee_ - Sanctuary
    KillaBee_ - Sanctuary Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    in short you are basically flaming on this thread. please do not post here anymore TY

    You are asking me not to flame you in your ToS violating thread? You have forfeited all of your rights by posting on here discussing a banned account. I have tried to persuade you to leave the forum and await contact from PWI customer server. I felt that you need very "encouraging" language to convince you to leave so I "flammed" you.
  • Aeoden - Heavens Tear
    Aeoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 45 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You are asking me not to flame you in your ToS violating thread? You have forfeited all of your rights by posting on here discussing a banned account. I have tried to persuade you to leave the forum and await contact from PWI customer server. I felt that you need very "encouraging" language to convince you to leave so I "flammed" you.

    Which means you just admitted to breaking the rules of conduct aswell.

    Should you be immediately banned?

    Keep my thread on topic. Dont flame.
  • Poison - Heavens Tear
    Poison - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,444 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    And for those not on Heaven's Tear, or weren't on when it happened... I'm guessing from the timing of his post his guilds name was "fyouEvo". I must say I'm quite surprised at how fast the ban happened as well.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]