Question About Archers

Ethas - Heavens Tear
Ethas - Heavens Tear Posts: 85 Arc User
edited February 2009 in General Discussion
Is it normal that an archer gets agro even with normal hit?.

even if you got Tanker on boss?
and a BM as tanker help?

I mean we had two MAGES with damage over 8k and the archer is doing 1k damage.
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  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Bear in mind that archers rarely have an unbroken series of normal shots. Most archers have maxed their crit so any series of shots will be interspersed with regular critical hits. I have a crit of 16% and it is not all that uncommon for me to crit 3 times in a row. Add a couple more crits a few shots later and the total damage builds up.

    Not sure how aggro is determined though.
  • Ermosa - Heavens Tear
    Ermosa - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    blademasters can't hold agro at all
    if bm tank, then archers can go away or stay, get agro, die and maybe kill whole party too XD
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I keep telling archers to stop hitting so hard but they never listen and the party gets wiped. lol
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  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I keep telling archers to stop hitting so hard but they never listen and the party gets wiped. lol

    We can't help it lol.
  • Ethas - Heavens Tear
    Ethas - Heavens Tear Posts: 85 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Yeah, hall party got killed because archer dont listen.
  • Novie - Sanctuary
    Novie - Sanctuary Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Its not that we don't listen we seriously can't help it lol. I usually just switch to a non TT wep that I'm carrying but sometimes I STILL aggro. If my bf (a BM) is tanking something and I go along I usually stop hitting for small periods at a time >.<
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  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You really shouldn't underestimate an archers crits...and they are difficult to predict.

    I couldn't consistently beat barbs at higher levels than myself in duels without those crits. Crits are to an archer what HP are to a barb.

    So before you say an archer isn't listening....perhaps you should listen?
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Aldryami - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You really shouldn't underestimate an archers crits...and they are difficult to predict.

    I couldn't consistently beat barbs at higher levels than myself in duels without those crits. Crits are to an archer what HP are to a barb.

    So before you say an archer isn't listening....perhaps you should listen?

    This has nothing to do with pvp. Its about holding agro. Archers need to stop hitting so hard so barbs can do their job. I give my archer a random lower level NPC weapon to avoid stealing agro.
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  • Aldryami - Sanctuary
    Aldryami - Sanctuary Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    umm. I feel free to discuss "around" the issue in an internet forum.

    Yes archers can try downgrading their weapons.

    But My response to the thread creator was to try to show how sensitive the damage issue is with archers. Crits are difficult to predict. And crits are pretty much what make an archer. Even if you downgrade weapon...your dmg + crit may still draw aggro.
  • mbrunestud
    mbrunestud Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    mages will never cast as fast as an archer attacks. if crits happen consecutively and 2k's start popping up bad stuff starts happening.
    i usually delay my attacks until the mob is down 10% unless my squad has someone like 30 lvls ahead.

    there is an archer guide with a section about aggroing here:

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=185611
  • Andiano - Lost City
    Andiano - Lost City Posts: 70 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Mages have very slow channeling that why... Archers atk fast and strong
    me:
    1.agroed Rankar on fb51 run [no death]
    2.agroed Drake on fb59 run [no death]
    3.agroed Fataliqua on TT2-1 run [death >>]
    4.General Wurlord deals 7032 damage [thats cuz tank got pwned >.<]

    but archers can guard theirselves:
    1.shell skill - leveled can be good if u protect from long channel magic boss/mob
    2.Wings of grace - most useful pro skill: immune to damage when casting, dmg received weaker by 33%, speed increased

    with 2nd skill i survived wurlord's atk (2,8k dmg barb buff ftw >>)

    Apocalypse page skill:
    3.Bleesing of condor - i dont have it yet but: increases evasion by 1000% for 6 seconds <-- on melle mobs/bosses
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