Mapping Action Keys

Well I'm not going to stop playing because of this, but the keyboard interface in PWI really sucks. You complain about the lack of key binding configuration, but don't forget to mention the lack of things that you can even control by keyboard in the first place. And furthermore, the ESCAPE key sporatically doesn't work (i.e., you have a mob focused, but pressing ESC won't drop the focus, no matter how many times you press it).

Holy **** I just started playing and yeah uninstalling now...

It's just unbelievable how such a basic function isnt available, the developers of this game can't be very bright individuals, down right stupid is what it is.

ZakkusuFae - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If u guys havent noticed, u can use 1-6 buttons for skills...

Only idiot uses F1-F8 buttons for skills. Even Guild Wars uses 1-8 buttons for skill activation so stop whining like an idiot.

Only idiot don't use Q/E/R/T/F/G/V/B and shift+those and similar if they're able to. Sadly we're not able to, because the developers are genius.

And you are wrong, Guild Wars does not have their bindings hard coded, press F11 and go to the Controls tab and you are able to map any function (including ability bar keys) to any key, so in my case Guild Wars did not use 1-8 buttons for skill activation.

Raivon - Lost City wrote: »

for those who really want to complain about key mapping... BUY A COMMAND PAD!!... they're 25-30 bucks for a cheap one and make everything right there at your fingertips... no reaching... not hard to unplug and go buy one... probably quicker than posting complaints about a game that most people wouldnt have a shot at designing or developing nething close to... get a job...

So a command pad will let me bind all the bars in-game to my keyboard? Somehow I really doubt it.

I don't see why I should get a command pad when I have the exact same thing right here called a keyboard, no real difference except the keyboard has more keys that I'm already used to.

And I'm pretty sure if you've got the proper education that you could get a job with the company behind this game, atleast in normal circumstances (as in when there's not a recession).


And I'm also pretty sure that the developers of this game appriciates feedback, and the closer to a complain it is the more likely they are to realize that it's actually something they should pay attention to (as oppose to feedback in the lines of "I'd like to ride a magical pink pony that has machine guns instead of legs").

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

Yes I'm sure that they APPRECIATE feedback.. but I'm sure that they dont appreciate being accused of being ignorant or inefficient in designing this game...

If they make a mistake as big as this while designing a mmorpg, they must be ignorant to not EXPECT people to call them ignorant or inefficient at game design.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

and yes a command pad does make the game functions more efficient.... if you've looked into them... mine is molded like a mouse(for comfort of your hand) with a d-pad mounted on the side for movement... all the function keys mounted directly in front of the pad.. with all the number keys mounted in front of them... I never have to move my hand to reach any of my skills....

in terms of button/key usage, the difference between my mouse and my keyboard is practically non-existant- atleast for me the only thing that really requires my mouse to have the shape it does is for the movement part, I'm practically just as comfortable and key/button efficient on my keyboard.

In the mmorpg I play activly atm I have around 40 key bindings that I activly use, and I never have to move my hand or wrist or let go of my WASD keys to reach any of them

So with those two points made, I still don't see why I should buy a d-pad instead of doing something that would be more productive like increasing computer performance

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

(chatting is the only time I need a keyboard) and I'm not saying that the game doesnt have flaws or isnt in need of POSITIVE feedback but the developers dont deserve to be disrespected or put down when there is easy solutions... and/or they work vigorously to fix any game flaws otherwise...

If a game designer would be less enthusiastic over integrating custom key bindings to a game such as this (or any mmorpg at all) by being called out being daft for not having this feature as an obvious basic necessity, he simply doesnt belong in this buisness and the mmorpg scene would probably be better off in the long run if other games with proper designers would get more of the mmorpg player share because of it.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

hence why they stated that sometimes the problem is between the keyboard and the chair....

I'm pretty sure in this case, the problem is indeed between the keyboard and the chair, but only over at the game designer's workplace.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

and once again... yes a command pad is an easy fix for key mapping issues... and it makes this game and others (including WoW) a better experience... personally everyone I know that has participated in games like this uses one... just for the ease of the design... I'm just trying to let you know that they really help... and are well worth the expense (isnt much at all)... and unless you've personally designed something better than PW... dont be so quick to call someone stupid

It might be an easy fix but it's a really stupid and unnecessary one, there are TONS of things that make a lot of games a better experience, if I were to buy into every single one of them I would be broke- and I would rather that I'm able to buy the gameplay enhacements by how I am as a person rather than how broken the game is... assuming you as a person don't find a pad much better than a keyboard, buying one to solve this problem is equal to buying more RAM then you would ever need just to play a game with a huge memory leak that the developers refuse to take care of.

The only reason I'm quick to call someone stupid is because I'm a quick thinker, I would never call someone stupid without having a debate with myself first to cover every single aspect of being able to justify my claims.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

I do understand that the key-binding does help

No, it's not about if it helps or not, it's simply a necessity to play the game beyond a certain level of gameplay.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

and most pads have around 50 keys that you can program for anything you choose... with the d-pad I negate the need for the wasd movement and its merely which way I move I thumb, I go. and no you shouldnt have to go buy one to be a fix for a game flaw... but for those who have issues with key-mapping it would help... but if you can key-bind and program those to the pad (the perk of the pad that I'm fond of)... its really convenient...

most keyboards have well over 50 keys that you can program for anything you choose aswell, there is loads of software that would allow me to alter the setup of my keyboard or assign third party macros for my keyboard to allow certain keys to press other keys.

You don't even have to pay anything to download these programs and they would "solve" this problem just as well, however again this is not the topic of discussion, I havent made any point about any of these products at all, the product I'm discussing at the moment is this game, and it is fundamentally broken through such a ridiculous mistake and that completely justifies any insults I throw at the designers and any whine I choose to express.

I'm more than happy to discuss products like these, but maybe it would be more suitable in a thread suggesting gameplay enhancing products for the players.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

my thumb has control over my movement which leaves my fingers free at all times for my commands and key-binds... these pads were designed specifically for games like WoW, Battlefield, ect... its one of those things I guess that are really left up to personal preference... but I would still suggest to anyone who has a problem with key-mappin/key-binding...

What you should be suggesting is for people to stop finding alternative solutions and start relying on the designers to do their job, if it's one thing that might make them less interrested in pursuiting this features is if people simply give in and start becoming comfortable in taking **** and learning to enjoy its smell.

Phaite - Lost City wrote: »

well until the key-map flaw is fixed... an alternate solution is one door that can be taken for now... as for your example... thats an alternate solution for use of the keyboard... which is fine in itself... all on personal preference... so for those of you not in discussion who have this issue I suppose here's a couple doors you could go... either buy a command pad or get the software to alter your keyboard (which is a good-idea as well) until they mend the key-mapping tragedy (if they choose to do so)...

If there's anything I've learned from playing mmorpgs activly for a very long period, it's that developers don't "choose" what they fix, the players do.

The only way you get anything fixed is completely dependant on how much whine and how many complaints there are about any specific problem or feature.

The doors they have is to either use third party work-arounds, or work on getting this broken part of the game fixed themselves by simply demanding it.

menyu wrote: »

Hi new user here. Was planning to play the game with a RL friend but I noticed that you cannot remap keys and found it very inconvenient. My friend is a left hand gamer and thus cannot play the game with WASD.

It's most certainly possible to play left-handed. I've spent the last 2 months playing with only my left hand (which is my non-dominant hand) on an almost daily basis. My right hand is out of commission due to a broken shoulder.