Corn says: Sage/Demon: no longer a matter of atk vs.def anymore...
CornHilario - Heavens Tear
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ok i went to this one website (by the way it is http://ecatomb.net, thanks) and i checked out a barb's skills compared and contrasted to demon and sage. I checked it out because i wanted to know if i would be demon or sage at 89 (i want to be demon because my friend zoe said the spark eruption for demon is RED and the sound it makes is SCREAMING!!!). anyway. i realized that overall...well i'll show you. take a good look at the truth!!! b:angry BY THE WAY: SAGE AND DEMON SKILL BONUSES ARE THE SAME NO MATTER WHAT THE LEVEL OF THAT SKILL!(don't forget to see below the chart after you are done..i'm not finished talking yet!)
BYW: sincere apologies for seizure-conjuring colours!
SKILL NAME [SAGE=THIS COLOR] COLOR="Purple"]DEMON=THIS COLOR[/COLOR
STOMP OF THE BEAST KING
-Sage version gives a successful hit a 25% chance to recover 20 Chi.
-Demon version extends cooldown by 3 seconds, but never misses.
GARROTE
-Sage version increases bleed damage by 15%.
-Demon version reduces bleeding time to 12 seconds(more bleed damage per second)
MIGHTY SWING
-Sage version decreases cooldown to 5 seconds.
-Demon version increases chance to stun to 60%.
PANETRATE ARMOUR
-Sage version always reduces physical defense by 45%.
-Demon version reduces Chi cost to 20.
BEASTIAL ONSLAUGHT
-Sage version extends channeling time by 0.7 seconds, but will never miss.
-Demon version grants 35% increased critical hit rate for 6 seconds.
AXE AND HAMMER MASTERY
-Sage version always increases weapon damage gain to 100%.
-Demon version gives a critical hit rate increase of 2%.
SWELL
-Sage version increases range by 50%.
-Demon version reduces cooldown to 6 seconds.
FIRESTORM
-Sage version adds 1500 Fire damage.
-Demon version has a 25% chance to cast without consuming Spark.
SLAM-Sage version reduces cooldown to 6 seconds.
-Demon version makes each successful hit give 18 Chi.
PERDITION
-Sage version reduces HP and MP cost to 35% of your current total.
-Demon version does 10% extra damage.
FERAL REGENERATION
-Sage version also increase MP regeneration by 10 per second.
-Demon version increases HP regeneration to 35 per second.
INSPIRATION OF THE BEAST KING
-Sage version increases duration to 1 hour.
-Demon version lets affected heros gain 50% more Chi.
BLOOD BATH
-Sage version reduces maximum HP by only 10%.
-Demon version increases accuracy by 300%.
STRENGTH OF THE TITANS
-Sage version always increases damage by 50% of weapon attack.
-Demon version increases critical hit rate by 5% for 1 minute.
TRUE FORM
-Sage version always increases maximum HP by 40%.
-Demon version lets tiger form attacks do full damage.
FLESH REAM
-Sage version reduces Chi cost to 15.
-Demon version reduces cooldown to 2.5 seconds.
ALACRITY OF THE BEAST
-Sage version does 800 extra damage.
-Demon version reduces cooldown by 1 second.
DEVOUR
-Sage version has a 25% to cast without using Chi, instead gaining 35 Chi.
-Demon version increases physical defense reduction to 15 seconds.
SURF IMPACT
-Sage version reduces enemies' speed by 65%.
-Demon version has a 25% chance to freeze the enemy for 4 seconds.
SUNDER
-Sage version always recovers a total of 6666 HP.
-Demon version recovers a total of 4000 HP and makes every attack critical for 5 seconds.
SHAPESHIFTING INTENSITY
-Sage version always increases physical defense gain to 120%.
-Demon version gives a critical hit rate increase of 2%.
BEASTIAL RAGE
-Sage version extends duration to 20 seconds.
-Demon version increases charge to 8 Chi per hit.
POISON FANG
-Sage version increases duration to 30 minutes.
-Demon version always increases damage to 50% of weapon attack.
TALK IS CHEAP (ROAR)
-Sage version reduces enemies' magic attack by 30% for 10 seconds.
-Demon version returns 100% physical damage taken to the attacker for 10 seconds.
FRIGHTEN ("THREATEN" IN PWI?)
-Sage version has a 33% chance to freeze enemies for 3 seconds.
-Demon version has a 20% chance to stun for 3 seconds.
information courtesy of http://ecatomb.net. I dunno about you but i think demon is way better. i am trying to convince barbs to go demon. i realize being sage is better for a tank. but i'm trying to say go demon instead of sage: the sage tank bonuses are good undoubtedly. but i'm telling you to pick demon because the demon bonuses are better OVERALL compared to the bonuses of being sage. decide whether demon or sage is better for each skill one by one. tally up your votes: how many you think sage bonus is better, and how many you think demon bonus is better. demon beat sage in a landslide victory for my results. just my opinion, but try it for yourself: decide whether sage or demon is better for each individual skill then see whether demon or sage is better overall. okay im done now... please post whether you agree with me or not!
BYW: sincere apologies for seizure-conjuring colours!
SKILL NAME [SAGE=THIS COLOR] COLOR="Purple"]DEMON=THIS COLOR[/COLOR
STOMP OF THE BEAST KING
-Sage version gives a successful hit a 25% chance to recover 20 Chi.
-Demon version extends cooldown by 3 seconds, but never misses.
GARROTE
-Sage version increases bleed damage by 15%.
-Demon version reduces bleeding time to 12 seconds(more bleed damage per second)
MIGHTY SWING
-Sage version decreases cooldown to 5 seconds.
-Demon version increases chance to stun to 60%.
PANETRATE ARMOUR
-Sage version always reduces physical defense by 45%.
-Demon version reduces Chi cost to 20.
BEASTIAL ONSLAUGHT
-Sage version extends channeling time by 0.7 seconds, but will never miss.
-Demon version grants 35% increased critical hit rate for 6 seconds.
AXE AND HAMMER MASTERY
-Sage version always increases weapon damage gain to 100%.
-Demon version gives a critical hit rate increase of 2%.
SWELL
-Sage version increases range by 50%.
-Demon version reduces cooldown to 6 seconds.
FIRESTORM
-Sage version adds 1500 Fire damage.
-Demon version has a 25% chance to cast without consuming Spark.
SLAM-Sage version reduces cooldown to 6 seconds.
-Demon version makes each successful hit give 18 Chi.
PERDITION
-Sage version reduces HP and MP cost to 35% of your current total.
-Demon version does 10% extra damage.
FERAL REGENERATION
-Sage version also increase MP regeneration by 10 per second.
-Demon version increases HP regeneration to 35 per second.
INSPIRATION OF THE BEAST KING
-Sage version increases duration to 1 hour.
-Demon version lets affected heros gain 50% more Chi.
BLOOD BATH
-Sage version reduces maximum HP by only 10%.
-Demon version increases accuracy by 300%.
STRENGTH OF THE TITANS
-Sage version always increases damage by 50% of weapon attack.
-Demon version increases critical hit rate by 5% for 1 minute.
TRUE FORM
-Sage version always increases maximum HP by 40%.
-Demon version lets tiger form attacks do full damage.
FLESH REAM
-Sage version reduces Chi cost to 15.
-Demon version reduces cooldown to 2.5 seconds.
ALACRITY OF THE BEAST
-Sage version does 800 extra damage.
-Demon version reduces cooldown by 1 second.
DEVOUR
-Sage version has a 25% to cast without using Chi, instead gaining 35 Chi.
-Demon version increases physical defense reduction to 15 seconds.
SURF IMPACT
-Sage version reduces enemies' speed by 65%.
-Demon version has a 25% chance to freeze the enemy for 4 seconds.
SUNDER
-Sage version always recovers a total of 6666 HP.
-Demon version recovers a total of 4000 HP and makes every attack critical for 5 seconds.
SHAPESHIFTING INTENSITY
-Sage version always increases physical defense gain to 120%.
-Demon version gives a critical hit rate increase of 2%.
BEASTIAL RAGE
-Sage version extends duration to 20 seconds.
-Demon version increases charge to 8 Chi per hit.
POISON FANG
-Sage version increases duration to 30 minutes.
-Demon version always increases damage to 50% of weapon attack.
TALK IS CHEAP (ROAR)
-Sage version reduces enemies' magic attack by 30% for 10 seconds.
-Demon version returns 100% physical damage taken to the attacker for 10 seconds.
FRIGHTEN ("THREATEN" IN PWI?)
-Sage version has a 33% chance to freeze enemies for 3 seconds.
-Demon version has a 20% chance to stun for 3 seconds.
information courtesy of http://ecatomb.net. I dunno about you but i think demon is way better. i am trying to convince barbs to go demon. i realize being sage is better for a tank. but i'm trying to say go demon instead of sage: the sage tank bonuses are good undoubtedly. but i'm telling you to pick demon because the demon bonuses are better OVERALL compared to the bonuses of being sage. decide whether demon or sage is better for each skill one by one. tally up your votes: how many you think sage bonus is better, and how many you think demon bonus is better. demon beat sage in a landslide victory for my results. just my opinion, but try it for yourself: decide whether sage or demon is better for each individual skill then see whether demon or sage is better overall. okay im done now... please post whether you agree with me or not!
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srry i messed up in some parts..all the colors and symbols were confusing b:surrender. PLEASE if you have a question ask me!One corn to rule them all and in the darkness cream them
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I would have to agree with you, if someone furied then sundered, those crits would destroy anything. While your getting healed at that. The critical on Beastial also will be pwnage.Forsakenx gunna make mine so be patient =)b:kiss0
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damn this is lame if you are gonna be a tank then be a tank.
if you area gonna roll damage roll damage.
imho sage is better than demon. everything for sage is locked in guarenteed. the only selling point that there is for demon ins full damage in tiger form. and for those of us who know tiger is not gimped in any way at all.one day the world will shout to me save us....
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It depends on playstyle too.
Demon is good if you PvP. No doubts there. Its total pwnage.
For PvE, I'd still rather go sage. More HP, more pdef, a little less damage.
b:victory
Anyways its a looong way away for me to decide, just yet. For those worried about what skill to get, I suggest you look when you get them b:shocked (and by that I mean what drops the skill books, not what level they can be learnt).When the going gets tough; Get a tank!
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Hazardus - Heavens Tear wrote: »It depends on playstyle too.
Demon is good if you PvP. No doubts there. Its total pwnage.
For PvE, I'd still rather go sage. More HP, more pdef, a little less damage.
b:victory
Anyways its a looong way away for me to decide, just yet. For those worried about what skill to get, I suggest you look when you get them b:shocked (and by that I mean what drops the skill books, not what level they can be learnt).
wow...are u saying that u have to get the skill books for the skills to gain the sage/demon effect?One corn to rule them all and in the darkness cream them
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hmm i have a great idea. i should make another one of these but this time make it more organized and less biased towards demon }:D (i still think the spark eruption version of it is cooler!)One corn to rule them all and in the darkness cream them
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CornHilario - Heavens Tear wrote: »wow...are u saying that u have to get the skill books for the skills to gain the sage/demon effect?
Yep. And then pay a million coins for each skill too....b:chuckleWhen the going gets tough; Get a tank!
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from using the tally, i actually want to go with sage since the benefit is guaranteed, like ppl have said before, and the only thing that makes me want to go demon is the full damage in tiger form0
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Soul_thunder - Sanctuary wrote: »from using the tally, i actually want to go with sage since the benefit is guaranteed, like ppl have said before, and the only thing that makes me want to go demon is the full damage in tiger form
Well you use tiger form in PVE tanking bosses, as its abilities lean more twords maintaning aggro. (So doing full damage in tiger form isnt really needed..PVP wise.., however being able to do full damage w/ hp increase is pretty cool)
PVP, yeah demon seems rather helpful (if you crit..)
Where Sage guarantees most of its abilities. Always hit Beastial Onslaught solves most accuracy issues on fleeing people..yet that cooldown extention time puts me off..
I own a sage book already for True Form Sage, but I'll take a bit to look at my whole self before I choose b:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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