Wizards.Does It Worth It?

loxlox
loxlox Posts: 2 Arc User
edited February 2009 in Wizard
well im 43 wizard.and yes its hardtime for me i suck...but no pain no gain atleast thats how the saying gose...i wanted to know due to all the posts against wizards...is it realy wqorth training class?in long term?does it pays off to lvl it?do they become stronger than any 1 else at any point?or they just suck while the whole playing time cous ei dont wanna be the sucker who lvled a wizard for 100 lvls and turns out that he suck.
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  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    loxlox wrote: »
    Wizards.Does It Worth It?

    Yes. It.. er... does.

    You're gonna have to stick with for a long time, but they definitely pay off in the end. They're pretty severely badass once they're at 90+ and with good gear.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    fuzzles wrote: »
    Yes. It.. er... does.

    You're gonna have to stick with for a long time, but they definitely pay off in the end. They're pretty severely badass once they're at 90+ and with good gear.

    still under question b:bye
    Is Back once more.

    sorry med school needs some time.
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    still under question b:bye

    Not really. The class or game isn't new, it's just "under question" for the people in this server.
    As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    No, it's not really worth it. Light mages are a powerhouse but only at 90 or later, and it'll take you a while to get there.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Because the bigger your damage, the bigger your epeen.
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora - Lost City wrote: »
    No, it's not really worth it. Light mages are a powerhouse but only at 90 or later, and it'll take you a while to get there.

    For all ye new players, this is Pandora. He says things.......

    Now, mages begin to bloom in their 90's with their 90HH gear, with some good accessories and what not. They also need to have some adequate upgrades and stones of course... But, their prime is at 100+, which not many people actually get there, so it's not really a beginner's class, or for someone who is just passing by. I will not comment on builds, but by 90+ a person should know what's best for their class, if not, well, yeah... no comments.

    However, if you're having trouble at a low level, you should experiment with a different class first, to get the hang of the game.
    As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Tryangle - Lost City
    Tryangle - Lost City Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora generally speaks from a PvP standpoint. In that context, yes, his statement is correct.

    If you plan on never stepping foot outside the safe zone, and grinding HH's and FB's all day, then ignore everything he says.
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Tryangle - Lost City wrote: »
    If you plan on never stepping foot outside the safe zone, and grinding HH's and FB's all day, then ignore everything he says.

    Mages in HH? Ohoho, that's rich.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Because the bigger your damage, the bigger your epeen.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora - Lost City wrote: »
    Mages in HH? Ohoho, that's rich.
    Depending on your guild you can get into HH runs yes.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Pandora - Lost City
    Pandora - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    Depending on your guild you can get into HH runs yes.

    If your guild takes you into HH runs your guild needs to be slapped.

    Wizards bring absolutely nothing to the table. Archers have sharpentooth arrow, warriors have a pdef buff, and venomancers have BY FAR the best damage of any class in HH (by like, 1.5x).

    Wizards have... Uh... Er... Sutrahealing?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Because the bigger your damage, the bigger your epeen.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora - Lost City wrote: »
    If your guild takes you into HH runs your guild needs to be slapped.

    Wizards bring absolutely nothing to the table. Archers have sharpentooth arrow, warriors have a pdef buff, and venomancers have BY FAR the best damage of any class in HH (by like, 1.5x).

    Wizards have... Uh... Er... Sutrahealing?

    we are doomed to have the worst gear just like we are doomed to be the worst pvpers and the programmers are still cooking something up to doom us more..
    Is Back once more.

    sorry med school needs some time.
  • VonTerror - Lost City
    VonTerror - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora - Lost City wrote: »
    If your guild takes you into HH runs your guild needs to be slapped.

    Wizards bring absolutely nothing to the table. Archers have sharpentooth arrow, warriors have a pdef buff, and venomancers have BY FAR the best damage of any class in HH (by like, 1.5x).

    Wizards have... Uh... Er... Sutrahealing?

    Wizzards bring personality and fun b:victory
    b:bye
  • VonTerror - Lost City
    VonTerror - Lost City Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    WTB HH 1-2 run, pm please
    b:bye
  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    VonTerror - Lost City wrote: »
    Wizzards bring personality and fun b:victory

    Hah, not Pandora.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    a very common story you all had it and it goes like this....

    once upon a time there was a nefty little wizard who wanted good gear.Jealous of all his cleric and veno freinds's gear he went to guild chat asking for a squad and as usual a couple sayed yeah wth lets give it a go but some how that mage cant still find a barb or a veno or a cleric to take him to his TT run so he kept looking as he was looking his other friends grew tired and awkward of being in a semi useless party so they all apologized and left..

    now here is how the stroy goes for other classes....

    fairy the happy little cleric was one day happy cuz he got a mold in an FB run after he was called in it by everyone as he was going to make that mold he heared another cleric in gc ask for a TT run he sayed sure wth now there is 2 clerics in this squad suddenly everyone in guild wanted to be a part of this 2 cleric holy run so they started to pick who to come and who to go :)...


    the moral my children from this story is "YOU WILL NEVER GET A TT RUN UNLESS YOU ARE THE GROUPS FLUNKY" you dont like it go play something else and save yourself the time mind and stress of it.
    Is Back once more.

    sorry med school needs some time.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Pandora - Lost City wrote: »
    Wizards have... Uh... Er... Sutrahealing?

    That made me lol.
  • Mystify - Lost City
    Mystify - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    if there is lag they dont even have that :)
    oh lets not forget the mighty frostbladeb:victory
    retired from archlord, rohan
  • jemima
    jemima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    a very common story you all had it and it goes like this....*snip*
    fairy the happy little cleric was one day happy cuz he got a mold in an FB run after he was called in it by everyone as he was going to make that mold...
    *snip*
    That happy little cleric isn't going to be so happy after he doesn't get invited back to more fb runs after stealing the tabbers mold.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    ....lawl....
  • DeOso - Lost City
    DeOso - Lost City Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You know Pandora, I find it hysterical that although you constantly slander wizards, your a level 90 one.

    Perhaps you have discovered that Wizards are truly amazing and don't want anyone else to be one?
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    DeOso, I've actually thought that many times, lol.
  • sotsf
    sotsf Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    After reading many 'wizards shine after level 90' posts, I have question.
    Doesn't Every class shine after level 90 ?b:thanks
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    every class becomes more useful I would imagine, but none compare to how much a wizard improves at that point from what I see
  • Calibix - Heavens Tear
    Calibix - Heavens Tear Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    every class becomes more useful I would imagine, but none compare to how much a wizard improves at that point from what I see

    Though I probably know what your going to say, just from a devil's advocate stand point, what is it you think that makes wizards improve so much more at that level than other classes?
  • jemima
    jemima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Calibix - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Though I probably know what your going to say, just from a devil's advocate stand point, what is it you think that makes wizards improve so much more at that level than other classes?
    I believe the argument is that they start off worse, so they have more room to improve in.
  • Calibix - Heavens Tear
    Calibix - Heavens Tear Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    jemima wrote: »
    I believe the argument is that they start off worse, so they have more room to improve in.

    I realize that, I want to know specifically what he thinks makes us better at that point. Like, clerics still > wiz imo, so I'd just like to hear his opinions.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Calibix - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I realize that, I want to know specifically what he thinks makes us better at that point. Like, clerics still > wiz imo, so I'd just like to hear his opinions.

    I'm not 100% sure, but I'd say the TT90 (or HH90) gear is what makes the wizard better because they go from squishy to not so squishy i.e better survivability.

    Don't hold me on that though.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lets see, I think the ability to take out even a barb in under 5 seconds is a hell of an improvement from like 30 seconds, let alone a bm, or archer or most classes for that matter. The reason I say 90 instead of 89 is the armor and weapon upgrade, a lot more dmg and a lot more survivability, unless the cleric crits a couple times, it will never kill anywhere near as fast as we do, being as someone that does pvp is always full party buffed, or atleast trys to be all the time, on top of our own buffs, our stats destory that of a clerics, and at lv 100, lol... gg... from 90 on nothing should be able to kill you 1v1 and for some classes 2 vs you, but to make this truth, the player needs a lot of skill and timing, which they should have learned from the previous 89 levels. Sure. a cleric will always be a bit harder, but they still fall before its over, but to each his own, if you think clerics are better, thats your call, but my opinion will never change, and no, i never said that it is FACT, its from what I see, and have experianced myself, so its opinion.

    EDIT: didnt see your post till afterwards legerity, but yea, thats plays a large roll ^^
  • Calibix - Heavens Tear
    Calibix - Heavens Tear Posts: 105 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I'm not 100% sure, but I'd say the TT90 (or HH90) gear is what makes the wizard better because they go from squishy to not so squishy i.e better survivability.

    Don't hold me on that though.

    Hmm, maybe but I doubt it. Any wiz worth his salt that wears arcane should know that TT 70-80 is garbage, and should be looking for hp and pdef mod on crafted. However, maybe you are correct in a sense. Since I see a lot of people running around in TT gear pre-90 (as arcane I'm speaking), perhaps they get such an upgrade from TT90 armor that it seems like a significant improvement, whereas a wizard such as myself who already forgoes the TT 70-80 armor for hp and pdef would not see as much as an improvement.

    Don't mistake my words however, I do think TT90 is excellent arcane gear. For me the only difference would be I'd probably be using pdef shards instead of HP shards at that level.

    Edit: didn't see streakers post until after I posted this. So if gear is only a small part of what makes wizard better after 90, what are the larger factors?
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    The damage output at level 89 becomes so much more, thus you kill a LOT faster, thus take less damage if your smart about what you do, and yes, im staying pure, and using only Pdef shards, my hp is total ****, but i can accept that, and with +150% Pdef from only our own buff, we have as much as a regular non buffed light armor user, then add in to account bm and cleric Pdef buffs, yes, its still a bit less then other light/heavy users, but unlike clerics, we get the best of both worlds without taking a hit to our dmg, and don't be fulled by a clerics elemental seal, thats them begging us to use undine on them, and thier plume shell, its not hard for a wizard to keep themself alive for 20 seconds and nuke 'em.

    But again, this is how I see things, the major dmg increase on top of the better survivability > that of any other class, and with the additional player skill we gain from 89 lvls of hell makes it that much better

    edit: and now I go to sleep for a few hours, I'll be sure to check back for any additional questions as far as why I see wizards as the most improved and superior class IN MY OPINION. (to avoid all the hate messages from the archers and such, yes, I see wizards as the best class, and I have my reasons as I'm sure you have your reasons for thinking your class is superior) good night.
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