Atk or Support

First off all, Thunder ball lv3 is useless, waste your spirit on plume shot and great cyclone. Cause attack and support clerics need to have that maxed.
(grinding, and its the best combo)

Heals:max your iron heart, its the only heal ppl will want to hear you have maxed in all FBs till FB51 and its also for attack and support clerics.

Now comes some difference:
Support: resurrection maxed for your lvl if possible, you will want your buffs maxed out as soon as you can too.

Attack: you will find spending spirit and money on debuffs, razor leaf (your best aoe for lv40ish) while keeping your buffs, res and other heals (except iron heart)
very low.

But dont worry later on you get loads of spirit, but no coins, and after that there is no real difference between an attack, support cleric

Make sure to max your ironheart, purify and buffs as soon as possible, and take blue ball and red ball. Res is also a good idea, but not exactly top priority. Personally I don't see any real reason to level res beyond 7 or 8. The important thing is not to let people notice that it's not maxed. If they happen to lose a bit of extra xp, too bad for them. As long as they don't notice, it's all good.

But yeah, ironheart, purify, buffs, blue ball and red ball. That's the essentials. After that, level whatever you please. Your party won't care what you dumped your skill points in as long as you can do your job.

If you have those leveled, you're not an attack cleric.

By the same token, if you're reasonably competent, a decent team player and not a total ****, you're definitely not an attack cleric.

Mint_sage - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've been thinking it over, but still I dunno which I might be.

Well anyways, is at least ANYONE half atk & half support (that's me, btwb:victory)? Everyone seems to be either full atk or full support in the higher levels, and I'm getting worried, since I'm getting to lvl 30 and my skills are a struggle to obtain with money&spirit shortage. My skills are out of whack (Thunderball is lvl 3 and ect., my atk and heal skills are in a sort of balance.) so I just might as well have a specialty. What do you suggest? ALSO, TELLING ME TO BE SAGE OR DEMON MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA!

Also I don't like being a damsel in distress. But a support cleric is still okay.b:cute

I'm a light armor cleric (1 on str & dex and 3 on mag), there's no full attack or full support thing, really.I max: plume shot, great cyclone, ironheart, wellspring, spirit's gift and flyng mastery (a bonus) while keeping a good balance on my shield spells (no plume shell included, i will lvl plume shell once I start getting into PvP, TW etc.) so far I have absolutely no problems with my char, the skills I need are always maxed and seriously I don't see hard times coming any time soon, the more I lvl the easier it becomes.. needless to say that I never had any problems with squads, I even joined a squad for FB29 as a healer while I could easily do DD as well b:victory

Hope this helps

Past lv60, the difference stops being attack/support and becomes more like: you suck / you dont suck

Lv70+ you need to be able to bubble SoulGatherer 1-2 without dying on the last 20% HP AoE attacks. If you dont, you suck.
Lv80+ you need to be able to bubble SoulGatherer 1-3 without dying on this same attack, now twice as strong. If you survive, you dont suck.


Dead Cleric = worthless cleric


Becomes simple as that.

Attack cleric = rule and suck
Support cleric = rule and suck (I reckon they suck and suck)
Attack/Support = rule and rule but really expencive

If a FaC cleric decides to choose demon path they will out damage a mage,
demon path is my preferd option
go Ecatomb.net and check out the sage/demon effects

Support clerics don't suck. Ask anyone ANYWHERE past level 40.

And these so called "full attack clerics" are like lvl 30-40 nubs (the few lvls clerics actually do alot of dmg compared to other classes) and they will quit before lvl 50 and dunno shiet about what it means to be a cleric

Those still exist past lv60, the ones with full mag builds that cant take one hit without instant dying.
And usually they join the chart of "suck".

fuzzles wrote: »

No cleric will ever out-damage a mage with the same type of build, level and gear.

Mage skills simply do more damage. Live with it.

And don't start throwing around crapola about that cleric magic attack buff. That doesn't count. No one parties without clerics where it counts.

don't cleric attack skills ahve faster cast time?.. so in all honest truth mages are stronger attacks but lower cast time.. meaning that clerics can hit around or slightly better than mage because of cast time

I personally do support and attack in squads. I have a FAC build for the most part and can heal just fine. Yeah, I have little bit less hp, but if you are in squad with a barb the vit buff makes up for it. You can also use genie skills like Tree of Protection and Second wind to keep your hp up in tight spots. Several of the heals depend on magic pts, so clerics with higher magic have stronger heals. Plus you can kick butt with high damage attacks if you feel like it. You are not fail just because you choose FAC build, you just need to know how to play your character and you'll be fine no matter which way you choose to go.

Spirit I wouldn't worry too much about.. I have plenty of spirit (over 11mil at the moment), just lacking coin to level up secondary skills (and all my heals are already maxed of course).

When it comes to sage or demon, you really need to go to ecatomb and compare skills to see what you think will suit you best. Personally, I am going demon because there are more chi boosts, but both demon and sage clerics are great healers and damage dealers.

And I totally agree with TigerLily, no matter what build you are, clerics will always be healers and attackers as needed. Clerics are a class that require adaptability and versatility to be successful.

A full attack cleric was maybe something to do a year and a half ago. There's really no place anymore endgame for an attack cleric in a squad that's not a specific BH100. If you don't heal and/or don't BB then you don't go. Any good cleric is going to be a mix of attack and heal. Sounds politically correct (and I hate political correctness) but it's 100% true.