TT/HH70 Armor?

AlpineFrost - Lost City
AlpineFrost - Lost City Posts: 362 Arc User
edited February 2009 in The Crafting Nook
Is it worth making? My friend was doing TT1-2 last night with some other players (who were real pricks) and he mentioned he was thinking about making the HH70 robes and they just straight up told him "only noobs make HH70 armor" Is there a reason they said that or where they just being giant douchers?

thanks!b:victory
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  • Envy - Lost City
    Envy - Lost City Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Is it worth making? My friend was doing TT1-2 last night with some other players (who were real pricks) and he mentioned he was thinking about making the HH70 robes and they just straight up told him "only noobs make HH70 armor" Is there a reason they said that or where they just being giant douchers?

    thanks!b:victory

    Non of the hh armor is very good until 90hh green and 99 gold. (90 gold sucks **** to)

    80 gold is good, but it auto bounds so its extremely expensive to obtain just to have it sit around and never use it again once you hit 90. Once you hit 90 the only thing any class would want gold is the wrist, because they give -interval for light, and -channeling for robes.

    In order to get gold 90 you need the green 80, and to get the green 80 you need the green 70.

    70HH armor is pretty useless imo and so is 80, I went thru 80 just on high 7x molds and some **** 6x boots, and i just grinded with gear that only had water defense.
  • AlpineFrost - Lost City
    AlpineFrost - Lost City Posts: 362 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Ok so,

    If you need the Green 70 HH armor to make anything decent later on, why not just make it and use it till you can decomp and upgrade? I just found it odd that those players would say that only noobs make ther armor when i've seen lots of BL, RQ and even a few CQ wearing it lol!
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    They just say that becuase after all, its a pvp server and they want easy kills. If they tell you its **** and you don't get it, they can kill you easier.
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  • demise
    demise Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Ok so,

    If you need the Green 70 HH armor to make anything decent later on, why not just make it and use it till you can decomp and upgrade? I just found it odd that those players would say that only noobs make ther armor when i've seen lots of BL, RQ and even a few CQ wearing it lol!

    Personal preference I guess. Since a majority (or plan to) use the green HH90, you won't need the decompositions for green HH70.
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    They just say that becuase after all, its a pvp server and they want easy kills. If they tell you its **** and you don't get it, they can kill you easier.

    Listening to this obvious troll is a smart thing to do. Please do it, because she is well known for her great advice.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I have the 70 set and I plan to give it to my wizard and cleric when they hit 70. Don't want 80 set because 1: don't need it for 90 and 2: can save the 70 set for my other characters.

    I'm still using the legs and boots of the TT 70 set since nothing better has popped up yet in molds or otherwise.
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  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I have the 70 set and I plan to give it to my wizard and cleric when they hit 70. Don't want 80 set because 1: don't need it for 90 and 2: can save the 70 set for my other characters.

    I'm still using the legs and boots of the TT 70 set since nothing better has popped up yet in molds or otherwise.

    You have HH70 equips.


    Someone in HT go white and kill this idiot. Film it for bonus points.
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  • Reeperofevil - Sanctuary
    Reeperofevil - Sanctuary Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Well, here is the thing. Your friend was a caster (seeing as you mentioned HH70 robes) but casters don't rely as much on their equipment, seeing as they are ment to kill the mob/enemy before it gets to them. Tanks on the other hand are VERY dependant on armor/weapons, so contrary to what the *cough* archers and caster posted on this thread, HH/TT70 armor is worth getting. But, at level 77-79, I suggest getting the mold armor as it is much better than the HH/TT70. b:pleased
  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Listening to this obvious troll is a smart thing to do. Please do it, because she is well known for her great advice.

    I should mention that this approach to dealing with people captures some of major reasons for not wanting to play on lost city. (This was my first character I created.)

    Zoe has expressed some ideas which I disagree with, but she has also expressed some ideas I agree with. And I have agreed with some of your responses (not just you, of course) and I have disagreed with others. And, frequently, I do not know enough to decide if I agree with either of you.

    In this case, I do not know enough to decide if I agree with Zoe, but even if I disagreed with her, I could not reasonably agree with you.

    I had seen some commentary coming from people on lost city which had made me reconsider my decision to avoid your server. But when I see a whole pack of you being this way, I know I would have lost interest in playing if I spent my time over there.

    But I am glad you have fun being here!
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    I should mention that this approach to dealing with people captures some of major reasons for not wanting to play on lost city. (This was my first character I created.)

    Zoe has expressed some ideas which I disagree with, but she has also expressed some ideas I agree with. And I have agreed with some of your responses (not just you, of course) and I have disagreed with others. And, frequently, I do not know enough to decide if I agree with either of you.

    In this case, I do not know enough to decide if I agree with Zoe, but even if I disagreed with her, I could not reasonably agree with you.

    I had seen some commentary coming from people on lost city which had made me reconsider my decision to avoid your server. But when I see a whole pack of you being this way, I know I would have lost interest in playing if I spent my time over there.

    But I am glad you have fun being here!
    You obviously haven't seen her other posts. Don't comment till you know exactly how stupid she really is.
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  • Ermosa - Heavens Tear
    Ermosa - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    i more wonder is it worth to make 4 chained xbows to lvl 100 Punishing Thunder xbow.
    Heart of nature mat have 0.0042% chance to drop.... seems impossible to get that xbow done o.o
  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You obviously haven't seen her other posts. Don't comment till you know exactly how stupid she really is.

    You obviously did not understand anything I wrote, which might be my fault. If so, I need to simplify my stance:

    I do not know anything about why HH70 armor would be such a bad choice. Could you explain?

    Thank you.
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You obviously did not understand anything I wrote, which might be my fault. If so, I need to simplify my stance:

    I do not know anything about why HH70 armor would be such a bad choice. Could you explain?

    Thank you.
    Non of the hh armor is very good until 90hh green and 99 gold


    70HH armor is pretty useless imo .

    I assumed you could have figured it out from Envy's posts obviously not.

    It's a bad choice because it sucks and it's better to just wear molders for those levels.

    There.

    EDIT: Look, I was nice and even found you another quote.
    senovit wrote: »
    Just to interject something, TT70 Light armor sucks. Don't get it. Get the level 69 pants mold from fb70, and the level 77 shirt mold from fb79.

    Same view all round. The molds are better, simple as that really. Zoe believes we're telling people not to wear them so they can be weak but then, Zoe's probably a one shot to everyone on her server.
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  • senovit
    senovit Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    My quote was directed at light armor. Robes/Heavy armor probably suck too, but I can't say it with any certainty. Just check the bonuses out and see if you think they'll be useful to you and aren't just LOL +200 FIRE RESIST. :A
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  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    senovit wrote: »
    My quote was directed at light armor. Robes/Heavy armor probably suck too, but I can't say it with any certainty. Just check the bonuses out and see if you think they'll be useful to you and aren't just LOL +200 FIRE RESIST. :A

    Yeah, I know but (s)he doesn't seem to be willing to *just* accept it and I'm not going to do a full comparison of stats just to prove Zoe of all people wrong.
    b:victory

    Past this point, anyone who's still interested in the idea of HH70 armour is not serious about their character.
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  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    For example, you might wear your TT70 chest for seven levels before you reach level 77?

    If by "molds" you meant armor of barbarian shaman, does not swiftwind chest offers better protection? Or did you just mean higher level gear is better?

    Am I missing something?
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    For example, you might wear your TT70 chest for seven levels before you reach level 77?

    If by "molds" you meant armor of barbarian shaman, does not swiftwind chest offers better protection? Or did you just mean higher level gear is better?

    Am I missing something?

    No, just find any 3-star **** for 70->78, its not that long. It's a massive waste of time to farm TT70 armour for any reason, unless you actually are rich enough to want to buy it and dump after 8 levels.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dump it after 8 levels? No I dumped my TT70 top after 5. Got rank 4 at that time. Then the arms at 77 for of course Sleeves of Sea Captain. I have yet to find any molds that are worth my time to get to replace the pants and boots. They are all lower level with **** stats.

    I have a hercules, why would I NOT get the TT 70 when the mats are so easy for me to get? =p

    About getting 1 shotted? Funny thing, no one can ever seem to do that.
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  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Dump it after 8 levels? No I dumped my TT70 top after 5. Got rank 4 at that time. Then the arms at 77 for of course Sleeves of Sea Captain. I have yet to find any molds that are worth my time to get to replace the pants and boots. They are all lower level with **** stats.

    Well then! Thank you for assisting our point, let's see.. multiple HH runs for HH70 armour or a few hundred k for perfectly good 3star gear which will last till the molder.

    Even if HH70 was good, it's not worth it, and I think at this point it's possible to /discussion.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    No, just find any 3-star **** for 70->78, its not that long. It's a massive waste of time to farm TT70 armour for any reason, unless you actually are rich enough to want to buy it and dump after 8 levels.
    Well then! Thank you for assisting our point, let's see.. multiple HH runs for HH70 armour or a few hundred k for perfectly good 3star gear which will last till the molder.

    Even if HH70 was good, it's not worth it, and I think at this point it's possible to /discussion.

    You fail. You fail hard, but then again, when have you not failed other than never? Have you ever heard the concept of making money? I didn't think so. I do TT runs to sell the mats. I figured while I was in there, I may as well make the darn armor as well so I have something to use until higher level. 3* gear most often does not have all 5 element defense, which is worthless to me. Plus all my TT 70 gear had 3-4 sockets which proved most useful. Also with 3 other characters that will eventually get to 70, its anything but useless. Why get molds for all of them when I can just share my armor considering I have no idea when my veno will be done using said molds?

    Its called planning ahead. Something you don't seem to understand the concept of.b:bye
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  • Chaotiic - Lost City
    Chaotiic - Lost City Posts: 498 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Is it worth making? My friend was doing TT1-2 last night with some other players (who were real pricks) and he mentioned he was thinking about making the HH70 robes and they just straight up told him "only noobs make HH70 armor" Is there a reason they said that or where they just being giant douchers?

    thanks!b:victory

    Its not really worth getting as at lv 70 leveling is rather easy so u will probably go from 70>>78 quite quickly. HH70 gear is a bit of a pain to get as u have to form pts and do multiple runs for 1 piece. Generally by the time u finish ur hh70 set ur at least 72 so u will only be using it for 6 levels. You are muh better off getting some decent 3* gear to last till 78 whenu can get the molders. You can also use the fairly good quest items u get at 70 which is wat most of us did at the start of the server. If u have money u can buy a hh70 set but its not really worth it. HH70 armour = too much effort/time or too much money when ur only using it for 8 or less levels.
    You fail. You fail hard, but then again, when have you not failed other than never? Have you ever heard the concept of making money? I didn't think so. I do TT runs to sell the mats. I figured while I was in there, I may as well make the darn armor as well so I have something to use until higher level. 3* gear most often does not have all 5 element defense, which is worthless to me. Plus all my TT 70 gear had 3-4 sockets which proved most useful. Also with 3 other characters that will eventually get to 70, its anything but useless. Why get molds for all of them when I can just share my armor considering I have no idea when my veno will be done using said molds?

    Its called planning ahead. Something you don't seem to understand the concept of.b:bye

    Zoe u were originally attacked because u shrugged off peoples opinions by coming up with the silly idea that lost city players give bad advice so ur easier to kill. That simply isnt true we generally give the most accurate advice as virtually all of the high level and experienced players from the other servers went to lost city and by high level i mean 90+. Its a fact life at 9x is boring if u cant pvp so all those who have experience 9x b4 wouldnt dream of joining a server where the majority of people will not pvp. Notice i said majority.

    Also Zoe u must understand u are a wf obtaining hh gear is relatively easy and cheap for u. In fact it actually gains u money so its not a surprise u have it. For other classes however hh70 gear isnt worth the money, time and effort required for something that doesnt last very long at all.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    LC players want as many new players in the server as they can because thats more low levels for them to kill. They want you to have bad gear so you are easier to kill. I know this becuase its what I did when I played the other version of this game. =p I wasn't the one killing low levels though.

    If the gear is so bad, why do the mats for it sell so well? Why are there tons of TT 70 sets all over the server? Makes no sense to me based on what you say.
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  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    You fail. You fail hard, but then again, when have you not failed other than never? Have you ever heard the concept of making money? I didn't think so. I do TT runs to sell the mats. I figured while I was in there, I may as well make the darn armor as well so I have something to use until higher level. 3* gear most often does not have all 5 element defense, which is worthless to me. Plus all my TT 70 gear had 3-4 sockets which proved most useful. Also with 3 other characters that will eventually get to 70, its anything but useless. Why get molds for all of them when I can just share my armor considering I have no idea when my veno will be done using said molds?

    Its called planning ahead. Something you don't seem to understand the concept of.b:bye

    There are much easier, faster and more efficient ways to make money, especially in TT. I'll leave you to figure out how, genius. b:bye
    They want you to have bad gear so you are easier to kill. I know this becuase its what I did when I played the other version of this game. =p

    ...No comment needed.
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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    See Mua, you failed yet again. I have nothing to gain by telling you to get bad gear, I don't even play on the server. I'm doing things the other way around this time on everything. I'm not doing pk, I'm actually helping players rather than messing them up on purpose. I know how pkers do things, I've played on both sides of it now. It also makes no sense for me to direct people to not use gear that I myself am using.

    What are you even doing on the pvp server when you don't actually pvp at all anyway? At least use the server for what its entire point is.
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  • Cyanea - Lost City
    Cyanea - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    No, just find any 3-star **** for 70->78, its not that long. It's a massive waste of time to farm TT70 armour for any reason, unless you actually are rich enough to want to buy it and dump after 8 levels.

    I thought you needed to disassemble swiftwind armor to make lunar armor, and I also thought that you needed to disassemble lunar armor to make general's armor?

    But if you can not make TT70 armor then I can easily see that you would not want to buy any.

    But if this was your original point, you did not spell tailor correctly: "Tailor" has an "a" and an "i" and does not have two "l"s. (I am sorry but I could not resist!)

    b:shutup
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    *skips most of thread*

    TT70 armor is indeed needed to make TT80. But unless you're going for gold set in the 90s, it stops after that. (Don't quote me.)

    I personally didn't bother with the armor. If you can get it, legendary can be just as good. 3* are a bit worse, but decent. It's really just preference. TT70 armor is good in that you get the good stats at your 70s, instead of waiting till you reach the right level for the equipment. However, they are by no means necessary.
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  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    See Mua, you failed yet again. I have nothing to gain by telling you to get bad gear, I don't even play on the server. I'm doing things the other way around this time on everything. I'm not doing pk, I'm actually helping players rather than messing them up on purpose. I know how pkers do things, I've played on both sides of it now. It also makes no sense for me to direct people to not use gear that I myself am using.

    What are you even doing on the pvp server when you don't actually pvp at all anyway? At least use the server for what its entire point is.

    Obvious trolling is obvious.

    But you know what, **** it! Everyone GET HH70 armour! It's a great idea! Pay good money for it or even better, farm it yourself using time that could be better spent getting level 78. Do it because a heaven's tear genius believes we're trying to mess you up. Do it because despite the fact that everyone and their mother says not to get it, Zoe is famous for her knowledge. But most importantly, do it for the lulz.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Just look at the bonus for TT 70. Its not really that good, it actually sucks, compared to the time it takes farming it ^_^

    Arcane set for TT 70: only thats decent is the robe giving 4-5 int. Rest gives like mp, mp-recovery and different types of mag def as bonus. Pretty useless since arcane users need phy def, vita or magic. They sure dont need more mp.

    Maybe the heavy set with all the extra phy def is usefull for lower lvls barbs/BM tanking stuff, i really dont know since i never played a heavy user. But for light/arcane the bonus sucks. Its not that hard finding 3 star gear with so much better bonus than TT70 and mix it with moulders (if u can afford).
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Phy def does not matter considering most monsters in that level range are magic. Phy def becomes worthless. You need that magic def for that level range. Not only that, even with my mp recovery skills I found myself always running out from 76 to 81. The extra mp helped.
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  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lolz sorry i forgot b:surrender

    Most Heaven Tears players only focus on fighting mobs at lvl 70+

    Than im sure mp recovery and a little extra waterdef/earth def is pretty usefull for grinding those magic quest mobs b:cute.

    But for any form of pvp the TT70 is ****. Specially i would say for wiz, they really dont have any use of the bonuses what so ever. And they really need phy def and hp, so TT70 set is almost suicide if used in pvp for them.