ok.. this is getting ridiculous
Vinat - Sanctuary
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i am lvl 54 and still havent dont the fb49/51 because i have mob/item drop quests in there and NO ONE will do an un-wined run... and if i use wine it completely defeeats the purpose of entering.
on top of that i have 20/20 quests, cannot accept any new ones, and if i recall correctly... the call to duty adds to the list, if even only for a few mins while the boss is being killed. if thats the case i wont even be able to do the fbs until i clear out the mob quests,, but like i said, cant find a single person on this entire server to help me with an un-wined one.
i asked one guy who was advertisig for wined fbs how the hell im supposed to get all my stuff done if i use wine, he told me "make a team and go in"...
if i need to "make a team and go in" by myself.. why the hell am i gonna spend coin/time getting wine and use it for a bunch of high lvls to kill my boss and mooch off the exp? if i need to wait until im high enough lvl to kill all the **** by myself, i might as well wait and kill the bosses alone too.
if anyone is willing to help with an unwined run, pm me in game.
on top of that i have 20/20 quests, cannot accept any new ones, and if i recall correctly... the call to duty adds to the list, if even only for a few mins while the boss is being killed. if thats the case i wont even be able to do the fbs until i clear out the mob quests,, but like i said, cant find a single person on this entire server to help me with an un-wined one.
i asked one guy who was advertisig for wined fbs how the hell im supposed to get all my stuff done if i use wine, he told me "make a team and go in"...
if i need to "make a team and go in" by myself.. why the hell am i gonna spend coin/time getting wine and use it for a bunch of high lvls to kill my boss and mooch off the exp? if i need to wait until im high enough lvl to kill all the **** by myself, i might as well wait and kill the bosses alone too.
if anyone is willing to help with an unwined run, pm me in game.
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seriously? deal with it, cuz it only gets worse as you go up in lvls, if your dead serious about doing it unwined, find a group of friends, or better yet, spam arch chat to see who the hell needs the quest, its as simple as that[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Find ChickenWeed in game,
I do 19~51fb unwined0 -
amale 43 veno, Oishasan 36 support cleric..
I will go unwined into anything.Oishasan
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Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »i am lvl 54 and still havent dont the fb49/51 because i have mob/item drop quests in there and NO ONE will do an un-wined run... and if i use wine it completely defeeats the purpose of entering.
on top of that i have 20/20 quests, cannot accept any new ones, and if i recall correctly... the call to duty adds to the list, if even only for a few mins while the boss is being killed. if thats the case i wont even be able to do the fbs until i clear out the mob quests,, but like i said, cant find a single person on this entire server to help me with an un-wined one.
i asked one guy who was advertisig for wined fbs how the hell im supposed to get all my stuff done if i use wine, he told me "make a team and go in"...
if i need to "make a team and go in" by myself.. why the hell am i gonna spend coin/time getting wine and use it for a bunch of high lvls to kill my boss and mooch off the exp? if i need to wait until im high enough lvl to kill all the **** by myself, i might as well wait and kill the bosses alone too.
if anyone is willing to help with an unwined run, pm me in game.
I could get you a group willing to do it unwined instantly, pm me ingameb:bye0 -
hitch a ride on other people's wined fb51, it should clear some quests. trash quests u can't do yet, or those that are repeatable.
going for afew wined fbs will eventually get u all the mobs u need anyway. be helpful.
lastly, find a good faction with good members who will help u do a fb unwined...0 -
ur a veno right? U can solo this fb excluding the bosses.0
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Don't forget to call me when you got that fb51 b:pleasedDeadbone - Sanctuary wrote: »I could get you a group willing to do it unwined instantly, pm me ingameb:bye0 -
Ok, i can tank the bosses and you heal meb:chuckleSager - Sanctuary wrote: »Don't forget to call me when you got that fb51 b:pleased0 -
MiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »ur a veno right? U can solo this fb excluding the bosses.
This statement is completely false. Please disregard it kthnx. b:bye0 -
MiniST - Sanctuary wrote: »ur a veno right? U can solo this fb excluding the bosses.Deadbone - Sanctuary wrote: »This statement is completely false. Please disregard it kthnx. b:bye
Actually assuming he/she is any good at pulling and has a Magmite with good def, and a decent mag attack on him/herself then with enough time it shouldn't be too hard to solo the mobs, all it takes is patience and probably a few hours. As for unwined runs, after fb 29 if you want to get random people who don't know you to do an unwined run, you better be willing to wait 20 lvls to finally find a party willing to because ti takes so long, and it yields minimal extra experiance over doing a wined run. As for you having 20/20 quests, wtf! You should probably think about doing your quests every level so you don't get into this predictament. I know there are some boss quests, but unless you still have bosses back to Krixxix you should have some quests you can solo...0 -
I love doing fb19-51 unwined it builds up teamwork and its fun if you have the right group of people.
Whats really ridiculus is ppl whispering begging you to help them and when you do get a squad to help them with their FB's they dont listen to you and get the whole squad killed. We're patient enough to say its okay and continue on and still doesnt listen. They cause our squad to get wiped out again and then leaves the fb unfinished saying its our fault..
No wonder no one helps ppl with unwined b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WindGaurdian - Sanctuary wrote: »I love doing fb19-51 unwined it builds up teamwork and its fun if you have the right group of people.
Whats really ridiculus is ppl whispering begging you to help them and when you do get a squad to help them with their FB's they dont listen to you and get the whole squad killed. We're patient enough to say its okay and continue on and still doesnt listen. They cause our squad to get wiped out again and then leaves the fb unfinished saying its our fault..
No wonder no one helps ppl with unwined b:pleased
QFT. The only reason I don't do FBs for non-faction people is that I do my best to not have idiots in my faction.0 -
arent fb 19-51 usually unwined anyways? i mean my fb59 and 69 were wined so um pretty muc after fb51 ur fbs will be winedb:victory0
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ShadeKitty - Sanctuary wrote: »I do my best to not have idiots in my faction.
True that. ^__^[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Flying to continue my journey..0 -
couldnt get any friends who needed it to go in lol. but i got it done, thanks a bunch to those who helped me, you know who you are (doubt they come on here tho).
and 1-im a she. 2- ive got a herc. 3-im still a herc noob. so theoretically i can solo inside, i just cant do it very well yet.
thanks for all the replies tho.0 -
ShadeKitty - Sanctuary wrote: »QFT. The only reason I don't do FBs for non-faction people is that I do my best to not have idiots in my faction.
The problem I have with this is not all of us who ask for help with unwined fbs are idiots who don't know how to listen. I managed after several days to get my unwined fb39 done with a group from another faction. It was fast and quite easy, I got in a few hits and i got some coins which made me happy. I stayed in the back and when we got to a boss they knew I couldn't handle, they warned me and I listened. In fact, I let them keep the drops because hey, they were doing me a favor. So for u to say something like that, is a generalization and makes you seem pretty selfish and petty.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I'm just a vagabond with flowers for Algernon...0 -
Rosewhite - Sanctuary wrote: »So for u to say something like that, is a generalization and makes you seem pretty selfish and petty.
Awww. Started off so well..0 -
The only group of people i know who do FB runs in an organized fashion (hm, that came out wrong - they are not the only organized group, just the only ones I know) ask for wine in FB39, but they do the mob kills first and then have the person run back and do the wine. That makes so much sense that I just assumed that was what everyone was doing. Are there really a lot of people advertising that they will help you with your FB who leave you having to run through it again? It seems like the way the community should deal with that is to post a list of them so they get a reputation for it. Of course, the way an individual should deal with it is to not use the tab(s) right at the entrance to any FB. Waiting until you get to each boss lets you make sure the FB is going right and it does not hurt anyone.
But, don't just assume that people will not help you with the other quests in an FB simply because they want you to bring wine.0 -
Rosewhite - Sanctuary wrote: »The problem I have with this is not all of us who ask for help with unwined fbs are idiots who don't know how to listen. I managed after several days to get my unwined fb39 done with a group from another faction. It was fast and quite easy, I got in a few hits and i got some coins which made me happy. I stayed in the back and when we got to a boss they knew I couldn't handle, they warned me and I listened. In fact, I let them keep the drops because hey, they were doing me a favor. So for u to say something like that, is a generalization and makes you seem pretty selfish and petty.
Selfish and petty? Wtf. I do what I do out of self preservation and experiance. If you knew how many FBs I've done that have failed because of morons getting me and the rest of my party killed you might understand my reasons. Out of all of the random FBs I have run 90% of them failed because of stupid people who don't listen or who worse yet, think they know better. So selfish and petty my ****...0 -
I always do upto fb59, unwined. Only takes 15-20mins, it's almost as fast as wined. I don't see the big deal.0
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When you're asking for wined or unwined FB runs, you need to understand who is doing who the favour.
Wine, first and foremost, is a time saver. Wine doesn't necessarily make it easier; it just removes the tedious mob-killing and lets the squad run straight to the boss, which is where the real challenge for the runner is. Most runners don't need wine for FB19-29 because if they're capable of killing the boss, they're capable of blowing through the mobs. It's more expensive to get wines for FB19-29 than it is to get through the dungeon itself; not to mention it's somewhat unreasonable to expect the average L19 player to have that many materials or money for the wine.
FB39 and onwards is different. The foes get harder, true, but the dungeons are much bigger and there are more foes. It can easily take hours to get through the dungeon unwined. For the runner, the payoff isn't worth it. That time could be used for grinding for more experience, or for doing faster FB runs.
That's the underlying purpose of people wanting to do your FBs. If you're asking for a wined run, that's quick and easy experience for the runners. Runners get nothing more for doing a wined run. That's why it's so hard to fine unwined runners for FB39+.
If you do want a wined run, it's best you find a group of friends or organise something within your faction. At best, you might want to request a partial unwined run to get the requisite mobs before going back to wine it.0 -
I gotta agree, all I ever see is wined runs, but you kinda cant blame them, because theyre probably just looking for exp, even though I have to agree with you in that you need the mobs, which kind of just defeats the purpose of doing the FB (what does that stand for anyway).
but yeah I got lucky and found a good run for my FB39, havent gotten to my next one yet ;o0 -
From my point of view, my Call of Duty tab quests are a reward that I can offer to other people to help me with my other quests in that dungeon. When I have those tabs, I can grant quests, and I get some choices in how I award my quests. And wine seems to be for recovering from "disaster struck when we were nearly done" problems, and for similar exceptional cases.
I have never used my own tabs to run my call of duty related quests "wined", and I do not plan on ever doing so.
I might change my mind, but I can think of a variety of other things I would rather do. (On the other hand, I do not think I have ever run my Call of Duty quests until several levels after I could get my tabs. I can be patient, occasionally.)
But, of course, if other people want to use wine, that is great, and everything. Different people enjoy different kinds of things.0 -
basherboy357 wrote: »FB (what does that stand for anyway).
Ignore whatever anyone tells you about it being an abbreviation for a Chinese word (possibly made up in the first version of PW) for dungeon. It definitely stands for Fu-Bar0 -
Bobncut - Sanctuary wrote: »Ignore whatever anyone tells you about it being an abbreviation for a Chinese word (possibly made up in the first version of PW) for dungeon. It definitely stands for Fu-Bar
I thought that FB stood for iron tablet (in chinese)?
(Sorry, you make joke, i sleepy. I sorry.)0 -
Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »From my point of view, my Call of Duty tab quests are a reward that I can offer to other people to help me with my other quests in that dungeon. When I have those tabs, I can grant quests, and I get some choices in how I award my quests. And wine seems to be for recovering from "disaster struck when we were nearly done" problems, and for similar exceptional cases.
I have never used my own tabs to run my call of duty related quests "wined", and I do not plan on ever doing so.
I might change my mind, but I can think of a variety of other things I would rather do. (On the other hand, I do not think I have ever run my Call of Duty quests until several levels after I could get my tabs. I can be patient, occasionally.)
But, of course, if other people want to use wine, that is great, and everything. Different people enjoy different kinds of things.
Actually, doing things wined just makes it a lot more simple, a faster run overall. I've run FB69 unwined twice....and if I recall correctly, it took me about 2 hours just to finish that FB. With wine, it takes under an hour, so it's a matter of time-saving measures. FB19 and 29 are usually not wined because it's extremely easy to run through the entire FB in under an hour, but as you get higher level, the FBs themselves take longer. I don't know about others, but I can't always sit at the computer for 2+ hours running 1 FB for someone, and be able to level on my own character a little bit.
Different strokes for different people, I'd say.
I know a quest you get in your 60s, the 202020 quest, will require you to restart the FB unwined a couple times, so by the time you're finished with the 202020 quest, you're more likely to go "**** it" and get wine for the FB itself, because you've already run part of that FB unwined two-three times already just to get the mobs you need. A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. -Robert Frost0 -
Eislynn - Sanctuary wrote: »Different strokes for different people, I'd say. I know a quest you get in your 60s, the 202020 quest, will require you to restart the FB unwined a couple times, so by the time you're finished with the 202020 quest, you're more likely to go "**** it" and get wine for the FB itself, because you've already run part of that FB unwined two-three times already just to get the mobs you need.
I totally agree with you about how different people like different things.
Personally, for example, I did not finish my level 49 spiritual cultivation until last night (and this does not matter yet, for any of my skills -- and, that took so long that I am temporarily behind where I would have been if I had been finishing other quests, instead).
Anyways, I do not do "call of duty dungeon" side quests until I get my call of duty tabs, and so far I have not had to reset any instances to complete them. And if I could not finish that side quest on one run through, should that not mean that I should try to help some friends do theirs, too?
[Also, I have no objection, in principle, to using wine. I just have an objection to using my tabs to help people if they will not also help me with my quests in that dungeon. Meanwhile, obtaining wine involves gathering materials and visiting Archosaur and all of that takes time.]0 -
*nod* I think the 202020 quest is required to do that before you can get your tabs, though. It's part of the Wraithhunter ploy, and he won't give you the two tabs for the other two bosses until you finish the quest chain which invovles 202020. So techinally, it's not really a "side quest", it's a quest you have to do in order to get the tabs for the last two bosses in that FB, and for some reason, there's not enough monsters to meet your 202020 quota in the FB, which then results in having to do that 2x unwined, up to 3x.A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. -Robert Frost0
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next time try the call to duty chat room. there is always somebody there at regular hours who can get a team together to do it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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