What Is Zhen?

LadyVivianne - Sanctuary
LadyVivianne - Sanctuary Posts: 42 Arc User
edited January 2009 in General Discussion
OK so I have been like on every board and could not find any solid information on Zhen. I am really curious as to know what Zhen is. Any and all info will be greatly appreciated. Thank you
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  • Arravis - Lost City
    Arravis - Lost City Posts: 197 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    I could be wrong, but I think the word Zhen comes from the Chinese version's name for the cleric's level 59 constant-aoe heal skill. Maybe, maybe not.

    What I DO know is that Zhen is currently a term used for pretty much any aoe that is consistent. The Cleric's bubbles won't stop until you tell it to stop; archer's barrage (though a bit glitched) and the mage's level 29 aoe skill are all called Zhens.

    There are two possible meanings when a person says "Zhen," and it's based on the situation.

    Two common cases:

    1) "cleric start zhen nao."
    There is a party trying to kill a boss, and the bosses starts to aoe everyone. If someone gives orders to "zhen" he/she means for someone to start their own aoe skill. In the case above, the cleric would most likely activate the blue bubble skill.

    2) "let's go zhen, I ned exp."
    In this case, the word "zhen" refers to an AOE party. It's basically set up like this:

    -Archer duels cleric, kills cleric with AOE to get AOE constant
    -Cleric starts blue bubble
    -Mages start AOE
    -Barbarians/Blademasters lure

    The barbarians and blademasters will simply bring a horde of mobs to the camp, which is where the clerics, archers, and mages have their aoes set up. This way, all the mobs will get hit simultaneously and you will get many more kills off of fewer skill usage (taking advantage of the fact that there is NO target limit on an aoe). As the lurers keep bringing more mobs, exp and drops will rack up. This is a FAST but EXPENSIVE way to level. It's only really possible once you reach level 59, which the level at which the archers and clerics get their main aoes. This is almost a mandatory practice for levels 80+ to level, unless you are beast at soloing and/or are a venomancer.

    To sum up: Zhen means AOE.
  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Zhening is AoE leveling. The word originates from the Chinese PW, in which it means 'continuous'.

    A zhen party consists of at least two (but preferably three) DDs (wiz or archer), at least one cleric and at least two lurers (barb, BM or light/heavy armour veno)

    The basic theory is that wizards or archers set up continuous damage in an area. The wizards use their continuous damage fire spell, while the archers use their rain of arrows thing. The clerics set up a blue ball between them. All the wizards, clerics and archers need a gold spirit charm in order to ensure that they can keep going.

    The lurer's job is to go around and collect mobs, and then bring them into the AoEs, where they die quickly. Usually there is a designated looter who picks up the items between waves.

    Each round of zhen lasts for an hour, in order to coincide with the wearing off of miji/xp scrolls/training esoterica.

    Thaaat's the gist.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • LadyVivianne - Sanctuary
    LadyVivianne - Sanctuary Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    OK thank you for the info I understand what Zhen is now but what does AOE mean?

    Thank You Again
  • TitTees_ - Sanctuary
    TitTees_ - Sanctuary Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Area of Effect my dear [:

    Normally AoE refers to skills that inflicts damage to multiple targets near each other.
  • Lahnora - Sanctuary
    Lahnora - Sanctuary Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    The skill says that it does not stop until ESC is pressed.
    Does this mean that those using their skills can sit down, "rest", and still have their skills going?
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Lahnora - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The skill says that it does not stop until ESC is pressed.
    Does this mean that those using their skills can sit down, "rest", and still have their skills going?

    Nope, you're never allowed to rest while a skill is going. So to rest you'd have to ESC out of the skill. But noone rests, thats why the charms are required.
  • Eislynn - Sanctuary
    Eislynn - Sanctuary Posts: 119 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Yup. It looks like you're stopping and starting again, but in reality, you're not stopping and starting. You're constantly going.
    A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. -Robert Frost
  • LadyVivianne - Sanctuary
    LadyVivianne - Sanctuary Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Thank You TitTees. So the AOE spell for my Wizard is Dragons Breath and what level does my level 39 Cleric get his AOE?
  • Klath - Sanctuary
    Klath - Sanctuary Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    The word originates from the Chinese PW, in which it means 'continuous'.
    Zhen is the name of clerics's regeneration aura on original chinese version.

    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/1447/
    (Retired from Perfect World)

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  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Its a term used by people that can't seem to get it through their heads that this is not the chinese version.
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  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Klath - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Zhen is the name of clerics's regeneration aura on original chinese version.

    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/1447/

    I think that's zen they're thinking of. As in.. zen meditation.

    Zhen might be part of the name of the blue bubble skill, but I'm pretty sure that in the basic language sense it means "continuous".

    And what's Zoe's problem? Is the 4 letter word too hard for her to handle? Does she suggest that everyone insists on calling it 'area of effect leveling', rather than zhen? People call it that because it's simple and easy.. for most people I guess. Zoe must be rather slow on the uptake.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    no shes just reasonably annoyed that this is the international version yet mosts the terms we use are from Chinese or Malay version and we could simple use english/american acronyms/names and more people would understand and fewer people would be confused like when people say HH over TT
  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    Well, a lot of the malay terms people use are simply because it's what a lot of people are used to. And most of them sound better, are easier to remember and make more sense.

    A coupla examples:
    Miji = Training esoterica
    Trumpet = Teleacoustic

    What the hell were they thinking of? Teleacoustics? Esoterica? Both sound utterly ****. Zoe can whine all she wants, people are gonna use the Malay and Chinese terms because they make more sense.

    ....And what should we call zhen, if not zhen? We could call it AoE leveling, but that's not very specific.. there's a whole lot of kinds of AoE leveling. Zhening is just one sort.

    So, yeah.. what should we call it if not zhening?
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.
  • silverkitty
    silverkitty Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    fuzzles wrote: »
    I think that's zen they're thinking of. As in.. zen meditation.
    no, it's very clear from the link you quoted that it's thinking of something different then zen meditation. according to that link, the closest translation of "zhen" would be "truth" (though it connotes more to the Chinese culture than "truth" connotes to Westerners... that's pretty common in language translation).
    Zhen might be part of the name of the blue bubble skill, but I'm pretty sure that in the basic language sense it means "continuous".
    I spent some time with several chinese/dictionary online dictionaries, but could find no evidence that continuous = zhen or vice versa.
    fuzzles wrote: »
    And most of them sound better, are easier to remember and make more sense.
    Miji = Training esoterica
    "Miji" is easier to remember and makes more sense than "xp scroll"? You're right that "training esoterica" is a terrible name, but no one calls it "training esoterica" OR "miji". they all call it "xp scroll" or just "scroll" (as in "I'd love to come to that TT, but I'm on a scroll, so it'll be 20 minutes").

    Just saying that's a bad example of "Malaysian server English names are better".

    "Holy Hall" versus "Twilight Temple" - neither is universally "better". Calling the Twilight Temple "HH" is mostly a way to make sure you confuse new players.

    I agree that there is not a particularly better term for zhenning coming to mind.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited January 2009
    How about zenning because of how much zen you spend to run the party? lol

    I have already seen people refer to it as a zen party in world chat the base is already there.
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