So... Am I supposed to be this fragile?

Light armor really early doesn't offer much benefit, as it says in my guide, you should "think about NOT STAT" at low levels.

But yes, all mages are horrifically squishy especially early. Get used to having a heirogram on early.

Pot and kite.
Key to leveling wizards at lower levels. Remember, you can outrun a gushed monster.

starting charm can get in quest which probably u already got, next ones u need buy from cash shop

Yeah, I didnt get a hiero until around lvl 65 lmao. What I did to solve the squishy issue was to attack mobs at farthest range possible. I started with a heavy hit and right after switched to gush. After gush I used another hit like stone rain or pyrogram and alternated to gush until the mob was dead. If all came out right the mob was dead before it could touch me. If the mob came close I just kited.

Yeah I've seen it happen too, where the wizard suddenly draws mobs in. Thats y barbs and warrs have skills that increse threat though... but they hardly use them....

Mohkano - Sanctuary wrote: »

I assume tanks get better at holding aggro as they increase in level?

I've drawn aggro from a 57 WB and a 40-something WF golem, so...

oo lol, in party once...i was told count 5 and throw a spell, at 5x i used to steal aggro from 74 WB.

Mohkano - Sanctuary wrote: »

I'm sorry, I find your post explaining threat a bit awkwardly worded.

Could you tell me the ideal way that I should cast to not draw the aggro of a neutral element boss monster assuming a WB tank?

Should I...

* Wait a few seconds, cast a powerful spell, wait a few more seconds, recast that powerful spell, and just repeat this? (sort of just powerful spikes with pauses)

* Chain together weaker spells (Like pyrogram and gush)

* Something else?

Sorry for the late response, havent been on this char much. I agree it was a bit awkward - let me find another way to put it.

Your damage as a wizard is very high and because of this reason, if you do not let the tank hit the foe long enough (to match your spell to come) then you will draw aggro after your first spell hits.

Say if a tanker hits for 500 average on a boss and you cast a spell as soon as you get in range for 2000. The boss will head for you and you will die most likely in 1 or 2 hits. However if you let the tanker hit it atleast 4 times (i.e 4x500 average) then you are safe to hit that boss with the same spell. If you go spell happy, i.e chain it with say gush for a 1.5k damage, chances are you will get aggro on this spell because the tanker can't keep up with your crazy damage.

It is safest to 1. cast a spell when the tanker has taken aggro for about 3 seconds and you cast every few seconds to make sure you never out damage the tank or 2. wait for 30seconds to a minute and that will guarantee that even if you go spell happy, you can't take aggro unless the battle goes on for more then 2minutes (I assume by this time you have out damaged the tanker and if you do not stop you're going to lay on the floor, something which wizards do best at). Always know how much damage your tank is doing so you can gauge how much damage to dish out. especially if the tanker is not a barb.

And of course, as a tanker they will need to be able to hold aggro (which is their job really). For example barbs have increase threat level skills, which makes aggro stick to the barb.


Your first two points are both valid, so it seems you have gotten somewhat of an idea. You can spike them at intervals or chain weaker spells, just make sure you don't out damage your tanker.

I find it cute when people who know nothing about barbs try to explain aggro and tanking.

Here's the low down for you ignorant folks out there:
Barbs hold aggro through flesh ream, not damage.

Basically, its up to the DD to watch the boss and the barb to see what the aggro level is like.

Basically, the best way to avoid stealing aggro is to let the barb and cleric(s) have a bit of time alone with the boss. Let the barb build up the aggro a bit. As long as the barb isnt horrendously unlucky and flesh ream misses the entire time.. you should be safe enough after that to go ape crapola on the boss until it dies...

Bear in mind that only applies to lowerish level DDing/tanking. At higher levels the DDs need to be a lot more careful about stealing aggro. But at that point most people are usually fairly competent and can work it out for themselves.

Relax. It doesn't look like he was targeting your post, Alpine.
No need to get defensive that quickly.

Besides, your post made perfect sense.

You may also want to join a faction and have them quest with you (especially a melee-based character) so that they can be the tank while you bombard the monsters with spells.