Light Armor Support Cleric? D:

While the int thing really does gimp your damage and your healing power, light armor is far from being bad at support or pvp. I am currently lvl 76 light armor ep, and no one has ever complained about my heals. I have a grand total of 3 vit statted (took 2 points out with a restat scroll) and I still have 2.7k hp because I have good equips. The downfall to being light armor is, you're easily taken out by mages, and higher level mobs tend to be magic based. The upside is, if the tank loses agro, dies, or if you pull something accidentally, you won't die like a full mag cleric would 80% of the time. This has gotten me many compliments on being a good support cleric simply because you can't heal or ress the tank if you are dead, and often times you are the only cleric in the party so if you die, you have to make the party wait for you to run back to wherever it was you died. Light armor also makes archers, bms, and barbs a lot easier to deal with pvp-wise.

I'm currently a full mag support cleric.
I truly wanted to go the light armor route, but once I found
that dex doesn't affect criticals on heals (or heal criticals do not exist)
I chose to go arcane.
If that changes, I would definitely go that route, for it would make light armor much more viable for a support cleric.
Especially in PvP.
But w/o healing crits, I think you give up too much.

wah ty SOOO much for the info~~!!>X3
b:victory
since reading this i decided to become a LA cleric-^^-

but one problem..><''
b:surrender

it might jst be mi but at lvl 19--->>
with no added points into VIT...~~
its realli hard to solo those longhorned carapests west of Plume..~~
i need to kill 30 of them from a quest i got from the priest...-^^-

but ive only killed 5 of them nd ive died 3 times already~~!!TT__TTb:cry
should i try and find a party~?o.o'
and can anyone pls tell mi if this is gonna get harder/easier/stay the same as i lvl up~~??o.o''
any input would be much MUCH appreciated~~!!b:laugh

i c i c~~!!
ty so much~~!!-^0^-
im gonna have another go at em since im lvl 22 nw-^^-
(exp and spirit looks so tempting)
wish mi luck~~!!^__^

Hm_volluto - Lost City wrote: »

Light Armor Cleric = Fail vs Robe Cleric

Why?
- Lower Hp
- No use for Dex
- Less Resistance to Mag
- Lower Dmg
- Plume Shell takes care of your phy def for most cases.
- You still lose to BM/WBs if they stun and play smart

Light Armor is ideal for archers, different BM builds (e.g. fist), venos until 90, and mages.

Not really... I was a robe cleric (full int) till lvl 80 when I went light, so I have some experience with both types. I have to say FULL INT CLERICS ROCK FOR PvE but they are very hard to play well for PvP. I restated at 80 so that I could survive longer in TW and I don't regret it one bit. (also getting a lvl 80 gold set is MILLIONS cheaper going light as compared to robe) Now to respond to this post point by point:

1. I have 3.6k hp unbuffed 4.7k with buff... This is higher than full int robe clerics, though it was expensive (refine+2 and 3 lvl 5 HP stones in all EQ)

2. Dex is useful but only for crits... Is it really worth it to go light for an extra 4% crit at my lvl? no, but that is not the only reason to go light.

3. yes I gave up 6% magic def to gain 30% p def, thats a worthwhile trade to me. Remember def isn't about the number you see but the % reduced you see when you mouse over it. I lost 2k in m def # but only lost 6% dmg reduce.

4. The lower damage SUCKS for PvE. This is why I miss my full int EP a bit, grinding takes much much longer... But for PvP almost no difference. Remember PvP damage and PvE damage are not the same.

5. Plume shell is AWESOME if you remember to use it. However having the extra p def keeps you from getting one shotted if surprised...

6. If you are evenly matched and another player plays smarter than you you will lose regardless...

Now to be honest I plan on restating to full con robe at lvl 90, the set bonuses are too good to pass up. But for now LA is perfect for me.

For one thing, you're looking at LA clerics' performance in PvP as well as PvE. Most of the replies to this thread are comparing LA clerics with full int clerics. Full int is not a viable build for PvP, since if you're fighting anyone halfway decent, they'll be focusing you first. Full int doesn't have the survivability to do very much in mass PvP and TW.

Another thing... looking at numbers, stats, percentages, LA does seem quite weak in comparison to robes. However, in real scenarios, you need the pdef from LA more than the mdef you're sacrificing. Personally, I almost never get attacked by wizards or actual venos in TW -- only archers and pheonixes, the occasional blademaster. If you're really worried about mdef, buy a cheap robe set (I use rank gear) and carry it around in your inventory so you can switch out if you're fighting a lot of mages.

Your heal power will not be any different from a vit cleric's. Your stats should be 1 str, 1 agi, 3 magic per level. A vit cleric is probably going to be 2 vit, 3 magic. Against a full int cleric though, yes, the heal power will be noticeable. You are quite capable of healing well, still, unless you're using a ridiculous tank or you're just bad.

I have been thinking about restatting to vit robes, considering I do have plume shell and the HP is quite sexy. I heard LA gets better after 90 though, with the insane vit bonus the HH90 green set gives. ;o

complexx wrote: »

Shaye's a amazing EP, She does a amazing job when we aoe.

I pull so much hate though!

I think I need more practice...eh? Eh?! ;D You know what that means!

For PvE full int is great! But for PvP it is not imo. I say you redo thta analysis and pretend it is an archer shooting you with crit. make the numbers more like archer hits 3-4.5k. That is where the 50% reduce gets more important, PvP not PvE.

you are lv19, go full int or vit, cause you wont be pking or doing any TW so soon my m8 and you will want to lv up as fast as you can, later on buy restats scrolls and go LA

This cleric is full support and Light Armor, because I 2-box him.

I cannot tell you how many times being LA with his buffs have saved his **** before I have noticed him being beat on and could get back to him in time.

(why isn't there a 'self-target' key...)

Also, because all his points are spent in support, very little is on DDs, so the LA build does offer that crit when he does DD every so often (which isn't often at all, considering he would be debuffing physiclal resist before using DD...another good reason to be LA)