Etherblade server launching 2009

RayVer - Lost City
RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
edited December 2008 in General Discussion
I think the Etherblade server should launch in January of 2009. This would be a great way to start the new year for Perfect World International.

Regardless if PVP or PVE vote if you want the etherblade server to come online in 2009

I have loads of friends that are waiting anxously for this server to come out. A lot of people from the PVE server don't want to start on the Lost City PVP server because of the situation over there. There's people breaking lvl 90 on Lost City and loads of 80s... this really discourages people from starting on there besides all the other reasons (a lot to do with TW alone).

I myself have already saved up $200 to deposit in zhen the day the new server comes out. I know tons of people that stopped deposting zhen in hopes for doing it when the new server comes. I really hope it does soon. I know the admins and GMs are saying whenever Lost City reaches maximum capacity but if you ask me, and several hundred people - it's about time the new server comes out.

So please please PWI bring out this server early 2009! Not only would it be a great gift to the PWI community but I would expect you guys to make loads of money from us!
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  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Here we go again....

    They will open a new server when the population on the existing servers will make it necessary. And/Or when the Powers in charges of PWE will deems it necessary.

    The next server may very well be again a PvE one, not a PvP one, if the PvE population on the two existing ones once again exceed the PvP one....
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  • chinahman
    chinahman Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    naaah too early for new server.
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    well dont you think people join the PVE server because they see two PVE and only one PVP?? I know when I first came on here, and was looking at the servers I started with the PVE because I saw that there were twice as many and figured it was more popular so I chose it.
  • Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear
    Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    well dont you think people join the PVE server because they see two PVE and only one PVP??

    I think it's very safe to assume that most people know the difference between PvE and PvP servers and actually chose them because they go where they find their prefered style of gameplay. Or do you really think the ~75% of the PW population that went to a PvE server did so because they can't properly read?

    Anyway - do we REALLY have to open a "new server" thread every two days? They said over and over and over and over again that a new PK server isn't going to happen anytime soon, if at all. The demand just doesn't warrant it, since even the existing PK server is less populated than both PvE ones.
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  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    This isn't another random thread asking when the server will come out. This is a thread asking for it to come out in Jan of 2009 to start off the new year. I already know what the admins and GMs have been saying - I stated that in my first post.

    And its not a matter of reading or not reading. When me and my friend (that told me about this game) joined the game we both chose the PVE because there were simply more servers. I dont think its irrational to do that. After talking to people I then moved to the pvp server.
  • Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear
    Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    This isn't another random thread asking when the server will come out. This is a thread asking for it to come out in Jan of 2009 to start off the new year.

    It's also not the first poll with that content, only the date changes... Just use the search function and see for yourself. ;)
    And its not a matter of reading or not reading. When me and my friend (that told me about this game) joined the game we both chose the PVE because there were simply more servers. I dont think its irrational to do that. After talking to people I then moved to the pvp server.

    No offense, but I think that's fairly irrational even, because your decision led to you being on a server where you obviously didn't want to be. ;)

    Let me rephrase my words then: The vast, vast, vast majority of people roll on PvE (or PK) servers because that's where they want to be (at least nobody stays for long otherwise, even you didn't, as you said yourself). And the majority of PW players seems to prefer PvE servers. *shrug* How about just accepting the obvious?
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  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    My next pondering is how much money does the pvp server rack up against the pve servers. Regardless of population (theres a big difference between the players in the pvp server and the pve server). Maybe those on the PVE server wouldn't understand that.
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    My next pondering is how much money does the pvp server rack up against the pve servers.

    I'm pretty sure the Powers of PWE are very aware of that.

    And opening a second PvE server 3 weeks after they initially went Open Beta is a clear indication were most of the money is coming from.

    Otherwise, we would not even have one PvE server, and 2 or 3 PvP ones...

    They will not open a new one if they don't think it will be profitable monetary wise. And it has been stated many time that a new PvP server is not planned in the immediate future. But then, their decision may be changed anytime. Wait and see....
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  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    well hopefully my wishes (and my friends) come true and this server comes out soon as a pvp server. It seems like everytime I read threads regarding to etherblade server on here it's people asking for it to be pvp as well.

    for now i'll just cross my fingers and hope for the best.
  • Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear
    Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    Maybe those on the PVE server wouldn't understand that.

    I know, we're usually too stupid for things like that.
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    My next pondering is how much money does the pvp server rack up against the pve servers. Regardless of population (theres a big difference between the players in the pvp server and the pve server).

    You're still assuming that a new server would sort of "generate" demand for a PvP server. Which is a funny assumption to make, given there is a non-full PvP server already there for people to join. So even if you're right in that a PK player is spending more cash than the average PvE player, it still doesn't create any need for a new server, if the old one isn't even nearly full.

    And to finally sink your point: If you were right, and it would make such a complete economic sense to create that server - why do you think that PWI didn't already set it up then? In contrast to you and me they DO have the accurate sales figures from both the PvE and the PK crowd. Do you really think they hate money that much that they wouldn't take it if offered a good chance to generate some additional income?

    The thing that my limited PvEer's brain still can't really grasp is why people who are already on LC want another PvP server so badly (again, given the fact that the existing one is far from being full)? What does it personally give you? Oh wait, let me guess: You want to re-roll on the new one, so you can be the first high levels there, making you able to stomp on the newer players rolling there after you - like you're now getting stomped by the L80s on LC? I guess that must be it, there is honestly no other explanation for it... after all PK is only fun if you can shoot weaker players in the back... b:chuckle
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  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    you dont seem to understand do you? It's not that there isn't space in the current server, its just due to the situation in there people don't WANT to join that server but don't want to go on PVE as well.

    and no none of the lvls 80s "stomp" on me and im not looking to be on top of any server to stomp on lower players. Thats not the point here. We just want to start on a new server that doesnt have territores ran by 3 "warlord" factions. I'm not sure how it is on the PVE server, but basically on the pvp server 3 factions own all the land and no one is a match for them. they are getting so much money per territory that even if another faction catches up to them (in levels) they won't have the funds to properly do it, let alone the gear....and from what I hear half of them are players from the malaysian servers and they are all power leveling their accounts to 100+. So basically we're looking for a fresh start on a server not over populated by lvl 90-100s that came from the malaysian server to pwi. With another pvp server those people won't move over because they will continue leveling their accounts to what they had on the malaysian server and I've heard this from several people.

    I just want a new server to have some fun with TW while still enjoying the pvp scene. The only reason I said the PVE people wouldn't understand is because i'm assuming they are not dealing with the same situation as us over here on LC.
  • Blancheneige - Heavens Tear
    Blancheneige - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,494 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    The problem is that if they open a new PvP server, more than half the players population on this new server would be lower level players from Lost City migrating there.

    So that would leave Lost city even less viable than it is now with fewer players, and would not make the new one viable either, since the number of players on Lost City don,t warrant for a new one at the moment. It would only more or less divide the PvP population in half on each server, without bringing in much many more new players.

    As I see it, the only way they could open a new pvp server would be if there would be a risk of over population on the existing one. And all signs point currently that it's far from being the case at the moment.

    You want a new PvP server? Bring more players to the current one. I really think it's the only way.
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  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    to add to my point.. there may also be a loss of players on the pvp server from people quiting the game due to seeing how they have little to no chance in competing with these "warlords" i'm talking about. I wouldn't say thats the biggest reason why LC has fewer players but atleast at the moment I think it's a contributing factor. I know of several people contemplating right now leaving just because of this issue but are willing to stay if a new server comes out.

    Now to reference another game which I don't like to reference (since I like this game so much better) - World of Warcraft has 112 PvP servers and 108 PVE servers. As you see its rather split in the middle. Granted they have millions of players but this gives you a clear picture that the gaming community does like pvp playing. Theres a lot of people from those games slowly making their way to PWI, with myself being one of them.
  • cryucry
    cryucry Posts: 141 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    Thats not the point here. We just want to start on a new server that doesnt have territores ran by 3 "warlord" factions. I'm not sure how it is on the PVE server, but basically on the pvp server 3 factions own all the land and no one is a match for them. they are getting so much money per territory that even if another faction catches up to them (in levels) they won't have the funds to properly do it, let alone the gear....and from what I hear half of them are players from the malaysian servers and they are all power leveling their accounts to 100+. So basically we're looking for a fresh start on a server not over populated by lvl 90-100s that came from the malaysian server to pwi. With another pvp server those people won't move over because they will continue leveling their accounts to what they had on the malaysian server and I've heard this from several people.

    ROFL. So you're complaining because the top guilds are too powerful, and that they're hardcore determined levelers.

    What makes you think a new PVP server won't result in the same dynamic? Power will consolidate again, a few strong guilds will emerge once more to dominate, and people with your same flawed logic will whine again for a new server. The cycle repeats.

    The ONLY difference, is that you're now awarded an opportunity to be the ones at the top of the ladder, an opportunity that you missed because you either started out late, didn't grind enough or didn't have the same knowledge.

    Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Oh wait, let me guess: You want to re-roll on the new one, so you can be the first high levels there, making you able to stomp on the newer players rolling there after you - like you're now getting stomped by the L80s on LC?

    +1 to this. Your selfish proposal has been exposed for what it really is.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    cryucry wrote: »
    ROFL. So you're complaining because the top guilds are too powerful, and that they're hardcore determined levelers.

    What makes you think a new PVP server won't result in the same dynamic? Power will consolidate again, a few strong guilds will emerge once more to dominate, and people with your same flawed logic will whine again for a new server. The cycle repeats. The ONLY difference, is that you're now awarded an opportunity to be the ones at the top of the ladder, an opportunity that you missed because you either started out late, didn't grind enough or didn't have the same knowledge.

    if i were to bother writing a reply it would be something like this^ etherblade will just be lost city castaways trying to become the people they hated
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    wow i love how you interpret my intentions for all this as "selfish". I don't care about being the top on the server - I already stated that in a previous post so please read before replying. You guys are seeing all this wrong. I'm not pissed off from high lvls killing me (because it doesnt happen), I'm not pissed off because there are tons of people higher than me (some of my friends are lvl 70+ and they want a new server too) - so please stop making comments on that because its simply NOT my reason for wanting a new server. You go and make it seem that way by saying stuff like that and quoting my post while highlighting "lvl90-100" when I was talking about the Malysian version of this game - NOT pwi.

    I just want to have fun in TW and in PVP... much like how the TW is in the PVE server (i logged in to check). I have nothing against the top 3 factions in LC. They have done a great job at getting there, but the bottom line is I doubt a new server would quickly turn into what the current one has become because all those experienced players from the malaysian version are already on lost city.

    I'm not blaming them for how it has become but it's just simply the FACT on LC.
  • InstantMoney - Heavens Tear
    InstantMoney - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    We just want to start on a new server that doesnt have territores ran by 3 "warlord" factions. I'm not sure how it is on the PVE server, but basically on the pvp server 3 factions own all the land and no one is a match for them.

    Your logic is flawed. It doesn't matter what server you are on, the top guilds are always going to own the vast majority of land. On HT there are only 4 guilds that own land. (You can't count the 5th because Radiance is leasing that land to them for now)lol. There is a very good possibility that the next server isn't going to be PvP. The populations of the current PvE/PvP servers will most likely dictate which type of server is opened next.
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    I just want to have fun in TW and in PVP

    You can do both without own land. Just attack one of the current land owners.

    The posters before me have already figured out what is really motivating you.
    Enough said.
    "One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets."
    Ali G
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    I just logged in to one of the PVE servers and saw something on the territory map I've never seen before... COLORS

    Why? Because multiple factions are doing multiple battles because THEY CAN.

    stop with the whole "selfish" intentions and all the nonsense. You guys are totally taking this in the wrong direction.
  • InstantMoney - Heavens Tear
    InstantMoney - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    lol 4 factions own land in HT. 3 own land in LC. Whats the difference?
    "One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets."
    Ali G
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    I just logged in to one of the PVE servers and saw something on the territory map I've never seen before... COLORS

    Why? Because multiple factions are doing multiple battles because THEY CAN.

    I think that's because there are no consequences for actions in TW seeing as you cant really KOS a guild on a PVE server...
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    well maybe it was the other pve server i logged in to but there were far more than 4. They have the option of going to either server...that doesnt exist with one pvp server.
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Personally i think there should be a cap on the amount of lands you can own. What the number should be? I don't know but that's just how it is.

    I even know of a level 80+ considering to start on a new pvp server IF it comes out soon. It's really not about this whole higher levels factor like you guys put it. The only reason I brought this up on the forum is because I have been talking to over 10 people for the last 2 weeks about this whole thing - most of them have a much higher level than me.
  • InstantMoney - Heavens Tear
    InstantMoney - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    RayVer - Lost City wrote: »
    well maybe it was the other pve server i logged in to but there were far more than 4.

    And with time (like in the other 2 servers) there will be a few strong guilds that own all the land. Santuary is the newst server. It will take time, but it will look like the other 2 sever's TW map eventually.

    If you can't enjoy and have fun on your current server, you won't be able to on a new server.
    "One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets."
    Ali G
  • Cheaper - Heavens Tear
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    he wants a PvP server with no people who played other versions of pw. that's all hes asking for.
    omg im posting stuff.
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Yes that is possible, but not definitive. You have to understand a lot of players from other versions of this game came on to the first two initial servers and had an upper advantage. As new servers come out this becomes less and less of a problem but by having 3 PVE servers and 1 PVP server I think there will be the possibility of more harm than good - especially with knowing how other games try to balance both types. Maybe all the pvp players havn't caught up to this game yet but it will happen at some point and if they start coming over here and seeing 3 PVE servers and 1 PVP server I don't see how this game will come to be known as a good PVP game.
  • InstantMoney - Heavens Tear
    InstantMoney - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    he wants a PvP server with no people who played other versions of pw. that's all hes asking for.


    Is that all......

    Will there be a 200 question screening process to get into "his" server?
    "One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets."
    Ali G
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    he wants a PvP server with no people who played other versions of pw. that's all hes asking for.

    nope not at all..there will always be players from other versions regardless of how new or old the server is but the mass majority that were going to start this game again with this version - already did.
  • InstantMoney - Heavens Tear
    InstantMoney - Heavens Tear Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    The problem is that there isn't a current need for another server. PvP or PvE.

    Problem #2:
    People are tired of seeing this topic in a new thread everyday. It's pointless to create a thread everyday on this topic. Next time use the search tool and add your post to one of the MANY threads on this topic.
    "One time when me was high, me sold me car for like 24 chicken McNuggets."
    Ali G
  • RayVer - Lost City
    RayVer - Lost City Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    hey i've seen the posts... no need to bring back an old post. Especially since they dont have ANY of the arguments I've put up here, yet alone a poll.

    Also, if there isn't a need at the moment thats fine. I just put out the jan 2009 for a new year twist on pwi. In all honestly the people i've been talking to figured it would be some months before it happened.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Just remember that overtime there will always be only a couple dominant guilds. No way will any guild in any of these servers will ever become a warlord because there is no possible way. Warlord was strong because they could fake bid. If the biggest guild in the server faced 3 large factor guilds at the same time nothing will save them from losing a land from time to time. Also remember that TW hasn't really started on lost city yet. The server is still building and alliances are being make/broke.
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