Classes and Drop Rates

finally someone come up with an idea i been having same thought as.

Yes, I ALSO noticed that the one who do the most damage gets the rare drops or most drops...

having this thought, i decided to keep all the sparks to myself instead of "lending" to barbs to keep hate... i rather use it to do more damage and in turn get some drops, instead of being total supportive... and i'm also more relactant to help do unwined fb39 anymore. cause i will be healing my pet (pet tank boss) and not do the maximum damage i should be doing... =X

Personally, i think that PWI missed the fairest and most useful loot distribution option. Which would be set in order meaning everyone would get a item in a orderly fashion making sure nobody would be left out from drops.

Celestite - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally, i think that PWI missed the fairest and most useful loot distribution option. Which would be set in order meaning everyone would get a item in a orderly fashion making sure nobody would be left out from drops.

drop counting makes this soo easy to exploit, especially since there are ranged and close up classes.

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

drop counting makes this soo easy to exploit, especially since there are ranged and close up classes.

It's not a lot of extra coding to make it random, but keep a counter for each party member so nobody gets more than 2 drops ahead (or behind) of anyone else. So the distribution is random, but if someone pulls 2 drops ahead of anyone else, they have no chance of getting the next drop. If someone falls 2 behind of everyone else, they must get the next drop. When you add a new party member, set their counter at the average of the other party members'.

You could even get really fancy and weight each person's probability of getting a drop according to how many they've gotten so far. So if you're 2 drops ahead of everyone else, your chance for a drop is not zero, but it's less than everyone else's. If you're 3 drops ahead, your chance is even smaller. If you're 2 drops behind it's higher than everyone else's. etc.

IMHO the loot distribution probably really is random. But when you get millions of people playing a game, just by pure chance alone some of those random distributions will have results that appear very un-random.

I can say it has nothing to do with damage delt or weather your tanking. Having taken people through FB19 solo and me killing everything I walk away with 2-5K in coin and loot combined getting almost 0 drops. I'm not sure how "random" is calculated but it always seems to go in others favor when I party with them.

As a veno I very rarely get drops from TT also. Even tho my pet probably does a large chunk of total damage I usually get nothing from bosses.

Unfortunately TT is just weird with its drops, you shouldn't even enter TT with a party of selfish ppl. The only easy solution is to see to it that drops are divided fairly by the party.

It's hard to tell, really - because obviously we all tend to immediately switch on the "everyone except me gets the good stuff" mode, whenever our party mates get those 3*** and molds. However, as far as I can tell, loot distribution is never truly random in any RPG. There is always more stuff being factored it. But except we'd start to approach this in a scientific fashion (read: with s a spreadsheet), we won't be able to tell for sure.

I am a support Cleric who usually doesn't use many damage skills when in a group. My personal experience: I never got any mold, ever. I had exactly one 3*** item drop for me, ever. All my TT runs done in a group (I'd say around 25 of them) yielded me 3 Edges and 1 Drum, in total. Two of those Edges I got in two consecutive runs when I was NOT supporting for a change, but playing with an all Veno team who didn't need much of my healing. So I did add to the damage in those runs....

So if you ask me if damage output is a factor, I'd clearly say yes, but as I said above, it's hardly a proof in scientific sense.

In regards to the initial post, I'm in total agreement. The so called random drops for Zhen's, FB's, etc., is pitiful for this cleric. Mind you I did not say all, I said for me. I set my new gold mana charm and spam the tank, and whomever else whose HP is dropping like a rocket...I've been on numerous runs, and if not for certain friends of mine being kind enough to share, I'd have several venom to sell...woo, now that makes it all worth while. I can surely run out and purchase a new mana charm with that...
Now here's a real kicker, You're a lvl 62 cleric, you're doing FB51, and your main job is to do what? Cover the Tank? Well read on if you will.

Scenario:b:chuckle

Your squad is halfway through the dungeon, the cleric is behind the tank, not to far, just enough space so the tank can fight, cleric can cover and hopefully not die.
In the distance, the cleric sees the deadly "scrunchkin 2live crew members", (Dustwraiths) the battle begins.

While the cleric is spamming the tank, he/she notice's the tab holder's HP begins to drop rapidly, and to make matters worse, the tab holder has now ran past the tank, and right into another batch of the munchkin 2live crew.
"OMG!!" someone shouts, "What the hell is goin on" says another," Cover the tab holder", someone screams.

As the chaos begins to unfold, the cleric continues to spam life around the tank who is still fighting several munchkin 2Live crew members.
All of a sudden the tank turns, and moves with the quickness to try and save the tab holder, and while spamming ironheart on the tank, the cleric is automatically dragged along with the tank and the aggro'd mob.

The ever faithful until the end cleric, quickly clicks on the tab holder's rapidly dwindling red line.
Clicky Click Click, the cleric spams life to the tab holder, and then back to the tank as fast as the flap of an angel's wings.
The cleric then proceeds without haste to cover all those whose red lines are suffering with that dreaded disease called dropsy. Thus saving each and everyone in the squad.
At the end of the final battle, and the booty is dispersed randomly, the lone cleric watches the little window that shows what rewards he/she will receive.
As the names and *** item drops roll by, the cleric sees their reward.
" You Got 1 Large Health Potion*.

b:chuckle I have to laugh just to keep from cryin b:chuckle D

i have found that in general when i am above ground just me and my partner grinding or whatever we get fairly even drops (he's a veno and myself a cleric) though alot of times its me me me me him him him me him for how the drops go

in dungeons it does seem to be less fair though i have gotten drops now and again (few 3* which always go to tab holders anyways... ) i nearly always come out in teh negative when i do TT or FBs cost wise.
FBs you can excuse heck your there for rep and xp..
TT the xp is **** for the time, no rep, and you waste a mp charm worse then zhening you sit for hours without breaks unless the party as a whole stops you spam the same skill over and over and over and hope you dont get over zealous DD who steal agro all the time. then you walk away with a few DQ drops, a few skulls.. maybe a mirage... yay good waste of 2 hours .. b:angry

Clerics sometimes out of range to receive drops after bosses kill. They stand at the max range sometimes to heal the tank. Try moving a little closer as the boss dies? Bet you get better drops. :P

It is the truth the cleric always got the drops. Unfortuanetly for you though I play on Sanctuary.

Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Maybe it's a secret "moderators never get drops, ever" feature... b:chuckle

Lol! That happened already before I ever was one. Though I must admit I always do my own runs with the same group and the same clerics...