Why archer and not Blade Master?

Last time i checked, people was saying that Archer is the Best class for PvP. Tho im not 100% .. you can always logon to Lost server and ask around or go watch some fight b:pleased

Anyway, i got both and i like Archer more cause you get hit less and that means less to repair
And you do way more dmg lol

i llove to fly thats why archer over blademaster

1) I Just found Blademaster incredibly boring. Archer, I found very fun. Not much of a dillema choosing there. :x

2) I can't really speak about this...I don't PVP.

Archers = Best PVP Class "Needs to have nice equips and high lvl"

BladeMasters = Best All Around Class "it takes time to be one though"

archer is the best for pk, for pvp every class has a chance to win

BM have trouble killing archers as although they deal decent damage they dont hit too often (if u have fairly high dex) and with our lightning skills archers can wipe out chunks of their hp. For example with a crit i can do 3/4 a BM hp and even one shot low hp ones in my level range and BM have trouble dealing enough damage quick enough to kill me.

HOWEVER if you are in the lost city server you will know most BM have XS (a lv 70 gold berserk axe) so they can do some big damage too. One hit me 2.5k b:shocked So mostly EA will beat BM but dependant on gears and how skilled (and lucky with XS) the player is BM can win.

Note: I have 2.9k hp atm

I'm a pure dex archer, and the skills I focus on are poison/bleed skill, high dmg skills, and the most useful Knockback shot. Depending on the combo I make, the target usually dies even before it gets to me. So I prefer the archer cause the targets drop dead without even touching me. (although I do have a problem with ranged and magic mobs, because they also cast from a distance and I get hit often)

EA against BM, that usually depends on the gear and skill of the player. If only knockback shot works on players, then archers would surely win

ros3 wrote: »

i am lvl 80 BM Xuesha 6.3k hp 1900 acuracy. i easy kill EA and ea dont ever do damage, i get like 600-700/hit from a EA lvl 80. somthins with Drake bash if i berserk EA is 1 hit xD they easy poor class b:laugh they need stuns and i got 3 xD they hit 1 time and died. In pk EA is good but Light Venomancer(wf) pown all.............BM best for Pvp:laughEA for PKb:cute

lies b:laugh

pabling wrote: »

EA's power only shows up at late lvl's 80+ (or lets say 70+)
why, becuase that's the time the EA's crit rate is intense that it can do 4 consequtive crit at 1 time....

that's why some says we can kill mage in 1 hit or even a cleric...

BM's power shows up when they got their roar, that roar when max is almost a perfect stun since it doesnt have a chance to miss...only a huge % of stun rate (meaning u got the goddess luck if it misses)...after that, BM can do sever dmg even b4 ea lost the stun (well, lets say it is death ;p).

yet, at the later lvl of EA, stun will not work anymore on them since they will have a skill which makes them immune to any movement debuff. meaning roar will be a squeak (jking)...

and btw, archers are not the best PvP class in the game, that title goes to veno, why? try to pvp a lvl 70+ veno and see for urself (ur own dmg will kill u, freaking debuffs, godam pets)...well we can be the 2nd ^^ but we are first in PK anyways xD

Veno? Nope. My L70 Blademaster can trample an L74 Venomancer easily before the Veno and her pet can do a thing. This is how I fight:
- I always start fight in a range of about 15 meters, for the sake of fairness
- Tiger Leap, I got close to her.
- As soon as her magic hits, I do Alter Narrow Physical. This will greatly negate the reflect damage as my def become ~12000
- Roar of the Pride. 6 seconds of stun to her AND her pet
- The Veno is at my mercy b:laugh

Archers do well on PvP, but remember, the Roar of the Pride is MAGIC attack, which renders Archer's evasion useless. Sure they have an anti-status buff, but so does Blademaster. Also Archers have a long cast time for the Lighting Strike, in which I always able to apply Alter Marrow Magical. The ways Archers have higher odds against Blademaster is:
1. Not fighting Spear and Sword type (Axe type is their prey^^)
2. Aerial fight (Blademaster sucks at this, lol)
3. Run run run
4. Pray the Blademaster doesn't do Diamond Sutra

Despite all this, it requires a skilled Blademaster as said by Tomiko ("It takes time to be one") to become a true PvP type. So yeah, as Archer inherently have nice tactical skills (stun, stop, Lightning Strike) to utilize, you most likely have higher odds against a Blademaster. b:victory

Envy - Lost City wrote: »

um

BM is only good for leveling and is unneeded in things like HH, FB, ect ect

Archers are needed for HH & can PK

if an archer is at full vigor, fully buffed, and so is the BM, the BM stands virtually no chance in pvp.

Well... I assume you haven't fight a skilled Blademaster^^ Blademaster and Archer have the same odds on fighting on a duel. On PK, the Archer only win on surprise attack, that is if the BM does not run away, which is a common option if they cannot locate the archer somewhere on the ground.

I also think you haven't met a PvP Spear. They rarely miss archers and hit really hard, compared to Archer's HP.

Serjah - Heavens Tear wrote: »

archers should win against BMs if they are roughly the same lvl

BMs low mdef, lower hp than barbs = easy win if ur equips are good enough

Nope. Still don't make a guarantee against a skilled BM. Try not to fight an Axe type, but a Sword or Spear type and feel the difference.

Remember, archer winds up every time they do their Lightning Strike and a BM can counter that with their Alter Marrow. Of course... that applies only to a skilled BM b:pleased

to tell, a decent skilled BM that can wield their marrows in a perfect timing is I can say good, and to be in a speared BM is a bit of trouble for EA's dodge rate....and got some jumpy jumpy skills...

and if we look more in BM's skills, they got a skill which revives their HP, and also an anti movement debuff skill which last for 15 sec...and a magical stun with high success rate....with all this being used by BM in a pvp, there is really a high chance of defeating even an EA....but still.....

1st, marrow got a negative side effect, and its a huge thing regarding the dmg taken....specially when the marrow is at max...

like a decrease in phydef of 80% if u use a magical with 80% magical boost def..and vise versa...


ill put a pvp scenario here that the BM already used will of bodhivista..EA used its wing of grace

(battle w/o any rules)


basically, BM's do timing on using marrow (when they see EA doing its spin dance) they use magical in a flash, making a good 1.5k dmg to only 600-700...and at that situation, EA rly cant outrun a BM with 10m per sec speed, cant stun, slow, etc...well...EA got a thing called wing shield that can stand in 1-2 hits of BM's skill (to tell a spear BM can hit us in 3 out of 6 unleased skills), rly, an archer with good strategy will try to use a phyatk, but of course fly first....with that, a norm 400 dmg to BM can be in 600-700 with only norm atks (BM's at magical marrow atm) and devastating 1k+ crits, if BM's tried to marrow physical...then that is their end...lol with their magical debuff.....2-3 hit of magical skill lmao..even a sutra wont be a much help..since EA can kill them in 4 sec.

if u put a rule of no flying....btw i am implying this to duels....then that is the situation where EA will be in a bit of situation.....even a phyatk on bm wont hurt them that much since u got a half dmg reduction (again, u cant outrun a Bm)...and thats the point where u should relly rely on ur evasion....aside that goodluck on facing breath to breath a BM...

in TW, EA can pwn BM since first they are range and hard to know where they are atking....this also implys in PK....

Sleipial - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh,.. and you forgot the BM's stun

didn't i tell in the scenario that EA also used wing of grace....

on that buff, they are also unstunable, unslowable, etc....

so pretty much the magical stun wont even be a bother to EA...

about that skill compilation stun > aim low > metal debuf > lighting > aoe metal, hmmm i can say its a good thing to do if ur facing a noob BM ;p...cause normally, good BM handler always use bodhivista in whichever fight they were in ^.~ b:chuckle