Why spend time to solo TT?

Sometimes it'll give you ****, like 3 mirages in a run and no mats.
Sometimes it'll give you a sweet amount of mats

Most I've got from a solo HH run was 2 chin's edge, 1 mirage and 2 drums
edges sold for 150k ea
mirage sold for 40k
drums sold for 150k ea
That's 640k (sadly, it doesnt happen too often).
Yeah, you're missing a lot.

All the solo mode drops usually go to 1 player.
If you do squad mode, you'll split the profit between 5~6.

swgs wrote: »

I have checked TT info. There are only 2 bosses in 1-1, one boss has 43% chance to drop mirage celestone, one 33% chance to drop broken drum. let's say they all have 100% drop rate, then you will get 1 mirage and 1 broken drum each run. the on going price for mirage on LC is 38K, I do not know the price for broken drum, I assume it does not worth more the mirage celestone maybe much less. You get at most 80K in drop each run, but you need 20 midgrade mats to make the substance which may cost you around 60K. so each solo run will make 20k at best, most of the time will be at lose. Am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing something. Each boss has a 100% chance to drop 3 items, not 1.

Plus, the bosses that have a 33% chance to drop stuff are in squad mode, so your original post appears to be confusing solo mode with squad.
One boss has a 16.7% chance to drop edges, one has a 16.7% chance to drop drums, both are used in different tt60 weapons. Remember too, that is 16.7% chance per drop slot, not 16.7% per kill)

When you do the math, you will see you get on average of 120k worth of drops per boss (assuming mirages sell for 30k, edges/drums for 150k, and crusade order 3s for 35k) with the edges and drums having an average drop rate of just over 40% when all 3 drops are taken into account.
Assuming you have a party of 3 people, (1 veno to tank with pet, 1 person needing edges, and 1 needing drums) you will still make money even discounting the edges and drums will go towards the creation of your weapon.

Subs only cost ~50k to make (assuming you actually buy the mats for 2.5k each instead of harvesting them)

So 50k to enter, 240k in drops split 3 ways = a profit of 30k per run on average, even if you shared the edges and drums.

Mosz - Heavens Tear wrote: »

the entire point of TT is for those drops like edge, drum ect , not for the MC....
also solo mode has lower droprate (halfish) of party mode

Lies. I do it for mirages. And for the mats too I guess.

I can run through 1-1 in probably about 15-20 minutes.
It costs 60-65k for a substance to enter.
If I pick up 2 mirage stones that covers my cost.
Any materials I pick up are bonus, and I make/sell the weapons for a good profit.
Plus the mobs in there drop a few DQ items here and there to sell for a little more.

Really its nice being able to do it with no hiero ticks/potions.

From personal experience I'd say solo is a big waste of time. Subs, pots/charms, time, all for 1 or 0 cheiftens or drums.

Just get a group of 4 and do squad mode, costs nothing to enter, only takes around 10 - 15 minutes longer than solo, and you can get between 2 and 4 edges/drums, I've never gotten under 2, it's usually 3, so 2 runs in <30 minutes all 4 of you are almost guaranteed a chieften.

If you're running for cash, I don't think drum is worth the time getting through mobs, and he's pretty tough with 4, just get edges in cash runs.

Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »

Lies. I do it for mirages. And for the mats too I guess.

I can run through 1-1 in probably about 15-20 minutes.
It costs 60-65k for a substance to enter.
If I pick up 2 mirage stones that covers my cost.
Any materials I pick up are bonus, and I make/sell the weapons for a good profit.
Plus the mobs in there drop a few DQ items here and there to sell for a little more.

Really its nice being able to do it with no hiero ticks/potions.

And you all get pheonixs for pvp....overpowered in my opinion!!!!

Lecher - Sanctuary wrote: »

little confused


what's tt 1-1 i know tt is twilight temple but what's 1-1?

TT have several rooms (3 as far as i know, depending which part you enter) with different range levels dropping different TT materials (1st number). Each room also have multiple difficulty (2nd number)

Wrathx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Just to be clear. Are you saying that if you run squad mode you don't need the substances to get in?

Also so you all are saying that squad mode is better if you have a few people that want to do it? I know some people that take a squad in and do the solo mode I think because you can do it fast that way.

Yes you do not need a substance to enter squad mode, but you can use one to unlock extra bosses.

However if you take a squad into solo mode, there is a good chance only one person will get any mats due to a bad drop rate. On my veno I've done 10 runs in a row on solo mode and did not get a single mat drop.b:angry

Wrathx - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Thanks for the info.

Oh forgot to ask, what level should you be to even attempt to solo in Twilight Temple?

veno's at lvl63 ...and other classes i dono ^^

it's free for anyone to get in, just farm the mats for a lil bit....
and i do that anyway
Then it's 100% profit in solo mode so who cares what you get its usualy worth the trip and its fun

For most veno's i've noticed this can be good practice for squad mode. b:laugh

...should be mandatory 24hrs practice solo mode before you can squad