Classes, Expansion And Pwi

Whir - Heavens Tear
Whir - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
edited December 2008 in General Discussion
Hi guys,
I'm fairly new compared to some of you guys but i think that you could give some of the PWI team a bit of slack:
1) The expansion is their FIRST, and I think there is plenty of content for lower lvl players, any more would be too much. I always find in any game that higher lvl characters are hard to lvl so it's right they should get added quests and zones.
2) The classes seem pretty balanced to me, humans seem to be the power dealers, winged elves have the ability to fly from lvl 1, and untamed can used pets and the like.
3) I've played on quite a few free mmorpg's but none this good. The graphics are better than any other, no need to grind at low lvls, and a game that is updated all the time, so well done PWI!
4) And best of all it's FREE, most of the items in the boutique are for fashion.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENINGb:victory
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Just wait until the new Veno pets start one-hitting caster types in territory wars. Then the balance between classes will be tipped a bit.
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  • Whir - Heavens Tear
    Whir - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Just wait until the new Veno pets start one-hitting caster types in territory wars. Then the balance between classes will be tipped a bit.

    Maybe, but a faction can work around this surely.
    I haven't had alot of experience in territory wars as u can see by my lvl but you could target those veno's and try and beat them
  • Hirogi - Heavens Tear
    Hirogi - Heavens Tear Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    I agree with Whir. Venomancers arent that though when you manage to mob the caster and have some defense against its pet. But i bet PW will add something back to balance the power if the Venos get too strong.
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  • Tara - Lost City
    Tara - Lost City Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Hi guys,
    I'm fairly new compared to some of you guys but i think that you could give some of the PWI team a bit of slack:
    1) The expansion is their FIRST, and I think there is plenty of content for lower lvl players, any more would be too much. I always find in any game that higher lvl characters are hard to lvl so it's right they should get added quests and zones.
    2) The classes seem pretty balanced to me, humans seem to be the power dealers, winged elves have the ability to fly from lvl 1, and untamed can used pets and the like.
    3) I've played on quite a few free mmorpg's but none this good. The graphics are better than any other, no need to grind at low lvls, and a game that is updated all the time, so well done PWI!
    4) And best of all it's FREE, most of the items in the boutique are for fashion.

    THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENINGb:victory

    this game has been out for years :/ just not in the US and no offense but level 15 i guess you will understand as you progress further.
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    this game has been out for years :/ just not in the US and no offense but level 15 i guess you will understand as you progress further.

    lol, he's level 15 but raises better points than some that i've seen from people double and even quadruple his level.
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    lol, he's level 15 but raises better points than some that i've seen from people double and even quadruple his level.

    REALLY?
    1. by 5x the number of quests u get isint that much, by 60 is mostly grind
    2.elf archer is highest dd argueable with human wizard depending on lvl, only 1 untamed uses pet
    3.updated all the time? past 2 months what have we gotten besides cash shop and tiny translation fix?
    4. boutique is required to upgrade weapons, its required to win competitive TW, required to zhen, required for GA, required for pk pretty much, oh lets see SUPER BATTLE PETS? dont say its free, they make more then a comparatively sized monthly rate game
  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    REALLY?
    1. by 5x the number of quests u get isint that much, by 60 is mostly grind
    2.elf archer is highest dd argueable with human wizard depending on lvl, only 1 untamed uses pet
    3.updated all the time? past 2 months what have we gotten besides cash shop and tiny translation fix?
    4. boutique is required to upgrade weapons, its required to win competitive TW, required to zhen, required for GA, required for pk pretty much, oh lets see SUPER BATTLE PETS? dont say its free, they make more then a comparatively sized monthly rate game


    The reason why PW is great good is because this game can still be enjoyed without spending a dime.

    Only those wishing to be the best will spend money on the game. b:pleased
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  • haviik
    haviik Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    problem with that is... in order to progress through the game you need botique... or countless hours of available time to play
    i enjoy the game but even up to the expansion its still glitchy....
    the events are ****
    in game costs of everything are still ridiculous.... i could continue
    basically the devs need to fix the pre-existing issues before expanding the game
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    The reason why PW is great good is because this game can still be enjoyed without spending a dime.

    Only those wishing to be the best will spend money on the game. b:pleased

    Mosz doesn't appear to know about the Auctioneer's gold purchase system.

    See why I say Whir makes better points than some higher levels?

    (Note for the next idiot who tries to take him down with poor counters: SOME higher levels >.> )
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  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Mosz doesn't appear to know about the Auctioneer's gold purchase system.

    See why I say Whir makes better points than some higher levels?

    (Note for the next idiot who tries to take him down with poor counters: SOME higher levels >.> )

    ^__^

    Yep Gotta love the Auction House b:victory
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  • Whir - Heavens Tear
    Whir - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Thanks all for comments sorry if u disagree but thats how i feel
  • Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear
    Kimyrielle - Heavens Tear Posts: 280 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Most of what you said is right on the spot, being L15 or not. Particularly I find the people hilarious who complain about PW not being a free game and that you have to use the cash store to do some things. Guys, seriously: You've played this game for 60+ levels and still didn't notice that PW isn't free as in beer, but a normal commercial game just having a different business model than a game having monthly fees? One that in contrast to P2P games _does_ allow you to bypass paying for it altogether if you really want it, though?
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  • The_Bladed_Z - Lost City
    The_Bladed_Z - Lost City Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Whir has right the game is fantastik.
    Yes boutice have xp scrolls and the best battle pets but i give the shitt.
    I youst gona to lean back and enjoy the game whitout spending any money!
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Mosz doesn't appear to know about the Auctioneer's gold purchase system.

    See why I say Whir makes better points than some higher levels?

    (Note for the next idiot who tries to take him down with poor counters: SOME higher levels >.> )

    seriously you think i dont know about it? go back to bed and try again tomorrow, all that gold in AH doesn't come from nowhere, also realize most my post is related to the its not only fashion part..
    oh yah as ive said in other posts I haven't bought any zen yet(and have used scrolls,charms, dragon orbs, fashion, and more?)[also what difference does it make if i knew if there was a gold trader or not, all CS items are tradeable...so makes no difference--fail argument], have the most pks (ok so they're from TW, but still means im not a useless archer)on HT as archer, and am 77, so kthxbye?
  • Ubiqui - Heavens Tear
    Ubiqui - Heavens Tear Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    I haven't really played for very long either. But I can say I got to level 40 without spending a dime in the boutique. I just recently spent $20 so I could get a mount, it wasn't NEEDED just a convienence. You could play the game forever without using the boutique.

    I do agree with all of Whir's points..

    It is a great game..
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    seriously you think i dont know about it? go back to bed and try again tomorrow, all that gold in AH doesn't come from nowhere, also realize most my post is related to the its not only fashion part..
    oh yah as ive said in other posts I haven't bought any zen yet(and have used scrolls,charms, dragon orbs, fashion, and more?)[also what difference does it make if i knew if there was a gold trader or not, all CS items are tradeable...so makes no difference--fail argument], have the most pks (ok so they're from TW, but still means im not a useless archer)on HT as archer, and am 77, so kthxbye?

    Blah blah blah whine. You're quick to play the "Fail argument" attack and yet..
    REALLY?
    1. by 5x the number of quests u get isint that much, by 60 is mostly grind

    5x-> 6x is easy (I've been doing a level a day so far, no problems) and from 6x you already start getting new things to do with the TT.
    2.elf archer is highest dd argueable with human wizard depending on lvl, only 1 untamed uses pet

    Congratulations, you managed to support the argument you're attacking. He's arguing that there is balance and everyone has their own advantage. Well, like you said: Archer and Wiz have the best power. Venos have pets and yes, Barb's don't but they can tank and are needed in virtually all parties that are going after a boss. The only class that doesn't seem to have an (obvious) edge is BM, but even they're supposed to be pretty good.
    3.updated all the time? past 2 months what have we gotten besides cash shop and tiny translation fix?

    Just because you don't like the updates doesn't mean it's a valid reason to dismiss his argument. Go buy WoW's new expansion if you care about fancy updates so much.
    4. boutique is required to upgrade weapons, its required to win competitive TW, required to zhen, required for GA, required for pk pretty much, oh lets see SUPER BATTLE PETS? dont say its free, they make more then a comparatively sized monthly rate game

    And this is the biggest fail point. It is possible to survive without paying a penny. easily.There are loads of people who buy day-to-day items without real money, and yes, there are already those who have bought the "SUPER BATTLE PETS" without touching the boutique. You can't even do that in a lot of games! Fair enough, it's not easy, but if you want easy, again, go to another game.

    You tried to dismiss Whir's arguments with a load of opinions, and you call mine a fail argument. Well done.
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  • Solky - Lost City
    Solky - Lost City Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    You're level 15 . Try to repost this when you're level... let's say 50-60. I dare you.
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Blah blah blah whine. You're quick to play the "Fail argument" attack and yet..



    5x-> 6x is easy (I've been doing a level a day so far, no problems) and from 6x you already start getting new things to do with the TT.



    Congratulations, you managed to support the argument you're attacking. He's arguing that there is balance and everyone has their own advantage. Well, like you said: Archer and Wiz have the best power. Venos have pets and yes, Barb's don't but they can tank and are needed in virtually all parties that are going after a boss. The only class that doesn't seem to have an (obvious) edge is BM, but even they're supposed to be pretty good.



    Just because you don't like the updates doesn't mean it's a valid reason to dismiss his argument. Go buy WoW's new expansion if you care about fancy updates so much.



    And this is the biggest fail point. It is possible to survive without paying a penny. easily.There are loads of people who buy day-to-day items without real money, and yes, there are already those who have bought the "SUPER BATTLE PETS" without touching the boutique. You can't even do that in a lot of games! Fair enough, it's not easy, but if you want easy, again, go to another game.

    You tried to dismiss Whir's arguments with a load of opinions, and you call mine a fail argument. Well done.

    oi oi oi
    i never said lvling was hard at 5x or 6x did daily lvl+until right around 70, those levels the quests give a lot less towards a lvl is all i said
    2. ARCHERS ARENT HUMAN THEY ARE ELF
    3.saying we got our first expansion after 2/3 months doesnt mean updates often, this game has been around what 2+ years now on chineese server..
    4.read my point i havent bought any zen, yes i buy for in game coins from others but the boutique stuff is necessary to farm TT, so good job there. he said its mostly fashion no its not, the super battle pets arent fashion. orbs arent fashion (jsut try to upgrade without them) and enjoy using charms when you actually hit 59 and get blue ball, heck did i even say getting a battle pet without cash shop was impossible? no if i sold off a few things in storage i could buy one, dont twist my words to try to say what i didnt, its just that they are only available from boutique items
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    oi oi oi
    i never said lvling was hard at 5x or 6x did daily lvl+until right around 70, those levels the quests give a lot less towards a lvl is all i said
    2. ARCHERS ARENT HUMAN THEY ARE ELF
    3.saying we got our first expansion after 2/3 months doesnt mean updates often, this game has been around what 2+ years now on chineese server..
    4.read my point i havent bought any zen, yes i buy for in game coins from others but the boutique stuff is necessary to farm TT, so good job there. he said its mostly fashion no its not, the super battle pets arent fashion. orbs arent fashion (jsut try to upgrade without them) and enjoy using charms when you actually hit 59 and get blue ball, heck did i even say getting a battle pet without cash shop was impossible? no if i sold off a few things in storage i could buy one, dont twist my words to try to say what i didnt, its just that they are only available from boutique items
    1.Then.. what the hell is your point? He's like saying that there's loads of stuff for lower levels and you are just saying some rubbish about quests?! Wtf? So they give a lot less towards your level, big deal. Grinding works fine around those levels.
    2. So... what?
    3. Again, if that's such a big deal to you, bye! b:bye
    4. Okay, not all of the items are fashion, but still, you were all going on about how this requires boutique, that requires boutique, but those boutique items can be bought with in-game gold so YES it can be free. I'm not trying to twist your words, idiot, look at your own quote:
    Dont say its free, they make more then a comparatively sized monthly rate game

    Just because people CHOOSE to pay real money doesn't automatically mean the game is not free >.>
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    1.Then.. what the hell is your point? He's like saying that there's loads of stuff for lower levels and you are just saying some rubbish about quests?! Wtf? So they give a lot less towards your level, big deal. Grinding works fine around those levels.
    2. So... what?
    3. Again, if that's such a big deal to you, bye! b:bye
    4. Okay, not all of the items are fashion, but still, you were all going on about how this requires boutique, that requires boutique, but those boutique items can be bought with in-game gold so YES it can be free. I'm not trying to twist your words, idiot, look at your own quote:



    Just because people CHOOSE to pay real money doesn't automatically mean the game is not free >.>
    my god do i need to spell it out?
    1. he says there is a lot of content for lower levels, i just say there is less content for lvl 5x and 6x while patch is 70+mainly
    2. i was correcting his classification of races, i didnt say anything about balance just correcting him
    3.ok bye first "exansion" after 2.5 years is not "often" i didnt say its not often enough, but it doesnt warrant "updated all the time" gouf bug barrage of arrows bug buzz bleed bug all been there over a year, don't get a false impression of "updated all the time"-thats practically a lie
    4.ther is no monthly fee, did you think i didnt notice? specific skills and bosses in the game are designed to make users buy boutique items,some things arent realistically possible (like the .0125% chance to upgrade past 4 or 5) without specific cash shop ONLY items, so hard to understand? DID I NOT JUST SAY I GOT TO 77 WITHOUT PURCHASING ANY ZEN OR ARE YOU BLIND? This game isn't designed to be free and to make money off of things that are fashion, look good, asetetic mostly, it tries to require you to purchase some of the things whether it be directly from cash shop or from people that buy from cash shop, cash shop stuff is tradeable as is gold auctioning, ive notice wow no duh.
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    my god do i need to spell it out?
    1. he says there is a lot of content for lower levels, i just say there is less content for lvl 5x and 6x while patch is 70+mainly
    5x and 6x aren't that low. I already said that.
    2. i was correcting his classification of races, i didnt say anything about balance just correcting him good for you
    3.ok bye first "exansion" after 2.5 years is not "often" i didnt say its not often enough, but it doesnt warrant "updated all the time" gouf bug barrage of arrows bug buzz bleed bug all been there over a year, don't get a false impression of "updated all the time"-thats practically a lieBlame the developers >.>
    4.ther is no monthly fee, did you think i didnt notice? specific skills and bosses in the game are designed to make users buy boutique items,some things arent realistically possible (like the .0125% chance to upgrade past 4 or 5) without specific cash shop ONLY items, so hard to understand? DID I NOT JUST SAY I GOT TO 77 WITHOUT PURCHASING ANY ZEN OR ARE YOU BLIND? This game isn't designed to be free and to make money off of things that are fashion, look good, asetetic mostly, it tries to require you to purchase some of the things whether it be directly from cash shop or from people that buy from cash shop, cash shop stuff is tradeable as is gold auctioning, ive notice wow no duh. Er.. Right... >.>


    Yeah.. that's a lotta whining there, so I'm gonna end this now. Feel free to continue with someone else who can be bothered though.
    Mua - 8x WF - Conqueror
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Yeah.. that's a lotta whining there, so I'm gonna end this now. Feel free to continue with someone else who can be bothered though.

    blame the developers is a valid argument against there are not enough updates(vs the opinion that are are many)?

    whining? i was correctly false information, thats considering whining now? or only when it directly conflicts with your misguided presumptions and mis statements?

    oh look at me i cant defend what i say because well i was wrong so im gonna stop arguing, yah thats it!

    err right i don't know what you are talking about because im a low level, tee hee, im just gonna make a smiley face so people agree with me!

    i give facts while you say people are wrong and cant defend why, thanks for contributing!
  • Mua - Lost City
    Mua - Lost City Posts: 546 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    i was correctly false information

    I lol'd hard.

    This is why I can't argue with people like you, you can't even get basic english right, yet alone present decent arguments.
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  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    I lol'd hard.

    This is why I can't argue with people like you, you can't even get basic english right, yet alone present decent arguments.

    yes i typo, ....i think you can figure out what i meant...decent argument? tell me whats wrong with my facts please i haven't seen you present any useful to this discussion...

    HAHAHA YOU CANT CAPITALIZE "english" that means you must be a terrorist or can't present arguments in English, oh wait i could easily figure out what you meant, its no biggie FFS
  • Sora_yamada - Heavens Tear
    Sora_yamada - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    And your arguing over the Internet why? Just shut up and be on your way, simple as that.
  • WindGaurdian - Sanctuary
    WindGaurdian - Sanctuary Posts: 326 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    what a Perfect World.. end of story.
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  • Whir - Heavens Tear
    Whir - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    You're level 15 . Try to repost this when you're level... let's say 50-60. I dare you.


    Don't worry I will be back in 45 lvls. Thanks for all your comments, some valid points and as i said im not here to be an annoying lvl 15 thinking everything's brill, but i still stick by my original points.

    PS thanks Mua for sticking up for me.

    SEE YOU OUT IN THE PERFECT WORLDb:victory
  • Elementx - Lost City
    Elementx - Lost City Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Ok lets see, for the boutique whiners, its a cash shop came, allows u to chose between pay to play or not. they pay to host their server, they pay for their gms and (can u guess?) they are a busyness which means they are in it for profit. now stop whining.
    "If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."b:shutup
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  • Ocane_II - Heavens Tear
    Ocane_II - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    REALLY?
    1. by 5x the number of quests u get isint that much, by 60 is mostly grind
    2.elf archer is highest dd argueable with human wizard depending on lvl, only 1 untamed uses pet
    3.updated all the time? past 2 months what have we gotten besides cash shop and tiny translation fix?
    4. boutique is required to upgrade weapons, its required to win competitive TW, required to zhen, required for GA, required for pk pretty much, oh lets see SUPER BATTLE PETS? dont say its free, they make more then a comparatively sized monthly rate game

    the game itself is free, no if ands or buts about that its not complicated, you dont pay and you can play! not to mention almost anything in the cash shop can be found in game, yeah maybee a bit pricy BUT thats life so expect it.

    and as for the low amount of updates you just mentions that is a complete lie or thoughtless remark, ive been playing for much much much less then that lets try about two weeks and ive seen more updates then that so yeah... and seriously ANY is better then none, and to be honest half the people here deserve none because of the over abundance of whining..


    and this game is not ALL TW lets not forget that, dont expect them to be bias to one part of the game
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  • Ocane_II - Heavens Tear
    Ocane_II - Heavens Tear Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Don't worry I will be back in 45 lvls. Thanks for all your comments, some valid points and as i said im not here to be an annoying lvl 15 thinking everything's brill, but i still stick by my original points.

    PS thanks Mua for sticking up for me.

    SEE YOU OUT IN THE PERFECT WORLDb:victory

    i agree with you 100 percent

    its just human nature to whine and complain about not having things their way jsut because they partake in it, what they fail to understand is while they do nothing but complain there are people keeping the game they play running

    so dont mind the jerks that give the gms **** all the time they are just rude
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