I can't stay alive!

Volkner - Lost City
Volkner - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
edited December 2008 in Archer
First of all, I can't get my archer avatar to come up so I am using this one.b
So, as the title says I am a lvl 13 archer and I keep dying! Every time I go into a battle
with one monster I lose 1/2 to 2/3 of my hp. I have am mp charm about half empty and
no one will sell me a hp charm. So am I doomed or can I fix this?b:surrender
As the sun sets in the fire-blown sky, the advent of war falls upon us. I will go, fight for my nation, for my people. I will use my magic, to strike from a distance, never backing down. I will go, and bring glory to our kind. Because the time has come for this war to end. We need to band together and defeat the Wraiths. I will help make that happen. For I am a Wizard.
~The oath of a Wizard
Volkner
lvl 2x Mage
Lost City
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  • Shikyura - Sanctuary
    Shikyura - Sanctuary Posts: 143 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    ive like only played a day...but i know that an archer (based off my experience in other games) requires more HP then MP...which means you shouldve gotten the HP charm...i used mine up around lvl 16 or so...since i take damage easily...id say MP would be for the other class of elves..the cleric
  • Celebren - Heavens Tear
    Celebren - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    how did you spread your lvl points (those 5 you get every lvl up) ?

    Based on a 2 lvl model = 10 lvl points to spend

    For a pure archer it would be 2 STR and 8 DEX (max. damage but hard to survive)
    For a mix you can spend 1 STR, 1 VIT and 8 DEX for example. There are various spreads here already shown in forum.

    Your STR should always be 4 more then your lvl for being able to wear light armor. I.E. your char lvl is 13 your STR should be 17. Armor you get from tailor or as drop from mobs.

    Gems:
    for waepon only one with +physical attack and accuray (archer never does magic damage, skills are all based on phys dmg, accuracy increases your crit hit rate)
    for armor those with physical deff up, blank hp up, +str - maybe also with +VIT (for more and better HP reg)

    Going in battle:
    best is to do quest which are max same lvl then your char = killing mobs of same lvl or lower. Till 4 or 5 lvl lower you wont have an worse xp and drop gain.
    Try to stay as far away from mobs as possible = range max. As nearer mobs come to you as less dmg you do, but they do on you *gg*. If mobs come to close use knockback skill or run away some steps and shoot agin
    justice might be blind - but i also see in darkness
  • Volkner - Lost City
    Volkner - Lost City Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Well my points are all over: I think my stats are around this: 35dex, 17or so vit, 17 str,10maq. Ive read some other threads and it seems archers are pretty much doomed with either charm. Hmmm, mabey I will keep looking for the "perfect" class. I dont know.
    As the sun sets in the fire-blown sky, the advent of war falls upon us. I will go, fight for my nation, for my people. I will use my magic, to strike from a distance, never backing down. I will go, and bring glory to our kind. Because the time has come for this war to end. We need to band together and defeat the Wraiths. I will help make that happen. For I am a Wizard.
    ~The oath of a Wizard
    Volkner
    lvl 2x Mage
    Lost City
  • Nevermore - Heavens Tear
    Nevermore - Heavens Tear Posts: 438 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Archers do not need mag at all. Never put a point into it. Never.

    You're good on the str, your str should always be 4 points higher than your current lvl.

    Putting points in vit might seem good now but you'll have to restat in higher lvls.

    Archers are damage dealers, to not overpower them their weakness is taking heaps of damage when hit and dying rather easily.

    If you want to deal damage without being knocked out so easily stick with a BM ;)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • white7
    white7 Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Archers are great.I had that 10k hp charm till lvl 25. Later it becomes much more harder, you have to keep your armor AND weapon on highest possible level and quality, or mobs will get to you and own you easily. Also i suggest you to lvl up a bit and use Winged shell, i always use it when i see that mob will hit me and it gives me extra seconds to kill(btw winged shell is great in pvp too). You should also kite a lot ( run, shot, run, shot). Of course using Knockback/ Stuning/ sometimes Aim low is essential for playing as an archer.
    The only problem with archer, what i see, is with mana. My usual combo for killing mob before he gets to me cost me over 600 MP, its f*cking mana sucker. For solving that problem there are imho 2 possibilities:
    • Use lots of mana equip, + magic and +MP, shards, often using winged shell (it regenerates a lil bit more than it needs), prefering to spam normal arrows and often using kiting and drink a lot of MP potions.
    • buy MP charms and spam skills as much as you want and laught to world:) It aint that expensive, I buy them for real money but i know a lot ppl, who buy gold mana charms with no problem for gaming money and still got great equip and high lvl skills.
    My oppinion- Archers are great, but you have to be smart enough to make money for your necesary equipment.

    Im lvl 56 pure dex archer on Heavens Tear.
    Edit: mp charms are always better and cheaper than potions, even if you buy them for gaming money.
  • Mosz - Heavens Tear
    Mosz - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    frost arrow is your friend as is winged shell maybe u need a better weapon look around the shops kill quest monsters and monsters that are just at your level
    great wep+great rings is the key to kill fast as archer look in player shops or auction house, do quests! sell off the drops/rewards for right price(look around and learn) and youll be fine
  • Ermosa - Heavens Tear
    Ermosa - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    well always get best weapon lvl x2=bow, x5=xbow and x8=slingshot(<---it only looks bad, but is great for grinding)
    buy mana charms(they r cheaper than mp pots, so with using those u can save some money), get hp charm(they r only lil bit more expensive than hp pots, but it will save ur life so often that u wont regret buying them). at higher lvl when u have high enough base dmg u can use take aim or stun(i prefer anything that dun let mobs move for a while) as 1st shot and then just use normal arrows.
    if u think u r gonna die then use winged shell and fly away, it gives u around 15 second time to do that
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  • Sajra - Lost City
    Sajra - Lost City Posts: 169 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Shikyura - Sanctuary wrote: »
    ive like only played a day...but i know that an archer (based off my experience in other games) requires more HP then MP...which means you shouldve gotten the HP charm...i used mine up around lvl 16 or so...since i take damage easily...id say MP would be for the other class of elves..the cleric


    and your lvl... 83?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Forsaken Sigs

    Sajra - Level 31 - Hell Archer.
  • bobzilla21
    bobzilla21 Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    lol, I think she means she's only played as an archer for 1 day.b:laugh
    I figured I should do something with my sig, so I made this for fun. My very first (poorly made) animation. b:victory
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    As for why Luffy is murdering Naruto, I have no idea either, but it looks cool.b:laugh
  • Envy - Lost City
    Envy - Lost City Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Sajra - Lost City wrote: »
    and your lvl... 83?

    That was posted in October.
  • BloodCountes - Heavens Tear
    BloodCountes - Heavens Tear Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    Volkner - Lost City wrote: »
    Well my points are all over: I think my stats are around this: 35dex, 17or so vit, 17 str,10maq. Ive read some other threads and it seems archers are pretty much doomed with either charm. Hmmm, mabey I will keep looking for the "perfect" class. I dont know.

    You'd better restart and create a new archer. Use more often winged shell and don't forget to look at what type of mob u fight (hp, def, weakness and so on).
    My people, some of them have run away to the hills
    and have no shelter. No food, no one knows where they are,
    hear me my chiefs, I am tired. My heart is sick and sad,
    I will fight no more....
  • deciett
    deciett Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited December 2008
    BloodCountes - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You'd better restart and create a new archer. Use more often winged shell and don't forget to look at what type of mob u fight (hp, def, weakness and so on).

    Only types of mob to worry about are increased life and increased defense-- others are easy enough to kill.

    Hell, a lot of the mobs my level are wood type and I dont even bother to exploit the weakness by using mental attacks unless I am about to die. They're just way too mana inefficient to even bother using.

    To put it in perspective, my mental attacks do an average hit of 700, around 800 on a mob of wood type, at the cost of around 70 mana (I think). That's around 11.4 damage per mana. My frost arrow costs around 35-37 mana, does about 600 damage without exploiting elemental advantage. That's around 17 damage per mana. Now yes, frost arrow costs Chi but tbqh I dont use it for anything else at this level (22).

    Regardless, I don't see the fruity lightning animation often enough to make me frustrated b:shutup

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