PKing BM

Tarterus - Lost City
Tarterus - Lost City Posts: 42 Arc User
edited November 2008 in Blademaster
Hi, I am looking for the best weapon for pking. (can't seem to find it in the guides) I currently use this build: 3str 1dex 1vit but I am thinking of switching to 2str 2dex 1vit. Are these good builds for PvP/PK/TW? I have pretty much narrowed it down to fist/claw or dual sword/blade. By the way, is there a difference between sword and blade? I've heard that fist is better vs. wizard, cleric, and archer and sword/blade is better vs. barbarian, archer, and blademaster. Why is fist so good against wizard but sword/blade not? Are BMs a match for archers or will we get pwnd every time?
I also have a lvl 25 wizard but every time I faced someone in a duel I lost. (I only battled a veno, a barb, a BM, and an archer though) I found that wizard is not a good class for me but I will go back to it when I develop more skill and learn the ropes a bit better. So, Thank You for your opinions. ^_^
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  • Pwguardian - Lost City
    Pwguardian - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Yeah u got that right abouth archers. Good played archer can dominate over all other classes. Even over your BM. So stay away from them if u dont want to be killed. Abouth the wizard he is strong but later in the game somewhere abouth lvl50+. Dont know anything else that can help u. See u in game.
  • Monarch - Lost City
    Monarch - Lost City Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Tart,

    Wizards are very easy targets until 60-70+. They can NOT stand up to anyone in duels due to their long cast time. Wizards are great in TW and open pvp/pk, if they can get the drop on an unsuspecting victim.

    Fist/Claw BM's are told to go after wizard/veno/cleric/archer because all of those are LOW hp and low armor. Since Fist users have skills to cancel spells being cast and attack so fast, plus wear light armor (normally) their resists are better. Are you starting to see why they normally go after those select classes? You will do good damage on low armor toons, but not be effective vs. high armor toons.

    Blades/Swords have alot of dex, as well as heavy armor. They are great vs. archers and other barbs/BM's because the (axe and spear) BM's can't evade well, and will miss you due to their low dex. Since your dex is higher, you woln't have an issue hitting them. You will have a hard time getting to them if they are bunched and in AOE mode. IF they connect, its going to hurt you. Blade/Sword BM's generally have a lower HP due to having to use more points in dex and str for their weapon and heavy armor. Not many points for VIT left over.

    As an Hammer BM myself, I avoid archers at all costs. I have issues hitting them, and while I have enough HP to survive getting ganked, its easier for me to run than to attempt to win. Elf flying vs. Human flying will really turn the tide in that fight.
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  • Lyndura - Lost City
    Lyndura - Lost City Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    PK means you will have a PvP build. And both, Spear and Axe are superior than Sword/Fists at PKing when you're built for it.

    Axe focuses on highest damage with good accuracy to fight other classes with evasion like Archer's, and uses constant stunning to caster classes. AoE's for group PvP or TW. Your spike damage combined with your accuracy, makes you a pain for most classes. Best to fight meele classes, third against caster classes (can be second with good +HP shards).

    Spear focuses on high damage, with high evasion and accuracy for meele classes, and stunning+long range+bleed attacks for caster classes. Farstrike is your strongest skill, dealing high damage combined with the long range, and the 6 seonds cooldown, those running classes won't be much trouble for you. Second best against meele classes, and best against caster classes.

    Sword is an hybrid, medium damage, some range, some evasion and some accuracy. You have medium-strong meele skills, but they are not match against Axe skills, and your range is not match for Spear's range power, your attack speed is not macth against Fist's one, so is your evasion or accuracy. Third against meele classes, and fourth against caster classes.

    Fists use low damage, with high evasion and accuracy to defend against meele classes, but when dealing against a PvP meele class,they are better off avoiding them, because they will most likely not kill them due to their low damage. Anyways, they are better suited to fight against casters, with cast-cancelling skill, bad thing about this one is the cooldown time, which is 12 seconds normal, and 10 seconds when going Heaven. This makes you the second best against caster classes, and the fourth against meele classes.

    For PvP/PK/TW, either, PvP built Axe or PvP built Spear BladeMaster are the best.
  • pabling
    pabling Posts: 69 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    actually, axe type BM's can immprove their accuracy at 79 (dunno if its 79 or 89 on where u can get that item that improves drastically ur accuracy even for an axe type)..or just use accuracy pots (but i think ur opponent will not allow u to use 1)

    2nd is, with the skill bodhivista, u will be merely like have an archer's evasion while moving and the immune to every negative buffs (like stun, freeze, slow, i think even sleep) for 15 sec...
    (good for fighting a stunner veno, or even a cleric)

    another is if ur AoE stun is maxed, even the 79 skill of an archer cannot get away on that...althouh its only 6 sec, u can already did massive amount of dmg on him while on stun rate, or even 2-3 hit him with spark-stun-dmg skills then die...

    another thing is that we knew archers will do magic atk dmg first, wheter a pro or a newbie, then thats the time when we ned to activate our alter marrow magical, which can save u a huge life.

    we also got a self heal skill which u can use on duel since (THAT IS A SKILL)

    warriors can be deadly in pvp (as long as ur good at handling its skills) but i say doing that means lot of practice (alot of chi) and a bit brainwork....

    btw, at duels, its best if u use single target skill (beside ur AoE stun) cause AoE skills deals alot of mp
  • Burjis - Heavens Tear
    Burjis - Heavens Tear Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    @Lyndura
    I don't fully agree with your analysis. Being a sword blademaster myself, I can pwn any class in 1 vs 1 EXCEPT for the venomancer. Yeah you heard it right venomancers. I have never lost a single duel vs any class at my level or lower except for the venomancers specially when they use bramble. I can kill archers 3-4 levels higher than me, barbs up to 6 levels higher, and other blademasters at my level NEVER have a chance even though that I have a high lag! But I get pwned by a venomancer with bramble even when they are lower level.
    So, in 1v1 swords are best vs both melee AND archers not 3rd and 4th!
    BUT, if you intend to be good at AOE, and you are constantly fighting vs multiple people, forget about blades. Axe/Hammer is the way to go.

    PS. I don't care if I lose vs venomancers, this class is overpowered anyway. If a venomancer player is not good at pking then they don't know how to play.
  • ina1166
    ina1166 Posts: 297 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I used Farstrike through a wall in secret passage, one hit that squish with a 1k critical..xD...Through a WALL! Best skill EVER!
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  • Lyndura - Lost City
    Lyndura - Lost City Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Burjis - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    @Lyndura
    I don't fully agree with your analysis. Being a sword blademaster myself, I can pwn any class in 1 vs 1 EXCEPT for the venomancer. Yeah you heard it right venomancers. I have never lost a single duel vs any class at my level or lower except for the venomancers specially when they use bramble. I can kill archers 3-4 levels higher than me, barbs up to 6 levels higher, and other blademasters at my level NEVER have a chance even though that I have a high lag! But I get pwned by a venomancer with bramble even when they are lower level.
    So, in 1v1 swords are best vs both melee AND archers not 3rd and 4th!
    BUT, if you intend to be good at AOE, and you are constantly fighting vs multiple people, forget about blades. Axe/Hammer is the way to go.

    PS. I don't care if I lose vs venomancers, this class is overpowered anyway. If a venomancer player is not good at pking then they don't know how to play.

    Guess what? If you were Axe or Spear, PvP built, you would own them even more even Venomancers. Being a jack of all trades means you can really shine, or you can be the worst, and in this game, it's matter of equipment+skill what will define the result of the fight.
  • whdodaois
    whdodaois Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Well I personally think only Venos,Archers and mages can harm elfs when they are flying. So elfs can pwn blademasters from the sky...
  • chong
    chong Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    never listen to those who said BM sucks for pawning archer, or axe is the best melee class , blah blah blah, these people are just archer or axer wannabes who just know to follow others' ideas and without their own developing skills. i would say they are Nubs.

    In this game, every class is balanced well.

    axer and spear are superior? have u played Sword before? or have u found out fist mastery before. they are all very good in pk.

    archer can pawn blade master easily? unlikely, if u pk often u will find out that they are just another easy target . why? low hp. most archer are good at killing blade master, because they are just a lot higher lvl than him.

    Stop misleading ppl before finding out ur own ideas and putting noob suggestion for others. b:angry
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