a colective barbarian shout for respect.

The ferenczy - Sanctuary
The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
edited November 2008 in General Discussion
hi let me introduce myself i am the ferenczy a lower level barbarian tank *bow*

now when you have a some one tanking for you follow him talk to him respect him. our job is to get hit so you don't have to it kinda sucks. give us some respect yeah we can be slow and we don't kill as fast as you but WE KEEP YOU ALIVE. throw us a bone. don't change targets and leave us to fend for outselves. you might be watching the whole feild but we are focused on one thing the monster we are attacking and our health we don't have the privilage of being able to look behind us to make sure taht the people we are working with are still working with us. remember too that we can if we have a good damage dealer tank monsters up to 8 levels above ours but we can only kill monster that are mabey 3 levels above us and generally speaking for those of use who are untamed barbarians we will tank as a tiger and for those of you who don't know that means our attack power has been reduced.

so please please don't treat us living breathing tanks as if we are some venomancers pet (no disrespect meant to you venos out there)
one day the world will shout to me save us....
and i will whisper no.
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  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    sorry about the length of the post i had to vent some ;)
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Most people understand this ..... or should understand it. Maybe it's just the people you're working with that do not understand the role of a Tank.
  • evrilysis
    evrilysis Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    You're bad.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Or maybe it's the other way around.
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    i thought that people would understand that about the tanks but sadly every one i have been tanking for has been bad to me and cost me dearly on my exp due to my multiple deaths. :(
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    evrilysis wrote: »
    You're bad.

    what do you mean i'm bad?
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Evrilysis is a forum troll, I presume. Ignore him/her/it, as he/she/it is serving no purpose to the topic...
  • Eliatron - Lost City
    Eliatron - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Totally bad party members :P
    Not helping at all... but, but... most tanks (generally, not ur specific case) only help on fb, with tablets, of course, and OMG the famous wine... which kind of help is that? If u need mobs ur screwed bcs no one helps you.
    I recently did fb59, and when you finish killing all bosses you must gather a thing. Did anyone care about telling me that? Nope... they just left party and gone... if i crossed to a mob, bad for me...
    Thats the point, ppl only help with wines, dont explain much unless guild members help you.
    So... you want respect? Thats fair but sometimes ranged char dont get respect too... instead of "Hi" you get a "buff me, heal me, purify me"... no thx, no nothing...
    Its frustrating...
    Hope you cross with me sometimes, Ill always help and if not in a hurry I buffed bars and bm :D
  • Koe - Lost City
    Koe - Lost City Posts: 168 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    YES!! ppl who understand me. Clerics and barbarians are the biggest tools for parties. We as clerics are exploited for support and heal spells, are never shown gratitude for. You heal ppl throughout a quest, ask someone to buy u some mana pots and they yell at u like u just killed the entire party. As a tank u ask for some help killing monsters and ppl will say, "what kind of tank are u, if ur being lazy like that?".... Ask for health potions and suddenly ppl say they are broke and act like u just asked for their soul. Perhaps we should make a faction that excludes anyone who isn't a tank or support class on every server.
    I'm not mean I'm just being honest.

    I'm not insensitive, I just don't give a S.H.I.T!

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    haha yeah i guess it's the same for every one but man it totally suck to draw the fire of mobs that will kill you and then you die and lose all the exp that it took you hours to make just because you decided to help out a randome fellow with his quest so you could avoid having to grind below your level.
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • Hisui - Heavens Tear
    Hisui - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,369 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    People don't exactly thank me for luring either.

    People don't thank mages and archers for destroying a target and saving you tons of time


    Model party conversation:

    "lure that kitty"
    "nice lure, thanks."
    "good tanking. thanks for taking dmg tank."
    "np, thanks for the heals"
    "np."
    "oh mob is dead"
    "thanks DDs. great job"
    "great job guys"
    "thanks. gj"
    "okay lure that kitty over there."
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  • Ermosa - Heavens Tear
    Ermosa - Heavens Tear Posts: 292 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    its annoying to say thanks after every kitty lol
    we just normaly say thanks at end of fb or any other boss battle

    but it is rly annoying when some ppl dun say thanks or just forgets, one day helped friend with fb and got thanks 10 mins after we done it, she just forgot, thats all

    and bad side for archers is that if veno dun say to which mob he/she gonna attack its a pain in the *** to click on mob when that big golem already tank it, and then they r mad on me for not helping to kill -.-' just need to get good team with what u can work with and who respects each other

    oh and in some fbs i was barbars didnt went in tiger form, so boss attacked me, and u all can imagine how fast pure dex build archer can die. then i can hope only on cleric will notice that boss att me not others and heal me not barbar. and that dun happen often

    so i guess have to wait till more higher lvl when ppl will understand what each class can and just cant do
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  • Junon - Heavens Tear
    Junon - Heavens Tear Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Koe - Lost City wrote: »
    YES!! ppl who understand me. Clerics and barbarians are the biggest tools for parties. We as clerics are exploited for support and heal spells, are never shown gratitude for. You heal ppl throughout a quest, ask someone to buy u some mana pots and they yell at u like u just killed the entire party. As a tank u ask for some help killing monsters and ppl will say, "what kind of tank are u, if ur being lazy like that?".... Ask for health potions and suddenly ppl say they are broke and act like u just asked for their soul. Perhaps we should make a faction that excludes anyone who isn't a tank or support class on every server.

    Are never shown gratitude for support buffs and heals? Oh I'm sorry, have you been in every fb party that I've been in? Have you been in everyones fb parties all the time across all 3 servers? Give me a damn break.

    Hell I even have to be left to tank when a barb dies, my gf who happens to also be a cleric makes Dew of the Rival potions to help me when I tank until the barb has been revived. Maybe your party sucks but don't go throwing everyone into the mix just because you're rarely shown gratitude. Everyone in my fb parties play an equal role.

    Would fb be done a lot faster without damage dealers? no. Would a group be able to lure properly without a veno? no. Now with all this being said, don't let me stop you on your quest to make a guild with only clerics and barbs.....because I can guarantee you, that you'll have a sucky time getting anything done when it comes to completing fbs.
  • Lazyluna - Heavens Tear
    Lazyluna - Heavens Tear Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Hisui - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Model party conversation:

    "lure that kitty"
    "nice lure, thanks."
    "good tanking. thanks for taking dmg tank."
    "np, thanks for the heals"
    "np."
    "oh mob is dead"
    "thanks DDs. great job"
    "great job guys"
    "thanks. gj"
    "okay lure that kitty over there."

    *falls on floor in a fit of giggles* b:victory



    To OP, it seems you've had some pretty bad luck with squad members. :(

    Venos get their fair share of poor treatment as well. We're pretty much treated like extra baggage, like we can't deal damage and just stand around or something... it's not like we have attack skills of our own or nothing... I've also noticed that if a Veno ever grabs aggro by accident (tank dies, game does that double-cast ****, etc.), the Cleric will (usually) let them die. You can run around and scream for heals but chances are you'll be dead before they switch to you or anyone really cares. Yet again, we're just treated like extra baggage. This is why I avoid parties.
    b:bye RETIRED
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Hell I even have to be left to tank when a barb dies, my gf who happens to also be a cleric makes Dew of the Rival potions to help me when I tank until the barb has been revived. Maybe your party sucks but don't go throwing everyone into the mix just because you're rarely shown gratitude. Everyone in my fb parties play an equal role.

    Would fb be done a lot faster without damage dealers? no. Would a group be able to lure properly without a veno? no. Now with all this being said, don't let me stop you on your quest to make a guild with only clerics and barbs.....because I can guarantee you, that you'll have a sucky time getting anything done when it comes to completing fbs.[/QUOTE]

    ok here is it faster no i love dpers i really love clerics and venos are really nice to team up with because they can take the heat off of me when i get in ofer my head and have to heal but when it comes down to it ever one take the support for granted period and yeah i had a run of crappy parties but last night i was in a parties that treated me very well btw they were all female so mabey i just need to find parties like that :)
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • Xei - Lost City
    Xei - Lost City Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I would say I know how you feel but on my server I get nothing but respect from everyone. I can't say I am one of the best or even close to it as far as tanks go on my server but I will say I have partied with some of the best. As far as the comment about how people only help when someone has tablets for an FB that depends on the person behind the character, I myself spend about 5-6 hours a day helping people kill Jewelscalen, Gouf, Stormhorm, the 3 FB49 culti bosses. I personally hate running FB's, I get much more satisfaction of being able to say I can help any person on Lost City with an boss they need besides Krimson, he does a bit too me.

    The best thing I can tell you man is don't play for the respect of others, don't play to gain fame simply play to be the best damn tank you can be. So when that day comes and someone needs you, you know without a shadow of a doubt that you can be there for them.
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  • evrilysis
    evrilysis Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Who cares?

    If your party decides that they can do better without a tank, let them.

    Laugh at them after they're dead, problem solved.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • fuzzles
    fuzzles Posts: 628 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Frankly, as long as the cleric at least tries to keep me (when playing tank) alive, I won't complain. If it goes pear shaped, it happens..

    But a couple of times I've run across a cleric so mind blowingly idiotic, it's like being in a party with the three stooges, all rolled into one big ugly clericy ball.

    I'm doing my tanking thing, my HP is slowly being whittled away.. while our cleric, who had previously assured us that he was plenty of healer for the occasion didn't throw a single heal my way. Instead he decided to attack the boss.

    When I politely asked him whether he was totally out of his god damned monkey tree, he responded that his damage is just so awesome, it's a waste of his talents to heal me. He then suggested that I should get an HP charm. I then suggested that his mother was promiscuous and into barnyard animals. Things went downhill from there.
    Everyone here is ridiculously oversensitive.

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