Most Over Powered Class

demonicangell
demonicangell Posts: 133 Arc User
edited December 2008 in Arigora Colosseum
What In Your Oppinion Is The Most Overpowered Class In PvP
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  • Lyndura - Lost City
    Lyndura - Lost City Posts: 829 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    In my opinion, no class is overpowered at the moment. Other people could say that certain class is overpowered, being based on their class (Ex: Wizards with Clerics). But me, as a BladeMaster, find pretty balanced the fights during PvP with any class, including my own.

    I can kill any class without problems, and those classes can kill me without problems too. It's matter of equipment and skill, not really the class.

    But if I had to say which class performs the best during an specific scenary, then I would say:

    PK: Full DEX Archer's and Full Attack Clerics.
    Duels: PvP Built BladeMaster (considering the duel is on land and not air or water).
    Unkilleable: Barbarian with HP Charm.
  • demonicangell
    demonicangell Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Lyndura - Lost City wrote: »
    In my opinion, no class is overpowered at the moment. Other people could say that certain class is overpowered, being based on their class (Ex: Wizards with Clerics). But me, as a BladeMaster, find pretty balanced the fights during PvP with any class, including my own.

    I can kill any class without problems, and those classes can kill me without problems too. It's matter of equipment and skill, not really the class.

    But if I had to say which class performs the best during an specific scenary, then I would say:

    PK: Full DEX Archer's and Full Attack Clerics.
    Duels: PvP Built BladeMaster (considering the duel is on land and not air or water).
    Unkilleable: Barbarian with HP Charm.

    fair enough
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  • Rea - Heavens Tear
    Rea - Heavens Tear Posts: 56 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    There's no OP class, but if you want the best PK class I would say a full dex archer or a veno with a lvled sawfly and lvled flesh ream.
  • kensaki
    kensaki Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I'd say a pure int veno demon with the 6 sec 60% movement boost fox form move would be best PKer. You can't run away or catch them if they don't want you to.
  • embl3m
    embl3m Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    in a while venos can buy pets from the cash shop that are insanely over powered

    as well as a bugged bee pet that does 1.1k per bleed.
  • demonicangell
    demonicangell Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    embl3m wrote: »
    in a while venos can buy pets from the cash shop that are insanely over powered

    as well as a bugged bee pet that does 1.1k per bleed.

    Cant They Buy Pets Atm?
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  • ark
    ark Posts: 1,635 Arc User
    edited November 2008
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  • anima
    anima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Lol, it is laughable when u guys said Veno can own us with their pet ^^. Yeah, phoenix pet is awesome in pk... but how much you have to pay to get it ^^? Dunno about here, but in Japan server, it is not cheap ^^. 10000 of phoenix feathers, either you get it by hunting of buy from cash shop ^^, good luck.
    Why...so...serious?

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  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Just because it may cost a ton, doesn't mean it isn't overpowered and can possibly own someone.
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  • anima
    anima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    It could cost $3k-$4k here, dunno for sure. But if u got it, then no one can 1v1 with u, no one. If you don't believe me, just create a toon in other version and ask how powerful Hercules and phoenix are ^^.
    Why...so...serious?

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  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    3000-4000$?Common get real that would be taking it wayyyyyyy too far.That's the price of a car.Besides the veno is not that more powerful.It's like this.

    Right now all>veno when ignoring the pet and going straight to the Veno(which is pretty squishy)
    1st Dec All=Equal=Veno.-Balanced with a nice pet.If you manage to get to the Veno it will be as killable as it was before..The time it takes a veno with phoenix to kill u is the same time u could kill a veno instead..Just ignore the pet as you've always tried to do or get in the first shot..Boot to the head usually does the trick.
  • embl3m
    embl3m Posts: 494 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    3000-4000$?Common get real that would be taking it wayyyyyyy too far.That's the price of a car.Besides the veno is not that more powerful.It's like this.

    Right now all>veno when ignoring the pet and going straight to the Veno(which is pretty squishy)
    1st Dec All=Equal=Veno.-Balanced with a nice pet.If you manage to get to the Veno it will be as killable as it was before..The time it takes a veno with phoenix to kill u is the same time u could kill a veno instead..Just ignore the pet as you've always tried to do or get in the first shot..Boot to the head usually does the trick.

    shut up

    when the ****ing pet can one shot people and tank team mode of HH its ****ing broken

    ps 1.1k per bleed is also broken
  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    No need to flame buddy >.< I present my argument you present yours.Good.

    A pet which can One shot Any Class same level as the pet?Prove that to me in any objective way and I will surely believe what u say.I'll be waiting till then.
  • Omiekins - Lost City
    Omiekins - Lost City Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    =P If I went to pk a veno, I would go after them, not their pet. Anyways, it doesn't feel like there is really an unbalanced class atm.

    Barbs are good tanks, but bad accuracy. Same with BM, I believe.
    Archers good damagers and dodgers ,**** def and hp xD
    Veno not very good at PK, but best at PVM.
    Wizards...nobody plays wizards. << >> NOBODY. O-O So I don't know.
    Clerics are pretty good if played right, though obviously not the first class you'd choose to pvp with xD since they're healers.
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  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    embl3m wrote: »
    shut up

    when the ****ing pet can one shot people and tank team mode of HH its ****ing broken

    ps 1.1k per bleed is also broken

    I'm still waiting for any evidence that a phoenix can one shot etc.No?Ok then let's move on and believe it's balanced like it's supposed to be.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    zzz people that have never played the game saying phoenix is not overpowered..

    now with flying in tw not only will the wf own in pve, pvp, pk, soloing hh with hercules they will also own in tw. brb making a veno O_O

    and yes you can expect atleast $200++ to get one. you need 9999 feathers and they drop in fb99(?) or some high level dungeon or you can buy items from cash shop that have a chance of giving feathers
  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I figured that it would be expensive but still 2000$ seems a bit farfetched.
    I guess the only way to be sure is getting them 1st of december.If it's 2000$ PW can forget me going for it.Thats for sure,im not that crazy.

    Im also waiting for evidence that's the phoenix is really unbalanced(as in 1 hit ko) against all classes.So far none has been given.Either that or we'll have to wait till 1st of December to see it in action.

    Edit:above poster changed it to 200$,that would be more probable to my idea.
  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I figured that it would be expensive but still 2000$ seems a bit farfetched.
    I guess the only way to be sure is getting them 1st of december.If it's 2000$ PW can forget me going for it.Thats for sure,im not that crazy.

    Im also waiting for evidence that's the phoenix is really unbalanced against all classes.So far none has been given.Either that or we'll have to wait till 1st of December to see it in action.

    Edit:above poster changed it to 200$,that would be more probable to my idea.

    yeah i put an extra 0 but tbh i have no idea what it will be because the prices in this version are quite different to another version. also it depends on luck because the item in the cash shop i believe is a box that has a change to contain feathers.
  • Tomiko - Heavens Tear
    Tomiko - Heavens Tear Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    uhh overpowered.... venomance with phoenix...
  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Prove it >.<
  • sage0nemage
    sage0nemage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
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  • Foxgodz - Heavens Tear
    Foxgodz - Heavens Tear Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Not that im cricising sage but can I ask why you're asking in another post which is best and stating in this one which is?
  • Torinchibi - Lost City
    Torinchibi - Lost City Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Dunno about class per say, but I can tell you that if you center a cleric around it's most useful skill (plume shell) it sure as hell is OP. With MP charm that's immortal vs Phy dmg, and magic dmg does about as much as **** to soil. I wish the archer equivalent was that useful....
    Another skill that's super OP and you should NEVER fight against is bramble hood. Bramble guard itself is pretty damn good, but bramble hood is just suicide.

    2 skills you should never even attempt to fight against, if I see either of those, you can call me a coward all you want, but I won't turn back until they are gone, and neither should anyone else. It's like poping invulnerability pot and asking for a duel.
  • Chaotiic - Lost City
    Chaotiic - Lost City Posts: 498 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    zzzzz@ Venomancer not overpowered

    Venomancers bee bleeds light/robes for an insane amount of damge. If u get hit by the bleed it is just a case of whether or not u kill the Veno b4 u die and yes u can die after u've killed the veno from the bleed.

    This whole "ignore the pet" idea is plain stupid when the bleed hits u around 1.1-1.5k per tick and the venos attacks are far from weak ignoring the pet will get u killed fast. Kill the pet b4 it hits u with bleed and u can do something ignore the pet u die simple as.

    Also Venomancers are the ONLY class i have seen 1v1 a same level Barb and kick his **** (and yes they both had hp charms) and b4 u say it happens at low level they are both 80+

    zzzzzz@ Phoenix not overpowered

    A friend of mine has a lv100 Cleric on Oracle server he has 6333 hp and died to a Phoenix in 3 secs ( it was a test and the Veno did NOT attack just the Phoenix)

    A lv 94 cata puller build Barb took who took 8 lv90+ (mgs and clerics) 1 min to kill was killed in 5 secs by a Veno with a phoenix. He said the phoenix bleed did 3k damage to him a HEAVY user.

    Venomancers not overpowered.....yeah sure...
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  • anima
    anima Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    If u guys never seen a phoenix or hercules before, and ask to prove it, why not log on any existing server to see? No IP ban on those ^^.
    And ignoring the bee when pk? You are cracking with your idea Foxgodz, pker always kill the bee before the veno in mass PK war.
    And if you put a high hope that those pets cost less than $2k, please go to Viet or China PW and play. If I see more than 10 phoenix on Lost City, I WILL QUIT THIS GAME ^^.
    Why...so...serious?

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  • rking
    rking Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    The reason why the phoenix was overpowered is because it has sharp claw (+30% dmg) and ripping bite (+200% bleed.)

    A lvl 90 phoenix has 4K damage base. 4K * 1.3 *2 = 10.4K bleed. This is only because it's bugged that's why you're taking full damage. If it was bugged you'd only take around 2.6K in bleeding which is manageable and not kill anyone.

    Pretty much Veno is only OP when there's bug in the game, once that bug is removed it's still balance.

    And for people that say ignore the pet and go for the veno, they're usually attacking the veno first. If the veno attack them first, there's no in hell you can say ignore the pet. The bee itself (3K base damage at lvl 90) does nearly the damage as a well equipt veno.

    So if you're a heavy armor or light armor, you may kill the veno and tank the pet; this is because most veno use physical attack (bash/flesh ream.) If you're a robe, better kill that pet before it really hurt you.
  • Melodia - Lost City
    Melodia - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Agreed.. when I suprise someone, I attack the veno itself.. if I see the pet coming near me, I knock it back and try to silence it so I can kill it, since the venomancers attacks are managable. Once the pet is dead, cast some spells, then silence her so she can't call the pet for a moment and she should be dead by then.

    (I'm a mage btw)
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    Please understand that as full int, all an archer has to do is target you and roll his face on the keyboard and you are dead.

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  • Eliatron - Lost City
    Eliatron - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    http://www.ecatomb.net/petstat.php

    Go almost bottom of it... stats from Phoenix.... dont know much about Venos and their pets really. So I post the info for the experts.
  • Darkmaverick - Lost City
    Darkmaverick - Lost City Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Clerics are kind of overpowered imo, this is what I experience in duels. dunno about Arena though, as my level is too low.
  • Psynopsis - Heavens Tear
    Psynopsis - Heavens Tear Posts: 115 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Archers - the only people I have never seen them kill at the same level are barbarians, but barbarians haven't been able to kill archers either.

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