Support Clerics Get NO Help!

Interesting, I would think most people would want to squad up with a support cleric.

I am a support cleric, there's a few tricks you have to know to actually level a support cleric

#1. You are kinda screwed for the first 20 levels. Why? because 70% of the people doing your quests are also clerics.

#2. You have to be assertive. Because everyone got through the first 20 levels without a cleric, they aren't really going to notice a cleric in the area, and DON'T count on them to squad you, YOU must take the initiative in inviting them. also do NOT ask in general chat, many people turn off general chat or simply turn the tab to squad, faction or whatever, and can't see general chat. You need to either 1. whisper, or 2. Invite to squad.

I didn't solo at all after level 21. Key is you find someone killing what your killing, whisper them or invite them and latch on like the good little parasite you are. I'll tell you, the lower you are, the harder it is, but the higher you get, the easier it gets.

at 20-30 it felt like I was begging people to team me, but usually after 5 minutes of begging I would get someone to invite, and they pretty much always stuck around until I finished my quest
31-40. it started getting easier pretty much the second I threw an invite, I was accepted.

41-55. Well I can't log on now without getting 10 whispers saying "we're doing fb** can you join?

Support cleric is the hardest route you can go in this game I do believe, and the WORSE place to start at. All I can say is, take heart, it get's easier the higher you get



Also take note:
Being a support cleric, while it is my personal choice, is also completely unnecessary. Fact is 9/10 players, will not know the difference between the 1 in 100 clerics that are support, and the 99 out of 100 that are hybrid. 2 facts
1. Stats are pretty much identical between support and attack
2. when it comes to heals, most of those skills are useless,
blessing of the purehearted - Worthless (ironheart stacks infinate times, meaning you can do 3x more healing in the same time for less mp with ironheart)
Wellspring - kinda nice, but dosn't really need to be maxed ever
Revive - Well ok this one I personally believe SHOULD be maxed, while it dosn't benefit you directly, fact is if both you and the cleric next to you had it, you both could be saving eachother hours of grinding, damnit team work people
Purify - Level 1 is sufficiant for 99% of cases as all that lowers is cooldown
Group buffs - Unnecessary for a loong time buffs the same as individuals, just for lazy people, by the time your in a scenerio you need it, you'll have plenty of spirit

In summery, you can go hybrid... be able to solo just fine, and... nobody will know the difference, so basically FS is a choice, not necessary. Going FS is intentionally making things harder on yourself for no really noteworthy gain, so if you do chose this route, there's really no sense complaining...

Nursie - Lost City wrote: »

even going as a support cleric you MUST level up at least Plume Shot as high as you can, also Cyclone if you can

leaves more than enough SP to max buffs etc

also the only heal you really need to max is Ironheart, and to a lesser extent wellspring

without lvling your main attack up you will be useless and people wont want to party you because even as support you need to dish out some form of reasonable damage!

early on clerics have relatively high dmg, make use of it while you can

Heh, gotta disagree on the must. at level 54, I don't recall even once having someone complain to me about not having plume shot or cyclone, don't have them yet, don't plan to get them any time soon, personally I prefer to use the spirit on the seals myself, on bosses seems to accelerate things more then just having an extra attacker would. and the stuns/sleeps seem to help the wizard not get interrupted as much, but again I'm weird and the exception to the rules, and intentionally picking a route to make things hard on myself.

though not disagreeing completely I would highly recommend them. for regular run of the mill questing, it does make things easier, and would not leave you completely screwed in the event nobody is already questing in that area, I'm only disagreeing with the "MUST" have part.

This game can be done by any class up to even 60's alone. I imagine most players already have experience playing the game from other servers. That experience more or less says "I can do this on my own" and that leaves partying up left to the higher lvs.

If you really intend to do this on your own, then plum and cyclone are indeed a must. Otherwise you have no choice but to find a friend who plays relatively just as much as you do, has the same pace, and is willing to go with you until you both reach 60's. Another option is to focus on just doing the repeatable quest that's available at lv 30 (or is it 31). The one that requires stones be delivered to a certain npc.

BTW
Once you reach 60's I can assure you players of all kinds will be lining up to join your squad should you manage to master luring as a cleric.

Feraldreamzz - Sanctuary wrote: »

Interesting, I would think most people would want to squad up with a support cleric.

Yeah..only until they finnish their quest and you're dumped .__.

Reikara - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah..only until they finnish their quest and you're dumped .__.

Personally from what I've seen depends on what class your teaming there. 9/10 venomancers will do that to me. Wizards seem to be about 50/50 of if they will stick around to help. Blademasters and barbarians on the other hand, seem to know the importance of sucking up to clerics, as they know their lives are going to be dependent on them later. Pretty much every time I teamed with a blademaster or barb, they ask me how many I still need, and stick around until I finish. Heck quite a few times they on their own offer to do a quest to kill 55 or 75 enemies that they've already finished. I don't beg I don't guilt trip or anything, they just ask me what quests I have left, and they offer.

i have always noticed in all games the healers are hard to find so if i get a good one i keep them around long as i can but since i am a cleric (and personaly love to be a cleric) most games have resulted to the healers only working with people who pay.

In gw the monks were free then 100g 500g 1000g and now i would see them charge 5k-10k.

Personally from what I've seen depends on what class your teaming there. 9/10 venomancers will do that to me. Wizards seem to be about 50/50 of if they will stick around to help. Blademasters and barbarians on the other hand, seem to know the importance of sucking up to clerics, as they know their lives are going to be dependent on them later. Pretty much every time I teamed with a blademaster or barb, they ask me how many I still need, and stick around until I finish. Heck quite a few times they on their own offer to do a quest to kill 55 or 75 enemies that they've already finished. I don't beg I don't guilt trip or anything, they just ask me what quests I have left, and they offer.

100% true.
Venos never stay atfer they have complete their quests. That if they even team with you, most just deny teaming even after you fully buffed and/or saved their lives.
BM and barbarians are always willing to help you out with anything, wizards i had similar experiences, one or two actually ran away after they had their quests completed.

Rule of thumb, check people around your level at your faction and stick with them.

spudfuzz wrote: »

I play both venomancer and cleric..and always help people in my team after I've completed my quests...too bad not everyone else does

Indeed, I do love the 1 in 10 that actually does help us in veno's You are few and far between, but there is a reason I don't use extremes like saying veno's never help or such. There are a few, and really I wouldn't be where I am today without the help of Drakyra a veno in my faction who is quite a few levels above me, but still takes the time to help me level.

i play a cleric, and simply put, i offer help, it isnt taken, i ask for help it isnt given, at this point i'v maxed out what attack skills i can for the fact that i'm usualy soloing this entire game, once people get off their high horse and start partying the clerics once in a long while i'll start maxing out heal and buff skills

I get helped all the time. I find the best way to level up a support cleric is really just being nice to people.

Buff them first, heal them up and WAIT until AFTER they're not fighting something. Nothing is more annoying then when you're trying to focus on killing something and some random person starts whispering you or begging for an invite. It's not going to kill you to wait, but if you bug them, it may kill them and then you're really not going to get helped.

And don't whine about having not enough magic to buff people. It fills up your chii and gives you a spark. That's worth buffing people for just as much as getting the help is. Don't spam them, if they refuse don't make yourself look like a beggar.

I have a support cleric who's level 27 and she has a friends list longer then I can image simply because when and if I'm flying overhead any one who seems to be having a hard time I'll heal and buff them. Chances are, if I need help I can get it.

its harder to make support than u think cuz at low lvls no one wants u and then when ur higher lvl is gets easier

Like it's been said elsewhere on the forums...clerics aren't really needed for the first 20 levels of the game. For most people, it takes time for them to understand that they need a support cleric in their later levels.

Just think about it this way every time you're passed up for a squad: they'll be regretting it sorely later on in the game.

And just as a side note, you can still invest a reasonable amount of points in Plume Shot and Great Cyclone without sacrificing your SP for your other skills.

To all of those who have helped me: "<3 U"

I am a support cleric, can't done any thing by myself. Heal some other players and you will be sent an invite. Complete buff them and they will help you till the end.

Btw, I grew my own tanks by:
1. unequip everything I wear
2. go to lvl 20-30 areas
3. randomly heal / buff (if you used hiero, just use 25% of your MP and meditate)

chances are, these little tanks will be your future lifelines.

I'm a lvl 30 cleric now and gotta say it hasn't been all that bad along the way...I'll buff and heal people here and there mostly randomly while flying over them but really don't expect anything in return. Their sometimes "thanks." are appreciated though. I'm much more content doing things on my own. Trouble is, I really don't know how to build an "solo cleric" type. Thanks to these forums I've come to understand a few things though like how Plume and Cyclone are a must which is good because I keep them leveled higher than all my other powers...I have a general idea on my lvl points in that most have to go to my magic and hp, but I don't know how much to where...

Anyhoo, I've met plenty of A-wholes on here too...A BMaster once asked what lvl I was while my cleric was meditating and I had gone to the restroom and thinking I was ignoring him he killed me just as I got back, lmaooo...MORONS are a PLENTY unfortunately. Otherwise, I'm really just doing things on my own, getting into the story, (I dig myths and stuff...), killing monsters to level and flying over the WAAY POWERFUL ORANGE named one's, lol...It's a different kind of game to get into when I get bored of xbox live so it's fun for me.