It would be wonderfull if...

lordevil
lordevil Posts: 1 Arc User
edited November 2008 in Suggestion Box
Well lets put our sugestions to anew expansion o something like that.

This game is great! But it would be even better if:

a) The guilds could build a house, where they could put and make stuffs all based on the guild's lvl. This would make be a guild's member much more intersting.

b) The players could choose a higher class when they get at some lvl point, this would make ppl play more their first chara, they wouldn't need change to try a new way of playing... A cleric could a a priest or a dark healer (idk the rpg classes well so I'm making these just for example)

c) 2 new classes are extremely necessary: Assassins and thiefs, this would bring a new PvP experience into the game, and make it much more fun...

Now its ur turn... Whats ur opnion?
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  • werewarrior
    werewarrior Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    So yeah there is alot in this game but alot still missing. For instance the lack of indoor environments.
    Those environments would greatly change the gameplay in a huge way. Also the addition of multiple new races and classes would add alot more diverseity. Well those are just some of my ideas about the game I'd like to hear other's opinion.
  • sweaty
    sweaty Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I agree. I think 1 new race w/ 2 classes would be helpful to add more diversity. There are also some things on other servers that would be fantastic to have (exp. housing). The game is still relatively new and i think many improvements are still to come.
    Don't Sweat it.
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Sounds like someone just got through playing maplestory. b:laugh Anyway, we have 6 different available classes that each call for something different than the other. How is that not enough diversity? Do we simply need to make the game even more complicated than it already is for newer players?
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Well but we dont want to complicate it, but to bring more diversity to it, we only have 6 diferent classes, there r lots of otheres common classes missing in this game, a thief as I said would brig an excelent PvP experience... this game sometimes is based only on killing mobs, only the TW shows something different of it, I dont use to see players into PvP, and the only interaction of players in the game is for trading or squad to kill boss...

    These new classes would make u intersted to go into a PvP, adn the players would want more than just lvling...

    I've already seen lots of players leaving the game cause they tought it was boring, cause cant stand just kill mobs, we need more interaction beteween the players
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    So then what do you suggest for thieves/assassins? A 1HKO if you are able to successfully sneak up on your opponent and shank them or hold them up with a knife? It would be very over-powered in that sense, and in another it is just another form of an Archer if you want them to have ranged attacks. And archers go a completely different route than Assassins and thieves...so don't even think about grouping those together.
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    look I think we can all agree that the game is lacking some things. Venoblood, you say that more classes and races would only complicate things. Well Worlds of Warcraft has many more races and classes and is the top selling MMO game currently on the market. I think that it would lose many new players if it does not add new classes and races. A game must be able to match it's competion before it can surpass it.
  • Damnheadshot - Lost City
    Damnheadshot - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    So then what do you suggest for thieves/assassins? A 1HKO if you are able to successfully sneak up on your opponent and shank them or hold them up with a knife? It would be very over-powered in that sense, and in another it is just another form of an Archer if you want them to have ranged attacks. And archers go a completely different route than Assassins and thieves...so don't even think about grouping those together.

    What would be interesting but not overpowering would be a catcher class - so as an assasin you would attempt to sneak up on someone - get close and disable them - with stun, slow and blinded based on skills.

    This wouldnt be too overpowered as there would be little you could do on your own - one missed stun and your rediculously low HP means you melt - but with a well coordinated squad you could work wonders.
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I just turned off the PK mode, it was really boring I only found 1 person in PK, I know this is not a PvP based game, but we NEED to interact more... these classes could be a great add in this sense.

    Im in a guild, and I can see that 40- people are leaving the game because they get bored of playing, or, if they dont leave they make another chara in a dif. class, but then they stop playing again and never come back...

    Its sure that if these classes (or any other) are added we'll need to change the way of playing, there will need new dungeons based on their playing style, a thief could sneak trought the foes and switch a button making the way easyer for example, but the most intersting about these classes are really the PvP.

    All my suggestions are integrated, for example: a thief could steal a house's stuff plan from another player.

    But Im not saying that these classes have to be added, I just thik that they are common classes on the RPGs and it will be good to have them here too, but other classes can be added too.

    And I cant see why an archer cant squad with a thief or an assassin, it would be really great to see such a squad. As its to see a cleric and a barb toghether.
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited October 2008

    And I cant see why an archer cant squad with a thief or an assassin, it would be really great to see such a squad. As its to see a cleric and a barb toghether.

    By grouping I meant as you go higher in levels to eventually switch from Archer -> Assassin/Thief. By the way, PvE worlds are not all about PvPing. If you want a server based entirely on PvP, go to the Lost City server. It's kind of weird for you to expect PvE servers to have a lot of people running around in PvP killing each other.
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Veno, theres something about u that I cant understand: do u think that adding classes is a bad idea? Do u really believe that PW is good enought as it is?

    The first thing we must see is: Every day lots of MMO are coming, and they base themselfs on the things that are missing in the others, and compared to the other games PW has few options on classes.

    I never told that an archer could become a thief or assassin. If these classes were added they should be independent, a thief could become an assassin, but any of the actual classes could become them...

    I dont want just ppl killing each other, I want them to interact more then in TW.
  • Venoblood - Heavens Tear
    Venoblood - Heavens Tear Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I never told that an archer could become a thief or assassin. If these classes were added they should be independent, a thief could become an assassin, but any of the actual classes could become them...

    Neither did I. I just spoke on behalf of thieves possibly having ranged attacks, as that was no matter nor need to group it together with an Archer as a higher rank.
    Veno, theres something about u that I cant understand: do u think that adding classes is a bad idea? Do u really believe that PW is good enought as it is?

    Yes, actually, I do. There's a difference between diversity and too complicated.
  • Eliatron - Lost City
    Eliatron - Lost City Posts: 107 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I like the game the way it is.
    Generally adding more classes means more things to learn before even start playing.
    6 classes is quite enough and allow defined roles in party.
    No one heals as a cleric for example. That means that if you like supports chars, you generally go as a cleric, (not considering that Venos got a lots of debuff skills very useful in PvP.)
    This way newbie players can learn fast or find fast solution for what you want.

    If anyone has ever play Dungeons And Dragons will understand me.
    Were talking about +50 classes... what the problem? You dont what you have to choose to play the style you want! Confusing builds, very bad builds and creating another char, leading to frustration.

    Dont forget that actully on expasion Lost Empire more skills will be added.

    And PvE server? Dont pretend then to pked lots of ppl.... why would I go running in the middle of the land with the Pk option disable risking my precious time?
  • paganb
    paganb Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Personaly I would like to see classes not so restricted to races before adding new ones.
    Though one would realy need to add three classes as things stand, perhaps something like...

    Geomancer- a caster in tune with the land and plantlife around them.
    Spell focussing on snares and Dot attacks.

    and some of what's being talked about sound more like a prestige class idea.
  • khaliahna
    khaliahna Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    i was a little sad when i found the game and there were only 3 races. but the races they have are nice, and i like that each one has both a spell caster and a meele (though the meele is transformed to long range in the winged elves). I do not like the fact that only Females can be Venomancers, and only Males can be Barbarians. The Untamed are the only race with gender limitations. That NEEDS TO GO in my opinion.

    as for higher classes, with the release of the new expansion on december 1st, giving you the ability to choose between good and evil, i do agree with the addition of equivalent higher classes. such as the "rebirth" system that wow uses. reach lvl 100 and choose between two new classes. Like a Blade Master could go Dark Blade or White Knight (or something equally cheesy). But this will undoubtedly take a while because with the new classes would need to come additional quests, skill additions, territories, ect. but it would be interesting to see how far we can take this game.
  • khaliahna
    khaliahna Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    as for all the base races and classes, i think those are fine the way they are. as someone has already stated, they allow for easily definable roles in the game, and makes things easier for newer players (something alot of games don't take into context is that the first 5 minutes of game play determines the ease, flow and compatibility. if a newbie is frustrated or confused and cannot continue, it reduces his likeliness to log back in and continue playing. but making it TOO easy reduces this likeliness as well, because if the game is TOO easy, it's boring.)

    the only thing i can think of that needs to be changed in that department is the fact that the untamed classes ARE gender specific, while no other race classes are.

    as far as classes go themselves, this isn't like a STANDARD rpg game like D&D where we have the need for additional roles, such as the rogue. therefore they aren't added. though if another expansion pack comes out that adds something to require the deffinition of those roles in the game as a base, then i agree with their addition.
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    well this thread was not only created to talk about classes and races, but all features that we would like to see added. For instance new weapon types would be cool, or the ability to sheath your weapon when not in combat. I think that mid-air combat could be improved with special air attacks. well these are just some more of my ideas I'd like to hear other's with something diff to add.
  • Akiriahna - Sanctuary
    Akiriahna - Sanctuary Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    well this thread was not only created to talk about classes and races, but all features that we would like to see added. For instance new weapon types would be cool, or the ability to sheath your weapon when not in combat. I think that mid-air combat could be improved with special air attacks. well these are just some more of my ideas I'd like to hear other's with something diff to add.

    bah. although this forum was created to discuss added features to the game in general. this specific THREAD was added to discuss our opinions on those subjects the creator has listed. b:laugh
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    bah. although this forum was created to discuss added features to the game in general. this specific THREAD was added to discuss our opinions on those subjects the creator has listed. b:laugh

    No way! Its to everybody put theirs toughts of the game, what they think would be good to be added to the game...

    Adn I agree with Thanon... we should have some specifics air movement... Its weird to see ur chara doing the same move on the air as in the ground...
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Yes if you read the tittle of the thread you would know that. Listen I'm not here to argue with ppl about what the thread is about. I'm here just to throw some Ideas out that hopefully the programmers will see and add it to the game. Like more and easier to get mounts would be awsome. There are very few ingame mounts, and the ones that are there are very hard to get. the addition of tag team or squad attacks would make the combat much more interesting. Well thats all I got for now cya all later.
  • alizee7
    alizee7 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Some pretty good suggestions. But you know what would be really really nice? :) If I could keep my halloween outfits..... :(
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Well I'm just here to throw some more ideas out there. so here is a short list of some features I would like to see added to the game.

    the addition of more animals for the Barbs to choose from would be nice. for example(Rhino, Bear, horse, ect.)

    larger variety of monsters would be cool. I'm tired of fighting the same monsters just in different colors.

    new none fb dungeons that you can just explore.

    and last but not least the addition of treasure chests would be outstading. it would acually give you a good reason to explore the world.

    well thats it for now I'll be back with more when I think them up cya.
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    so I thought ok more cool features that I want in PWI.
    Visable headgear and cloaks/capes would be nice. Also the addition of each others custom charas instead of everybody looking the same.
    Well thats it for now please tell me your ideas ppl?
  • evrilysis
    evrilysis Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Stop trying to change the game.

    I swear to God.

    For each downie thread you shitties make, a baby is eaten.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • The ferenczy - Sanctuary
    The ferenczy - Sanctuary Posts: 275 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    the addition of more animals for the Barbs to choose from would be nice. for example(Rhino, Bear, horse, ect.)

    the untaimed barbarians are evolved from predatory anime a rhino or horse marbarian would be lame
    the untaimed venos are from small quick smart predatory animeals again bear horse rhino would not fit
    male and female venos and barbarians would be cool hi I am bromhilda olga's sister i am here to tank for you :) haha cool and definetly male venos would be nice i mean my veno has a nice figure but i try to be a bit more true to my self than changing my gender.

    i love perfect world the only change i would like to see is more quests that have a boss less of those kill 30 mobs
    one day the world will shout to me save us....
    and i will whisper no.
  • Melodia - Lost City
    Melodia - Lost City Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I would like more interesting environment.. Like underwater cities.. or even just ruins of it so you can spend some time just exploring it. And more air cities or ruins or w/e would be cool.. It would make the game much more interesting and making you ask why thats there, etc. Like, I went wild when I saw Heaven's Tear for the first time. Wasn't all I expected.. but was so cool to see from the earth as a new player. I want more of this feeling.

    @Offtopic I wanna be the first to dive in the blood red river in the expansion b:victory
    Originally Posted by Pandora - Lost City:
    Please understand that as full int, all an archer has to do is target you and roll his face on the keyboard and you are dead.

    Words of Wisdom.
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I'm sorry that some of you are content with Good, but I personally like Great.
    I am not trying to change the game I am mearly trying to stir up some ideas that would be cool or just different from other MMOs. If you honestly think I've got bad ideas then please tell me yours. I would love to hear them and then shoot them down like a little kid. Now I agree that more diverse places would be a nice addition and please tell me your ideas. ok well happy gaming unless of course you where banned.
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    Well its simple:

    improve >< change

    Ppl are saying that changing some features will make it harder for the newbies, Well I dont agree, I think that putting some complexity in the game will make it better... PW were funnier when I was on lower lvls, but now its getting bored, All I have to do is kill 50 of the A mob, 75 of the B mob, Colletc 100 drops of the C mob. etc... This isnt fun anymore...

    yeah, Im really tired of killing the same mobs with different names, collors and sizes... I hope more mobs will be added on the expansion...
  • Lordevil - Heavens Tear
    Lordevil - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    ANd I was forgetting to say:

    I really would love to see a female barb, if we can remember in the real life the female of many species r the ones that go for hunt and protection, so why not a woman tanking?
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    I totally agree with you man. Take the amazons for example there are a female warrior race. I think that adding new things to the game can only improve the PWI experience for all.
  • Thanon - Heavens Tear
    Thanon - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited November 2008
    hey everybody I just thought of something I think can really add some intensity to TW.
    I think that Faction alliances would be awsome. Then ppl can make powerful allies and help others with TW and have backup it territory and other guild matters. Well I think this idea is pretty cool please reply with you opinion cya.