Everything must be Untamed??

The venos in the ads were what pulled me into the game

I hate it when people have such horrible sentence structure like the original poster, but here goes.

Tara - Lost City wrote: »

Ok been playing a few weeks now since Open Beta and was in Closed beta my question is why does this game have to be all about Untamed ALL the time

That's very relative. It's how you see it. I don't give a **** if someone is an Untamed, or a Winged Elf, or whatever. I play the game ot have fun. Honestly, why do you care so much?

its like the other two races are in the back seat everyone must be a Veno to get pets or Barb to transform..

And this directly affects you how, exactly?

other classes are basic as compared to the untamed.

Why don't you play one yourself, then?

Sure its a cool race but its like they loved on untamed everything else gets nada..

I actually found most of the things about the untamed really boring.

The Mage classes and Veno are definitely unbalanced in this massive damage

They need massive damage to make up for the fact that most things can pretty much 5-hit them if they get close enough. The damage is just so that they can get their enemies down before, or soon after they are in melee range of the mage.

huge pets

Pet size means nothing LOL.

many drops/loot

No one class gets more loot than another

i'm melee i barely make any money in game i must sell everything to pay for pots and repairs

Why don't you practice a skill, like blacksmithing? If you make good enough items, they'll sell and you wont have any problems.

my veno friend has hundreds of thousands from loot drops and gear me i get nothing drop. Why?

Different circumstances. Do you and your Veno friend do the exact same things? I wouldn't think so. Maybe you're just not int he right area. If your Veno friend is busy doing dungeons while you're still grinding on level 15 mobs, there WILL be a noticeable difference.

Personally think Potions should be lower in price and mats should be sold in merchants please..

Pots should be lower in price, and mats are really hard to find, I agree there

Actually I play an elf cleric which is supposed to be a bit hard but I rather like it? I don't feel it's boring at all or overshadowed in any way by any other class. The quests have also struck me as fine. They never seemed to revolve around any one particular race. I can see what you mean in a way, but in other ways I think my character/race is great to play too. It's a bit of a full attack build though as much as I felt like making it one.. as I'm not really interested in running around in parties all the time healing people. I've been making pretty good money also, especially now that I'm a higher level. Some mobs just drop more cash? Try killing things that drop 100 or more coins per kill? You can make money fast that way if you kill something that is a lower level than you and easy for you. Just kill certain lower level monsters for their cash.. I was killing one every few seconds and made good money that way. The venos are cool though. I was thinking of trying one for my second character later.

I do think elves are a great choice for a first character as they get to fly right away. Venos still have to wait do they not? It's nice to start out flying right away when you're new to the game. But good that different races appeal to different people, right? The game would be boring if everyone enjoyed playing the same race. In a way I can see what you mean, but I don't think it's completely true. I think it's more about what you do with what you're given and how you arrange your stats and skills as well..

Sevendust also has a good point. The animal selections are not very good at all. Especially the boy ones. Wow.. three choices! And they look a bit cartoonish and silly. They need a werewolf that is scary looking for one thing. That would be nice!

Ash - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Venos still have to wait do they not?

That is correct, Untamed and Humans need to wait for level 30 to fly.

I have 2 chars, a bm and veno.

Its easy comparison. Veno spends alot less on potions, I rarely buy any potions with her. And I constantly solo, squading only for those things that must be done with a group. Also since the pet takes the front, the Veno spends alot less on repairs too.

What the Veno has, is less expenses, compared to other classes. I focus on pure magic stat, with a little str for the equips. My mp regens very fast, even during combat, and if I really get too low I can drink some potions as I have been recieving many as drops and haven't needed to use. Heck I even sold the lower quality potions when I started getting alot of better ones. Plus in a short meditation I can recover my mp to full very quickly, but even that I end up rarely needing.

Veno's don't need regular breaks, they keep on fighting and fighting. Thats their biggest advantage, they are the masters of PvE. And to be frank, who cares about PvP?

And yet, even in PvP they can fight. They can't take the damage? They don't have to. They can just run away while their team and pet attack the pursuer. I played GW so I know a thing or two about kiting, and veno's can manage that quite nicely with their Summer Spirit plus manufactured speed orbs and an allied Cleric.

So they can't duel and win, big deal. Duels are just for fun anyway, nothing lost.

The bottom line is, Veno's are way superior in grinding and farming, which is the way the game works, plus they can lure very well. Without a doubt, the masters of PvE. Which is why I made a Veno after I understood how much better they are. With the money I can make with my Veno i'l later support my BM to make her stronger faster. Perfect plan no?

I totally agree on materials being too expensive and too scarce. Thats a major fault that needs fixing.

By the way, about the oversized pets. You know about holding Shift to click on NPC's through players right? Pets count as players, monsters count as NPC's. Get it? Use it b:victory

celticguard wrote: »

Its not just melee chars that can't make money clerics and archer spend more on pots and repairs than buy armor and weapons i have only like 50K and i'm lvl 51 archer most of that money goes on pots or repairs my friend is a lvl 51 cleric and he has the same problem but he needs more pots lol we both find it hard to get money and never have more than 50K

maybe you and your friend can stop between... I don't know, every 2 battles (assuming your killing monsters) and meditate... also, put some money away in your safes... works for me. Most of the pots I use are the ones I find while killing monsters

I don't agree with this topic,
Hardly anything is different. I have a lv. 15 veno and I have been bored out of my wits. I don't get any other amount of money. Last week I went to every starter city and helped noobs with quests. I got no significant difference in price. Lost City is not any more rich than the others (When I mean rich I mean with drops) But I do agree about the potions and materials thing.

Lazyluna - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You can buy baby pets. Truth is, Venos are built to need pets. As for not being able to tame them unless you're a Veno? That's... yet again, what makes a Veno a Veno. That's really all we have going for us.

you can also solo bosses other classes can't kill one on one venos have it easy with the pet like TT a archer,cleric,wizard and blademaster can't kill chitien alone a veno can and they don't need to repair as often or buy as many pots as other races and if they have a overpowered pet they don't even need hp or mp charms to survive