Computer Spec?

kevsn1per
kevsn1per Posts: 5 Arc User
edited October 2008 in General Discussion
Hi everybody

Im gonna play this game with my current comp till about Christmas, when i will get a new one. I'm wondering what kind of CPU, amount of RAM and VCard would make the game run smoothly at max settings. Thanks :D
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  • godcrusher
    godcrusher Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    With my limited knowledge of computers I'll say...

    Regardless of your OS have like 2gb+ RAM
    Core 2 Duo, I think they're all 1.5ghz+
    As for Graphics card... get some nice GeForce.

    Just meet the recommend requirement here:
    Operating System Windows 98/Me/2000/XP
    CPU Intel Pentium4 1.5GHz
    RAM 512MB+
    Hard Disk 3.0G HD space
    Graphic Display 256MB 3D graphics card
  • saruman
    saruman Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    I manage a computer store so I can answer this....

    Godcrusher is right any of those specs can play..... would recommend 1GB of memory minimum though.


    As far as graphics card..... thats based on budget.... best value is ati Radeon 4850...

    best budget card is another story.... if 4850 is out of your price range...... e-mail me and ill offer suggestions.
  • godcrusher
    godcrusher Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Just not an integrated, I'm having hell with mine, usually 1gb is enough but I tend to feel smoother with games and stuff with at least 2gb. Depends on your budget like everything else.
  • ryiah
    ryiah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Meeting the recommend requirements sounds like a nice idea, but you have to remember you won't just have the game running but also the operating system, antivirus, etc. Windows XP really doesn't run great unless you can give it 512MB all to itself and Windows Vista needs about 1GB to itself. People can say it will run with less, but it'll have to use the swap file and your performance will suffer.

    To give a good idea of a level to aim for, I'll give you the specs I play on. Currently I can run the game with 16xQ antialiasing and 16x anistropic filtering.

    Intel Pentium Dual-Core E2140 clocked at 1.6GHz
    4GB DDR2-800
    GeForce 8600GTS 256MB

    May sound impressive, but both the processor and video card are budget items. The 9500GT, which can be bought for about $90 for the better versions, is roughly the same as my card in speed and has twice the video memory. The 9800GT, purchasable for as low as $130 on NewEgg, is considerably more powerful. The memory I managed to catch on sale, but it was also really cheap. In fact it was a bit cheaper than the processor.

    If you're going for a new system, now is a good time to get one for two reasons. First, a new processor series is being released from Intel. This will probably cause the prices on the Core 2 series to drop. Second, the new series will be using DDR3 which should hopefully reduce the prices of DDR2 memory. Thus you should be able to get a decent system for cheap.
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    There is no reason at all to have under 2gb of ram. You can get 2gb of OCZ (lifetime warranty) warrantied to run at around 1100mhz for $35 after rebate at newegg.com.
    Using 2gb up is easy, and if using Vista, 3gb is a reasonable minimum (though you certainly can get by with 2gb in vista 64 - but don't be surprised if the page file gets used once in a while)

    The best budget cpu is probably E8400. It's the cheapest 45nm cpu, 65nm cpus are made of fail.

    Haven't been following video card prices/performance, but 9600GT (slower than 8800GT though) can be had for pretty cheap, though I would highly suggest an ATI card supporting DX10.1 if you want to get a 20% performance boost while using antialiasing in modern games. No nvidia cards support 10.1, and never will. Nvidia cards have a problem with not being able to force AA around half the time, too.
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  • kevsn1per
    kevsn1per Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Ok thanks everyone ^^
  • saruman
    saruman Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Must agree with Kev..... on Vista.

    I notice a huge difference between 2 and 4GB in every game i play.... including Console emulators as far back as SNES..... Huge difference....

    I would say (contrary to Microsoft claim that you can run it having almost no memory) that Vista Premium and above... should have a minimum of 2GB.... Recommended of more.
  • ryiah
    ryiah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Ren wrote:
    Haven't been following video card prices/performance, but 9600GT (slower than 8800GT though) can be had for pretty cheap, though I would highly suggest an ATI card supporting DX10.1 if you want to get a 20% performance boost while using antialiasing in modern games.
    I'm not sure about ATI since I haven't really looked into their cards and probably won't until a decent Linux driver exists, but the 9600GT and 9800GT are so closely priced that I just can't recommend a 9600GT unless you want a card with no fan (since the 9800GT currently doesn't have a variant like that). In fact on NewEgg, the price difference is at most $20 with some of the 9800GTs actually being cheaper.
    Ren wrote:
    No nvidia cards support 10.1, and never will. Nvidia cards have a problem with not being able to force AA around half the time, too.
    Where are you getting this from? NVIDIA's GTX currently offers partial support for DirectX 10.1. I'm not sure about the details because I haven't bothered to read the reference Wikipedia gave. However to state that NVIDIA will never support it, that's just absurd. There is no way they would pass it up. You could state they'll do so because of DirectX 11, but 11 isn't a hardware update - it deals with modifications to how DirectX itself works only (in fact biggest change is that DirectX 11 will try to thread things internally).

    Also the antialiasing problem I gather is a driver issue and not a card issue. For the record, I've got driver version 177.83 and I have no problems forcing AA and AF on the game.
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ryiah wrote: »
    I'm not sure about ATI since I haven't really looked into their cards and probably won't until a decent Linux driver exists, but the 9600GT and 9800GT are so closely priced that I just can't recommend a 9600GT unless you want a card with no fan (since the 9800GT currently doesn't have a variant like that). In fact on NewEgg, the price difference is at most $20 with some of the 9800GTs actually being cheaper.
    Damn, prices sure dropped a lot since I last looked...
    Where are you getting this from? NVIDIA's GTX currently offers partial support for DirectX 10.1. I'm not sure about the details because I haven't bothered to read the reference Wikipedia gave. However to state that NVIDIA will never support it, that's just absurd. There is no way they would pass it up. You could state they'll do so because of DirectX 11, but 11 isn't a hardware update - it deals with modifications to how DirectX itself works only (in fact biggest change is that DirectX 11 will try to thread things internally).
    NVIDIA has not yet announced a hardware to fully support Direct3D 10.1. But they have said they will support Direct3D 10.1 features that developers request on their existing hardware through extensions.

    Direct3D 10.1 features bigger control over antialiasing (both multisampling and supersampling with per sample shading and application control over sample position), more flexibilities to some of the existing features (cubemap arrays, independent blending modes). Direct3D 10.1 hardware must support the following features:

    * Mandatory 32-bit floating point filtering.
    * Mandatory support for 4x anti-aliasing
    * Shader model 4.1
    Supposedly nvidia will have a DX10.1 card out in 2009, but 10.1 is basically just an extension of 10 with stricter hardware specs.
    Also the antialiasing problem I gather is a driver issue and not a card issue. For the record, I've got driver version 177.83 and I have no problems forcing AA and AF on the game.

    Obviously it's a driver problem, and it's completely random. A guy with same card and drivers as another may have the bug while the other doesn't.
    I fixed my AA bug with xtreme-g's drivers.

    I'm pretty pissed off because drivers (esp linux) are why I went with nvidia, yet I had no clue that their new drivers suck so terrible.
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  • baifang
    baifang Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    kevsn1per, did you get the answers you needed, or are you still a bit unsure?

    It might help also to post your current setup, as well as a budget range mate.
    kevsn1per wrote: »
    Hi everybody

    Im gonna play this game with my current comp till about Christmas, when i will get a new one. I'm wondering what kind of CPU, amount of RAM and VCard would make the game run smoothly at max settings. Thanks :D
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  • ryiah
    ryiah Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    ren wrote: »
    Obviously it's a driver problem, and it's completely random. A guy with same card and drivers as another may have the bug while the other doesn't.
    I fixed my AA bug with xtreme-g's drivers.

    I'm pretty pissed off because drivers (esp linux) are why I went with nvidia, yet I had no clue that their new drivers suck so terrible.
    Funny. I've never had an issue with their drivers. Even times when I've thought it was a driver issue it turned out to be something else causing an issue (usually whenever I have BSOD I keep thinking NVIDIA is at fault).

    I even upgraded to Windows XP Pro 64-bit edition yesterday and NVIDIA's 64-bit driver antialiases just fine for me.
  • ren
    ren Posts: 662 Arc User
    edited August 2008
    Consider yourself lucky then. A quick google search gave me a lot of results of people with the problem, mainly 8 series users.

    I could antialias fine when I was using XP32, but the problem doesn't seem limited to any specific windows version.
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  • stevensl2
    stevensl2 Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    well obviously you gunna have to pay more if u wanna play this game at like.. the max settings, if u just want to play the game, u dont need much.
    unlike me (i always max out game settings XD )
    my specs are a bit.. on the more expensive side ( around 1000 if u dont include unnecessary parts

    Asus M3A motherboard - 100$
    Phenom x4 9550 (quad) - 190$
    Xfx 8800GT 512mb - 200$
    4x1gb RAM 4gb total 800mhz ( remember, 2 gb of quality ram is better than 4 gb of cheap ones ) 100$

    Cooling - 100$ ( i overclock )

    and the rest are not important for this game - case, PSU, soundcard etc
    one more thing, im running on Vista 32bit. xp will be much smoother in this case
  • stevensl2
    stevensl2 Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited September 2008
    ren wrote: »
    There is no reason at all to have under 2gb of ram. You can get 2gb of OCZ (lifetime warranty) warrantied to run at around 1100mhz for $35 after rebate at newegg.com.
    Using 2gb up is easy, and if using Vista, 3gb is a reasonable minimum (though you certainly can get by with 2gb in vista 64 - but don't be surprised if the page file gets used once in a while)

    The best budget cpu is probably E8400. It's the cheapest 45nm cpu, 65nm cpus are made of fail.

    Haven't been following video card prices/performance, but 9600GT (slower than 8800GT though) can be had for pretty cheap, though I would highly suggest an ATI card supporting DX10.1 if you want to get a 20% performance boost while using antialiasing in modern games. No nvidia cards support 10.1, and never will. Nvidia cards have a problem with not being able to force AA around half the time, too.

    BTW whats wrong with 65nm cpu's huh?
  • Backfromhell - Lost City
    Backfromhell - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Lol mines old:
    Windows XP
    Intel Celeron 2.8Ghz
    1GB Ram (400Mhz DDR1)
    nVIdia GeForce 5200 FX (256mb)
    Hard Drive : Internal 80GB
    External 160GB
    b:sad
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  • gattsuru
    gattsuru Posts: 3,184 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    BTW whats wrong with 65nm cpu's huh?

    The larger the fabrication process, the lower the performance at a given wattage, and the larger the polysilica sheet required for the fabrication process. The reasons are rather complicated from the 65nm to 45nm processes, but they do exist and are fairly well-documented. Given the minimal price difference, 45nm-based processors are highly recommended for users sensitive to heat or noise, or who plan to overclock.

    For other users the benefit is minor, however -- most games simply do not bottleneck at the processor.
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  • endo602
    endo602 Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    With my system as posted below, I only get 16fps on max settings at a resolution of 1366x768 (my 32in lcd max res). With everything turned down half way I only get 30fps. Its not a kick **** system but I thought I would get more out of this game seeing how EQ2 runs at a higher fps than PW.

    AMD Athlon X2 4400+
    4GB ddr2-800 corsair performance memory
    8600GT 512MB
  • Baalzor - Heavens Tear
    Baalzor - Heavens Tear Posts: 272 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Presario 900 Compaq
    : )))))))))))))))))))))
    224ram
    1500+
    sum random **** gfx with 32mb...
    http:// fr.xfire.com/video/36f4d6/
    RUBBERBAND \o/
  • hesh
    hesh Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    My current system didnt cost me much. It would also be alot cheaper now than when I bought it.

    Asus P5LD2 Mobo
    Core 2 Duo 2.5ghtz
    2gb Corsair gaming ram
    BFG Tech 8600GT OC2 (Core clocked 620 from 540 standard)
    Whole system runs at 1088fsb.

    I'm able to run on full graphics without a hitch, with the exception of Arch West District. At todays prices, that would probably fall somewhere in the 300-500 Dollar range.

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