Concerns About Cash Shop Pricing

I do not exactly know the use of buying whatever it is that is needed (or preffered) to buy (new to the f2p scene) but I have noticed some interesting things on this thread.

First off, someone quitting the game before they even start because of a thread is fine. You shouldn't go bashing them because of it. People are going to rely on the forums to find out information about the game and if there is an extremely popular thread (like this one with 70+ pages of responses within 3days) might be enough to push people away.

Secondly, it never ceases to amaze me that players gripe about things on release without giving off a notion that every game is bumpy on release. Its the market standard. No game that i can think of (p2p at least) has ever had that perfect launch i.e class balance, content filled, server bugs, quest bugs, ability bugs, item/equipment bugs etc...

Thirdly, it is really the fault of the American society if prices are more expensive. We spend spend spend on what entertains us and not what is needed. we aren't really the money saving type or really starving if we are playing games and can afford that PC to utilize them. Yes you can go play another version if you so choose to, but I for one do not understand their language. That would make for a language barrier, but if you do understand it then go play that version.

I can say this is my first F2P game and I feel like i am back in UO once again, Finally. I am at so much ease with the mechanics and i am having too much fun atm.

So, back on topic...Once i know more about this buying things with real money for in game advantage I may have more insight. But, if its all wardrobe and that extra 5% run speed...meh i can do without it even if it was extremely cheap.

Poison - Heavens Tear wrote: »

PWI is the second of 3 English Perfect World versions. Everyone is talking about the other English versions.

You forgot PW-Philippines... (PW-PH)

AFAIK... PW-PH is the first english version of the game.

PW-PH was on Open Beta way before PW-MY opened for its Close Beta testing.

Sadly, it implemented IP Block when it launch OB.

If you think PW-MY CS items are cheap, PW-PH are way cheaper...

(e.g. A lvl 40 leopard mount under $3 :eek: )

How come a company operating on such measly prices can still operate and maintain

the game?

hestral wrote: »

I do not exactly know the use of buying whatever it is that is needed (or preffered) to buy (new to the f2p scene)

You're right, you don't know, so you're in a poor position to be telling people who is worth berating and who is not.

As for the faults of the "American Society", Americans pay more money in aid to the rest of teh world than the rest of the world combined.

The "fault" for pricing, if there is any, is the company charging the prices. That said, even they aren't at fault. They have a right to charge whatever they want, if we don't like it, we can leave.

I disagree with the pricing structure, but I defend their right to charge it if they so choose since they will have to deal with the ramifications of this choice.

I don't know if you are, or are not an American.. I don't really care. Youa re entitled to your opinion, and if that opinion is ignorant and misguided it has nothing to do with your nationality.

It has been said many times in this thread and i can appreciate that its a lot to read through it all.
Its not about dropping prices to gain some uber advantages its about paying $2.50 for a charm(which IS needed at later levels)which only last a little over an hour when doing a zhen party.
You have to be rich to justify paying $2.50 per hour to play a F2P game...
This sale is great and im sure it has brought much needed revenue..but it ends soon..then what?
Already a hell of a lot of friends from MY server have quit,because they know that gold charms and exp scrolls are going to be beyond there financial budgets(when there introduced)
And still no official response after 3 weeks...tut tut tut

I firmly state, if Heirogram prices raise above 1.50, I will quit.

As will many other people. You won't make any money with no players, please notice a mistake before you make one.

jaide wrote: »

anyone know when all the fashion items will be released for the cash shop?

They tend to release them a small amount at a time to increase their profits. If they released them all now then people would just buy their favorites and be done with it. this way people get bored with waiting and "settle" for whats in the cash shop now and buy it. Then when new fashion is released they buy the new fashion too, rince lather and repeat.

PW MY will have been open for 1 year in November and their cash shop doesnt even have half the total fashions in it yet. So if they are going to run their cash shop the same here with releasing new items look to be waiting over a year to 2 years to get ALL the fashions in the shop.

Kudos on making more an effort and at least lowering some prices on fashions.

However I think you guys are still NOT listening to the whole picture. The entire cash shop/Zen is overpriced. Lowering the prices on a few items in one catagory doesnt solve the problem. Mounts, Charms, Flyers, and other things important to gameplay are still massively overpriced compared to the cost of Zen.

The whole cash shop, Zen prices need to be redone. Not just 1 catagory in the cash shop.

Next week Charms go back off of sale, the main staple we need reduced in price permenantly! This still isnt cutting it for me.

Twilyte - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Personally, I do spend some of my "hard earned money" on the game. But, because I earned it, I have the right to say whether I am "wasting" or not. I am the father of a family of four, and to take my family out to a new release movie on the weekend will cost me nearly $60 betwen tickets and concessions. What do I get from that? Two hours of "entertainment" and some very unhealthy food.
Or, I can spend that $60 in here, and get far more than 2 hours of entertainment. I could buy 4 panthers for less than that and my whole family can run around from place to place, saving tons in teleport fees.

Let me get this straight: you want to spend the money on game instead on the family? ANY outdoor family activity, well, any baord game playing together, is better than family playing online game, everybody at their computer and looking in monitor for hours.

This kind of behaviour is epic fail for me.

Cat - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Kudos on making more an effort and at least lowering some prices on fashions.

However I think you guys are still NOT listening to the whole picture. The entire cash shop/Zen is overpriced. Lowering the prices on a few items in one catagory doesnt solve the problem. Mounts, Charms, Flyers, and other things important to gameplay are still massively overpriced compared to the cost of Zen.

The whole cash shop, Zen prices need to be redone. Not just 1 catagory in the cash shop.

Next week Charms go back off of sale, the main staple we need reduced in price permenantly! This still isnt cutting it for me.

Please keep in mind that the GMs are not the one calling the shots, but probly some number crunchers in a office that probly never even played an mmo.

Short story:
We are pissed off
We post
GMs report our displeasure
The accountants say "ignore em"
We post more
GMs press the issue
Accountants relize they got no money coming in
They lower a few items to see if people will buy and if its enough for them to profit.

In other words, they need to see what prices on what items will make the most profit.
Its not much at this time but its something.

hey im a new player here in the international PW but im from
India and here 20$ is MORE than a whole month unlimited net connection .
and i or many other indians on this server cannot afford any of the cash shop items and are deeply hurt as we all love the game and would like PW officials to try and understand the feel of discrimination as human beings and a senseof affordability:(

I think they're making an effort to make us happy. Thanks PWI. Maybe it's not what everyone wants, but to be honest, no matter what you give people... they general will always want more.

Yes, the prices are higher than PW-MY, but they're not running this out of MY, nor Philippines, nor any of the other cheaper server countries. The minimim wage there is ridiculously less and so is the average yearly income. It's amazing how so many people complain about jobs going overseas and then turn around and complain because they have to pay more $ to actually support a staff that isn't making chinese factory worker or indian call center wages.

Maybe you don't make a lot and your getting $8, $10, or $12 an hour. But people in Malaysia are making fractions of that. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=malaysian+minimum+wage&aq=f&oq= take a look sometime.

Infact, truth be told, I don't think it's fair to MY that we could just come in and buy cash item shops like water. Maybe be a bit more frugal w/ your purchases? Just because you need heiros for some things, doesn't mean you can't possiblity do anything without them. Grinding takes a hell of a lot longer, but most of the fun of being high lvl is getting there.

And personaly, I am always willing to pay a little extra to support American staff. Yes our economy isn't doing so hot anymore, but maybe we're all making less money because not enough people are willing to do that. You get what you pay for.

Oh and as for the low employment rate thing... If you're unemployed and can't find a job. Seriously, don't spend all day playing this game. Please keep looking for work.

the mats are so expensive! :eek:

if you love TW, and want TW every week.. you need to buy charms on every TW.. every week..

if you love to craft items.. and thats the only way to get the best item.. you need lots of mats from item mall, you cannot dig for a 500pcs mats..

at lvl 70, you need almost 200k coins just for the daily quest alone.. how about the expensive pots??

now they put another item for us to really buy, waahh.. a experience scroll?? now we really need to buy that because of the 50% exp.. or else, its like nothing if you grind..


can you just take off that experience scroll and lower the price of mats and make the charms permanently cheap.. please..

Deirdrea - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Can't farm 500 pieces? Watch me.

Ill watch you do it the first or second time.

But by the time your high lvl and you spend everyday doing nothing but farming, and realize you dont get to "play" anymore because your online time consists of nothing else but trying to grind or farm the item you need to move forward because you cant get it out of the cash shop, Ill watch you move on to another game.

I have said it over and over. Its possible to do it without the cash shop. However its very hard and you spend more of your time on game "working" than you do "playing" just to get the things you need to "play". Thats when the game becomes no fun. If its no fun there is no point in playing.

here's my beef dears. I have paid the normal price for the following items...

Star Crossed Love, Seaspray Slacks, Wingspan Heels

So, who do I see about getting my Zen back... Understand I do have some luxury to afford some things, not all mind you, but when you start mucking around with my money, dears, you will make me and others upset. Either stick to your guns, or make reperations to those that have paid the higher price.